Recent posts by Zzzip50 on Kongregate

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Topic: Forum Games / Mafia (dead thread)

oh i was actually a mafia

i dont know how i got into that heated argument and contrary to what i said arguing isnt really my usual disposition but i started so i just went along with it

but then it got uncomfortable talking like that and then i had to go back and get all the posts and bs it all and i didnt feel like it

so yeah i went bye bye

i didnt want to kill death at night tho

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Mafia (dead thread)

Ok, you don’t have to remember anything. I’ll just go back and pull out all the posts. But I don’t have time for that right now so until then…school.

I was thinking of removing my vote on you but you seem to try to get my words out of context and even make up some things.

You don’t have to unvote me. I’m very curious as to what would have convinced you to remove your vote on me anyways. Please elaborate.

As for mixing up whatever, I am perfectly certain about everything I’ve said and when I come back from school I will pull out the posts. You can discuss your “true intentions” or whatev you want then.

I won’t remove that vote on you until the end of day 1, unless necessary, and you better believe me.

Man, I believed you would vote me until the end of this Day from the start ok?

The reason for this is that you are lying and falsifying my posts and you do this not to defend yourself but instead to make me look scummy.

On the contrary I think YOU are lying.

I’m not defending myself in this post.

In this post I am the instigator, and I feel that I should call you out when you said:

Nobody here is trying to push a lynch.

Which I feel is a blatant lie.

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Mafia (dead thread)

Wait when did I say that? You are making things out that I didn’t say. You should stop with your attempts to read through the lines of one’s posts because it’s not working.

1. You have never denied that you want to lynch me
2. When you were told the better strategy, to use voting as pressure, you went against it and told me that lynching would give us my role, and this is the motivation behind your lynch.
3. You also told me that you wanted to lynch me to get me off of the game.
4. You said that by removing me from the game, I would also lessen the pool of suspicious players.
5. Even before you voted me, you were pushing to remove one of the “trolls”

Theres probably more if you want me to get more quotes and analyze your posts.

Seriously, you started off, and in the middle of the argument, typing every post saying you wanted to get me lynched/defending yourself from me accusing you wanting to get me lynched by displaying the “benefits” of it. Only towards the end did you do a complete 180 heel face turn and started saying you were pressuring me all along.

Yeah right.

So not only I shouldn’t attack you but I should start explaining every thought that I have to you? From where can you be sure in anything?

I’m not totally clear on exactly what this statement is referring to?

You were useless and you still are. You are equal to scum if you aren’t one. I don’t see anything useful you said expect like walls of defense which got us nowhere.

To sum up you can stop with this. You aren’t making yourself look clear, just the opposite. You aren’t making the players here feel that you are town, you are just annoying them.

Whatever you say bro.

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Mafia (dead thread)

Originally posted by Deathstinger534:

Nobody here is trying to push a lynch. I don’t know for Helltank but I do it of the simplest to put pressure on Zzz. By putting pressure on someone is the best way to get information about a player and as you see the player we know the most now is Zzzip.

You know, this is a very big thorn in my side because I do not know exactly what am I defending myself from, you and death. What is this “thing” I am being accused of? I struggle to find out this “thing” that is making me look like mafia! What is this “thing” can someone please explain?

Are we going to go with this again? The thing I don’t like in your defense is that you just miss out the things that you don’t like in the posts against you. I think I have said enough about you for now, just go back and read my posts concerning you.

Also I agree with Hell that myhome is just trying so hard to buddy with Zzzip. First myhome was Zzzip’s trolling buddy now he is just supporting Zzzip with everything he can. That’s why I find something off in myhome’s play. I also don’t know how you find me “misguided” myhome and personally I didn’t agree with anything you wrote. Still everybody has an opinion and you expressed yours.

No I don’t want your explanation (not like you gave one), I want Helltank’s explanation, or someone else that accuses me.

Nobody here is trying to push a lynch

This is a blatant lie. I accused you of trying to push a lynch, andyou defended yourself that pushing for a quick lynch now is a good decision and that it will give us precious role info.

You wanted to lynch a troll in the beginning.
You wanted to lynch me, which you never denied, but rather championed as a way to get info (despite never responding to my argument that since I am not yet involved with anyone, lynching me does absolutely nothing)

Some quotes:

“I don’t see any reason for not lynching you”
“I like lynches because they give us the most precious information, the role”
“I said why I’m going with your lynch”
" Also you really don’t get why lynch is the best mean to get information, do you? As I said it doesn’t only reveal it role, it narrows down the number of suspicious players by eliminating useless/lurking/TROLLING players"

None of your posts in that argument even hints that you are voting me to put pressure on me, instead of being eager to lynch me.

