Recent posts by stealthsilent on Kongregate

Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / Proof that god is fake

Don’t judge me, it hurts. I’m trying to tell you something that I know in good faith and you brush it off to the side, I’m trying to help you. Don’t put me off to the side as being some ignorant unreasonable person, people have feelings, and those feelings get hurt a lot. And you have no right to judge me, I have feelings, I need respect just like anyone else. Sooner or later you will come to see how people aren’t so much different, that in truth we are all the same.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / Proof that god is fake

Ahhhhh….. I mean some real in depth research with many different sources and views, from both sides of the perspective ultimately making you decide which is right. Not some crap dictionary definition.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / 2012

2 words. Fear and obsession.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / Are your moral standards consistent? Test...

I knew it was too vague for anyone to understand. Well it meant for you to look inside of yourself and figure out the answer on your own and understand that what you think IS the answer. But nahh, it’s to vague.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / 2012

Air man just look at the nasa quote, we all know it’s not going to happen.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / Are your moral standards consistent? Test...

Look deeper.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / Are your moral standards consistent? Test...

Janto… How can you not see the depth of my statement?

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / Proof that god is fake

All science is based on initial assumptions.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / Proof that god is fake

See that’s where the misconception begins. Because that’s EXACTLY what science is.

Do some research, what’s the harm of looking it up. Even if I’m wrong.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / Proof that god is fake

My point was just to be briefly informative. It’s not an in depth explanation. I said this because just sooo soooo many people don’t know what science is, don’t know what logic is and are lead to believe, by culture, the wrong things.

That’s all. I think I did a pretty good job.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / Are your moral standards consistent? Test...

Yes. Now tell me.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / Are your moral standards consistent? Test...

Easy, what do you think it is?

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / Are your moral standards consistent? Test...

The way you put it makes everything seem so hopeless. You’re saying that nothing I do will matter. You’re saying that no matter how hard I fight against evil, it’s just going to come back up again and put me down even harder. That evil will just spring up again, even harder so.

Who are you to say that will happen?

Instead, I’ll say that what if something good comes out of the whole situation. That evil is gone and good comes to replace it.

See I believe that ultimately, true good will defeat true evil.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / Are your moral standards consistent? Test...

Thanks Dark, I can understand now. I think what I was saying and focusing on was just the alleviation of WW2, not relating it directly to what might happen after. I thought that, even if I stopped it, other wars are going to happen, but at least I helped these people out. But when you say that stopping WW2 (The deaths) will of directly caused, instead of saving people, the actual killing even more people, I start to hesitate.

What I meant by killing hitler was directly stopping WW2, I didn’t really think about the politics of the situation. I just saw it as a cause and effect thing. Kill a person, Save 100 million.

I believe the ends justify the means… to a certain extent.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / Are your moral standards consistent? Test...

Why is everyone being so damn cold hearted and calculated, has anyone actually seen what despicable things happened in that war? Just a chance to stop that, even by a tiny fraction, is good enough for me to try to remove so much….. Evil, that has happened. We are looking at the MILLIONS, damnit MILLIONS!!!!!!!!!! Doesn’t that mean anything to anyone here? If you have a chance, any possible one, to make a difference in even one person’s life, why wouldn’t you do it? Sure you don’t know what will happen after, but isn’t that worth it, to have known that people don’t have to suffer, so damn horribly, because of what you did to help? I don’t know about you, but that seems damn good reason enough for me to do it.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / Proof that god is fake

Winnabago, please realize your humility, I’m saying this as a person to another person. You’re on a game site, how can you assume that you have such authority over all things? You have good intentions, but you got caught up with what science actually is, and what it isn’t. This stupid debate has been going on way longer than any of us were born. It’s a matter of trust (Not reason, I’m sorry but that is just another misconception (Again, sorry)), either you trust people, or in God, or you don’t. Faith isn’t an argument.

Let me try to clear things up about what science and everything is:

Science:

Epistemology
• A way of knowing, a way of developing knowledge about the world
• Many epistemologies exist – science is ONE of these
• Others include religion, art, etc.
• What makes one epistemology different from another?
o How they go about asking questions, the ways one looks ar the world

Empirical
• Scientific Epistemologies are empirical
• Need for testing theories against experience and reality, things unfolding in real time
• Checking deliberately, maybe systematically, for how useful these theories are

Natural Laws and Processes
• Science deals with the natural, not the supernatural—not anti-theistic, but atheistic
• Problems of scientific justification – e.g. scientific racism

How vs. why
• E.g. plant growing towards the sun – science explains how things work, as opposed to why things happen
• BUT—questions of why are in fact those with most meaning for humans – science doesn’t answer these questions, but it doesn’t mean that these questions of why aren’t valid