Instead, EVERY one of your posts seem to WANT to lynch me immediately. You seem to WANT to lynch me in order to discover my role and/or remove me from the pool of suspicious people, not pressure me into further questioning in order to obtain an idea of my role , which I said would be the superior strategy.

Originally posted by Helltank:

My argument is this:

Zzzip is trying to impede town’s progress by spacefilling with random bullshit, like fluff or vague answers that mean nothing, as well as trying to drag Deathstinger into a heated emotional argument where no progress towards finding the mafia will be made.

If you can pls see, I did not initiate this argument, I was joking until I realized that wamp, Lebossle, and death were all voting me. At that point I decided to defend myself against the only one that was sincerely making a point that I am mafia.

As I said before, I am not spacefilling, if someone drags me into an argument I argue until something blows up. You know this trait from me since I came on FGF.

I’m not really sure how defending myself can be interpreted as “trying to drag deathstinger into a heated emotional argument.”

Originally posted by walfordking:

Ok, Myhome has been siding with Zzzip a lot. Zzzip has been through the mill with all this grilling and fair play to him, he has put up a fight.

With Occooa’s statement, read page 6 again. You will find your answer there, Occooa.

I would find this buddying strange except for one thing: I agree with everything he says.

As such, there is a difference between trying to flip up bullshit in order to defend someone in the face of undeniable or extremely likely evidence and speaking rationality.

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Role Swap, the psychology! Round 2, Phase 2

Originally posted by Sabin7:

Single male Trumpeter, seeking names of warriors.
Will give reward.

www.edatetrumpeter.com

Find your match!

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Mafia (dead thread)

We are bandwagoning you because you clearly can contribute to town and alarmingly have not done so- is this a sign you’re trying to stall the town’s progress?

Or because I was overly happy prior to being voted by Death? I did state so after my apology to Lebossle.

People usually drop any bullshit personas they might be holding up when placed under pressure. At this moment you seem very desperate to avoid getting wagoned, which would be a standard response regardless of alignment. I’m treating this as a nulltell.

Ok theres nothing for me to comment on.

… to place you under pressure and obtain information.

Ok what information do you want to get out of me.

Lebossle wasnt pressuring.

Wamp I think was because…of mi nubspeek…?

Death on the other hand states he wants to get me lynched. Not obtain information. Ive accused him of trying to quickhammer me on many occasions for my role. Which he never denied, but rather championed it.

You I think are legit trying to pressure me. This is one of the reasons I listed you as least suspicious.

My impression of Zzzip is that he’s trying to appear as an indignant townie. He is not playing according to meta. He is impeding town’s progress by spacefilling with discussion blockers like accusing Deathstinger(who I have townreads on) of being irrational and mindlessly bandwagoning him. He appears desperate. However, there are some points in his favor. He appears calm and rational after the trolling section at the beginning of the game and does not display any obvious scumtells.

I believed havent played mafia in over half a year, if not A year. Metas arent stable and carved into rock. Maybe I am more outspoken and loud, maybe so. But I don’t understand the rationale of using a meta from a mafia player that hasn’t played one seriously for a long time.

Also seriously I am not spacefilling. If someone drags me into an argument I go all the darn way until something blows up.

Ok, so I am rational. I give good points. I am not displaying scumtells that you are picking up. Whatever these “nonobvious” scumtells are please reveal to the town.

Yet I am still appearing “shady.”

You know, this is a very big thorn in my side because I do not know exactly what am I defending myself from, you and death. What is this “thing” I am being accused of? I struggle to find out this “thing” that is making me look like mafia! What is this “thing” can someone please explain?

EBWOP: He appears to be defending me as the least suspicious player, despite the fact that I’m voting him. I’m not sure what to make of this. Opinions?

Despite you voting me my rationale and instincts tell me that you are earnestly trying to hunt down the mafia, such as with your pressuring and early day involvement with the questionaires. I get a slightly more townish feel than Death, which I get mixed tells, some scummy some town.

Originally posted by Deathstinger534:

Thenewwampkid I still don’t get the moves you do. First of all you say I’m the most suspicious player to you and then you vote Zz. I ask you this for the second and I hope last time.

EBWOP: He appears to be defending me as the least suspicious player, despite the fact that I’m voting him. I’m not sure what to make of this. Opinions?

Well I don’t make anything of that. It can mean everything but IF it has to mean something then he is most probably trying to buddy with you ( not necessary in a scum way) or just doesn’t want to oppose you.

Or I can just be speaking my mind.

Originally posted by Sabin7:

[Accusations]
Honestly, it’s day 1, and day 1 there is nothing to really base accusations on.

HOWEVER, Zip really seems like a townie to me. Just one that’s doing a good job of convincing people otherwise.

In short Im a terrible townie qq

But I want to hear your reasons why you think I’m townie, because it contradicts with the general populace, which I have yet to hear their reasons from.


I’m not going to comment on myhome’s responses because they are basically a few levels upgrade of my answers, it more clear.

Originally posted by Helltank:

Please address my argument. It’s a crucial part of showing that Zzzip’s defense of himself is flawed.

Furthermore, why do you not think that this is a good case for lynching someone for information?

What argument is this, if I can respond I will as well.

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Mafia (dead thread)

I don’t usually be an ass, but when I do, I go all the way D;

Originally posted by walfordking:

Zzzip’s playing like I use to play. Like a total ass. I use to play like a total ass, but now I’m playing a game properly.

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Mafia (dead thread)

Let me start off by answering the questionnaires:

1. Who do you find most suspicious?

Sebba/Sabin. While I also find Walfordking’s comment possible to either hope someone would start a wagon on the inactives, or if he had a buddy who would do so. This came true through Sabin basing his reason on Walfordking’s comment, with sebba mindlessly bandwagoning behind him. I know Sabin long enough, and I dont recall him doing this. While the reasoning is ok, I find myself at unrest with how easy mafia can get a kill this way.

In addition I’m getting mixed tells from Death. I don’t agree with his arguments, I find that they can be used as an easy excuse to kill people (me) but I do feel certain townie vibes so I am at a mildly mafia stance.

2. Who do you find least suspicious, apart from yourself?

Helltank, for actively participating in initiating discussions.

3. What do you think of the quick bandwagon on Lebossle on D1?

No comment.

4. What do you think of sebba’s sketchy questionnaire?

Didnt think it was sketchy

5. What do you think of Zzzip and myhome’s behavior so far?

No comment

6. What do you think of Lebossle’s behavior so far?

I think Lebossle atm is slightly town due to his contribution at the beginning of the game.

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Mafia (dead thread)

Originally posted by Deathstinger534:

Suspicious players are all who don’t help town – lurkers, trolls etc. and this includes you. You are useless, that helps only the mafia and thus you are suspicious. That’s thesimplest way I can say it.
Yes you did try to counter my arguments but you failed. No need to explain, go back and read your recent posts.
I also don’t like the way your using your trolling attitude as an exuse. Trolling is something that makes you look mafia, not town. Just thought I should make it clear for you.

I’m not trolling anymore, am I? Didn’t that end a long time ago? I’m trying to play this game seriously now aren’t I? Now would you please let me off the hook?

Yes you did try to counter my arguments but you failed. No need to explain, go back and read your recent posts.

Whatever you say sir.

I also don’t like the way your using your trolling attitude as an exuse. Trolling is something that makes you look mafia, not town. Just thought I should make it clear for you.

Excuse for what? For not helping? I just finished with my trolling after Lis’ vote on me. Now if you would please give me time besides defending myself, I will help ok?

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Mafia (dead thread)

Originally posted by Deathstinger534:

Lol so first of all why do you want me to quit this game? You are saying I should put up with your childish attitude but I think you just want me out of this game because I’m causing you trouble. Also you really don’t get why lynch is the best mean to get information, do you? As I said it doesn’t only reveal it role, it narrows down the number of suspicious players by eliminating useless/lurking/TROLLING players. As I said I don’t only vote you because you troll, I vote you because your useless. You haven’t said anything useful, you only tried to defend yourself, and even this you did bad. You failed to counter any of my claims and you failed with your whole defense. With all this screaming posts you are just showing us you’r overacting. Also you can vote me if you want. I won’t consider it a serious vote after all, you are just being angry at me.

Lol so first of all why do you want me to quit this game?

Was referring to me.

Also you really don’t get why lynch is the best mean to get information, do you? As I said it doesn’t only reveal it role, it narrows down the number of suspicious players by eliminating useless/lurking/TROLLING players.