Assumptions, faith, and the provisional
• Assumption – concluding something without evidence, something taken to be true on the basis of faith – you do not prove assumptions
• And assumption, by definition, is held on the basis of faith
• Proofs are only possible if you accept the initial assumptions
• Science also makes assumptions – on relationships like cause and effect
• Science makes as few assumptions as possible, and allows for a change
• Always go with the simpler model—that is as few assumptions as possible
• Only accept these assumptions provisionally
• Science has never proved anything. Proof is never possible – because you must take the initial assumptions
• Hypothesis – statement about the world, that can be falsified – a disprovable statement
• Proof in the negative is very different than proof in the positive
• Theory – bigger broader conceptual ideas upon which hypothesis are based
• Good theories generate lots of hypothesis that don’t get disproven
• You don’t disprove theories, you do disprove the hypothesis generated by this theory
• Newtonian physics – gravity – use this theory because it is a useful theory
• Einstein broke with a number of newton’s assumptions about space and time – this was a paradigm shift when Einstein becomes more useful than newton for explaining some things
• Creationist scientists – oxymoronic -

Scientific, Culture, Human Nature
scientists speak with great authority, as if they can tell us what it is really like ‘out there’
science doesn’t generate knowledge in a vacuum; it is part of ‘culture’
scientists themselves have grown up in socio-cultural context, have internalized that context and as for most of us, these meanings and assumptions are taken for granted, are not even aware of them most of the time
science also produces knowledge and culture, giving us ways of thinking that shape how everyone else thinks
special problems for science of ‘human nature’

Accuracy and Authority
– science aims for accuracy – can build models that check for accuracy, evaluate utility of research; if model does not work, then can build better one
– science has authority, has special claims to validity; scientists speak with authority, but not necessarily with accuracy
-scientism: uncritical acceptance of authority of scientific statements

Epistemological Limits of Science
there is no hypothesis that can be tested to show whether God exists or not – is outside epistemological limits of science
(If you can’t test it, it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist, it just means that you cannot know through science)

I hope this really clears things up. And don’t be ashamed, we ALL went through the same thing. I remember when I was like this, hahaha, good times. Anyway, if you have any more questions, you can try to do some research to get a better understanding of what science actually is. I hope you can find peace my friends.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Off-topic / This should be interesting

http://www.scribd.com/doc/67339279/What-It-Means-to-Be-98-Chimpanzee-apes-People-and-Their-Genes

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / Proof that god is fake

Awesome… THANK YOU. Finally someone with some kind of reasonable sense. Someone who isn’t so cold. People need comfort, we trust in things around our lives because it gets us through the day. It’s like, it’s not proven that the sun will rise everyday. But you can sure as hell depend on that. Why! I bet you that the sun will rise everyday for the rest of my life! I do this because I can trust this and rely on it.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / Proof that god is fake

What’s with this “logic.” The world has full of logic.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / 2012

Hahahhahahahahhaha, I love you’re joke. But some people won’t understand that you’re joking. Which is a bit dangerous. But none the less, you’re funny.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / Proof that god is fake

Science is one way of knowing things. And it can only be used on things that you can test. If you can’t test it, it doesn’t mean that it’s wrong, it just means that you can’t find out through science. Another thing, you can never prove something using science, you can only disprove something. Science’s theories are not proven, nothing is, they are just useful to us for dealing with the world. Also, “faith” isn’t a religious thing, it’s a people thing. Scientists look at something and try to give an explanation of what they think is happening. In short, they make an assumption. All scientific theories are based on initial assumptions. And what are assumptions? An assumption, by definition, is held on the basis of faith. So, science is based on faith! So we trust science provisionally, until a new more useful theory is available for us.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Serious Discussion / 2012

For all those who are just here for a quick answer, here is a simple explanation of why the world won’t end on 2012:

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html

 
Flag Post

Topic: Off-topic / Argothin

Why has this become a conversation about fapping now? lol

 
Flag Post

Topic: Off-topic / Argothin

If you don’t want to read it, that’s okay… but it is a very good story…

 
Flag Post

Topic: Off-topic / Argothin

August 2, in the Hive, I happened across this strange fellow who called himself Argothin. The conversation lasted about seven hours from 12:00 am to around 7:00 am. It was simply the longest and weirdest conversation I have ever been in. It started off as we began to talk about our names and their origins. As I finished my story, he began telling his; I was instantly amazed by his story, as it was so detailed.

His story was about a boy by the name of Maune Crows, he was born October 23rd, 1193. This 19 year old boy chose to name himself Argothin after some kind of trauma incurred during his life. Maune joined some mercenaries and ended up betraying them. He then got into some kind of trouble and died trying to protect Melody, his love(who also died).Later I found out that Maune(spiritual entity) and Argothin(spiritual entity) were some kind of entities that chose to dwell in Argothin’s(the boy) mind.

At the end of the discussion, I came up with three possible conclusions: One, what he is saying is the truth. Two, he is lying. Three, he has multiple personality disorder

Sooo if you want to read the whole article, here it is