Yeah, while a superior strategy would be to find the suspicious people instead of killing all the insignificants while the real mafia gets a free ride.

Are you also admitting im not actually who you suspect? Just a troll? Freudian slip pls?

As I said I don’t only vote you because you troll, I vote you because your useless.

This is not sufficient grounds for voting someone.

You haven’t said anything useful, you only tried to defend yourself, and even this you did bad.

Really? I’m struggling to see where you made it past my defence.

You failed to counter any of my claims and you failed with your whole defense.

Elaborate, because I’m pretty sure I countered ALL your claims.

With all this screaming posts you are just showing us you’r overacting. Also you can vote me if you want. I won’t consider it a serious vote after all, you are just being angry at me.

Dude you are hanging on my annoyed tone way too much and ignoring everything else I say. You basically admitted it yourself: “As I said I don’t only vote you because you troll, I vote you because your useless.”

This is in no way a reason to vote someone. This would only help mafia instead, as they would gain a free kill. What you should be doing is questioning people and gaining info, instead of killing insignificant players.

 
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Topic: Forum Games / [Game-Related] Official Board Game Online Masterthread

unrelated game

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Mafia (dead thread)

My attitude? Oh first it was my trolling, now its my attitude. Maybe you should, idk, push for a mod replacement instead of a lynch. Overreacting? I have a right to demand legitimate reasons when Im being bandwagoned by three people. And I will be abrupt if I dont get my reasons. Dont like my abruptness? Too bad, not grounds for being a mafia!

The role is the most precious info? Of course! But you dont go killing around everyone for no reason until you hit the mafias. See if this makes sense: Hey whos the cop? I know, lets lynch until we get 100% confirmation by the host!

And what are you going to do with the role? Are you going to use process of elimination from that open setup which does not exist? Or what? What happens if you hit a townie? Two free mafia kills? But hey, at least you know the guys’ role was Odd Night Doctor. Who gives a heck?

Pretending like nothing happened? Of course nothing happened! What is this “thing” that happened?

Why you are going with your lynch? You said it very clearly: “I see no reason not to lynch you” on your previous post.

What kind of reason is that?

Escape pressure? Im under pressure alright. Ive said it already, im being bandwagoned by three people, and im defending myself.

Overreacting, attitude, switch of moods? Maybe you should call for a mod replacement instead or get used to me. I get abrupt when I have to deal with this bs.

Even scummier than I thought? Why? Absolutely no reasoninghere.

Give you the same info? I didnt consider this possibility because its even more retarded! Consider me merciful for not bringing this up!

Maybe it would be useful if my death actually implicated people which I had interacted with! Other than just having two random townies die, and end up on Day 2 with absolutely no progress.

After such a long discussion all the reasoning I see fromyou are:

Hes trolling!
Hes being rude );!
Hes overreacting when hes on the verge of death Must be that hes scum!
If we kill him maybe we can find out his role ;)!

Your voting me on these premises. Seriously guys give me a break. Does anyone think this rapid and persistent push for a lynch on these grounds are enough for me to vote this guy?

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Mafia (dead thread)

Change of moods means youve got something to hide

Or it could mean that im annoyed at this badnwagon. But of course lets pull out the trite HES HIDING SOMETHING LYNCHLYNCHLYNCH.

I also dont see a difference between a trolling and a non-trolling player

Then your just retarded.

Either lynches will provide us the same amount of info

Unless people are just mindlessly bandwagoning and voting without discussion of course!

I find the main point behind your post to be missing

How obscure can it be! Im accusing you of having a false and run of the mill reason as an excuse to vote me!

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Mafia (dead thread)

Ebwop: I was stuck on the 5th page didnt notice the 6th. Woops.

Why so serious now? You gotta be kidding me. Ive got like a mindless bandwagon of three based on nothing trying to get me killed.

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Mafia (dead thread)

No your wrong. Lynching does not provide information, questioning does. While lynching does prompt questioning, the two are not equivalent. Have you tried to have a discussion with me? Have you tried to find out any information from me? Does a quick wagon on me without discussion provide information. You say yes…but can anyone else say the opposite. I dare say I can.

I wonder if you are blind if you do not also see the updated post. Or are you still clutching at my troll post?

Im not being a troll anymore, what are the grounds for your bandwagon?

I dont understand why you are persistant with keeping my vote. Seriously, “until you convince me otherwise” is a really lame reason. Are you hoping to get me quickhammered?

 
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Topic: Forum Games / General Thread

I use google docs

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Mafia (dead thread)

Here let me do something simple real quick to destroy some reasoning on me.

Ok so you oppose no lynch on the grounds that it provides time to mafia and no info to town.

BUT, you also prefer an abrupt lynch of a troll. But this in addition provides no help to town and provides time to mafia, which is what you detest.

Contradiction?

This is clearly no better than the piig vote, the no lynch, or my troll vote that i forgot to remove, and is in no way justified.

Unvote:Lebossle

Please explain your intentions and justification as well as your contradiction.

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Mafia (dead thread)

No srsly, what is this.

Originally posted by thenewampkit:
or my troll vote that i forgot to remove

Don’t think so.

why dont we lynch you, you 8 post noob


Overeager for lynch?


Also, annoying writing way. Putting pressure on ya.


Vote:Zzzip50

Do you seriously think im hoping for a quickhammer on lebossle. I provide no reasoning, my posts were completely retarded, only 1 person jokewagoned with me, and to top it off he unvoted. Why the fuq would I still purposely maintain my vote on Lebossle actually hoping for a hammer?

Also have you actually seen a day 1 joke hammer lynch strategy be actually successful? In all the mafias ive played, ive seen prob only one, and thats with my mafia, where it was an entirely retarded theme.

Seriously, this is a run of the mill excuse you are masquerading as a reason to vote me while you know that there is no reason to vote me at all. Perhaps you just find me annoying. If i stop being stupid, where are your grounds to vote me anymore?

Lynch eager? Waht? Im questioning this guy, albeit in a carefree way, about his intention. Im not voting him. Im not FOSing him. Im not even POSing him!

Whos overeager? If anyone is overeager its you, you hypocrite, and not just to vote me, but bandwagon that other guy’s makeshift reasons. Do you really think this guy’s reasons are viable to make me a mafia member?

Put pressure on me? For what? Seriously what am I doing thats suspicious?

And dont even think about me trying to get lebossle quickhammered. Thats insanely retarded and you know it.

Originally posted by myhome16:

why dont we lynch you, you 8 post noob

A bit on the extreme side.

Its a joke goddamn it.

Originally posted by Helltank:

vote:Zzzip
What’s up with acting like retards in mafias then using it as an excuse for not contributing to town?

Using it as an excuse? What is this? What are you…? What is this i dont even

Oh and of course vote lol.

Goddamn it guys at least base your no substance bandwagon on something.

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Mafia (dead thread)

Originally posted by Deathstinger534:

Well I don’t like the no lynch idea. Every lynch gives us more information and narrows down the number of players who can be mafia. By no lynching we only help the mafia because we give them more room to expand their deceptions. That’s why Im willing to lynch one of the trolls. By trolling they don’t help the town, just the opposite and thus that makes them useless.

ok so you oppose no lynch on the grounds that it provides time to mafia and no info to town

ok so you prefer an abrupt lynch of a troll on the grounds that it provides time to mafia and no info to town

w0t

this is clearly no better than the piig vote, the no lynch, or my troll vote that i forgot to remove

Unvote:Lebossle

why dont we lynch you, you 8 post noob

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Seriously.

I really dont mind Continuous games, I just think it should be heavily restricted for approvals so that only good ones, and rarely, are they made.

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Role Swap, the psychology! Round 2, Phase 2

Originally posted by T1M3_15_1337:
Originally posted by Zzzip50:
Originally posted by myhome16:

Time, Did less than 3 people put Helltank on their list, or did he die from being on the policeman’s list?

Both

This also, i need to do some last tweaking so next round starts tomorrow morning, sorry for the delay.

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Role Swap, the psychology! Round 2, Phase 2

Originally posted by myhome16:

Time, Did less than 3 people put Helltank on their list, or did he die from being on the policeman’s list?

Both

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Mafia (dead thread)

Originally posted by Lebossle:

Vote: Zzzip
I always try to not vote people due to their metas, but you’re getting WAY TOO ANNOYING. Also, read the rules. (Man, it’s really hard to avoid feeding trolls if they are playing a mafia with you!)

;.;

im so sry im on a streak of happy

forgive me pls

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Last 3 Letters into 3 New Words

ASTROLOGY NULLIFIES TESTOSTERONE

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Corrupt-a-Wish

First post addresses ganthro, the second is for abraaz.