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Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

Originally posted by vikaTae:

Originally posted by TheBSG:

I don’t think we’re talking about the same things then, Vika.

I would say so, BSG. I, the OP and most of the posters here have been speaking about the Christian god. You have been the only one trying to generalise that statement to somehow mean we must automatically be speaking about all gods when we make such statements.

I’ve given you two examples of quite plausible gods to humor you. My opinion of them is quite different to that of the Christian one because I can see how they are plausible whilst I can see how the Christian one is not plausible. Can you understand then how my opinion is going to differ, despite them still being gods?

EDIT: A god does not have to be the creator of a universe to still be a god. Many cultures on this planet have had or still have a wide diversity of gods for different things. They all have in common however, that they are effectively unkillable by normal, mortal means, and they are singular beings with a power and knowledge level far above that expected of a human. They are way ahead of the curve.

Okay? So we were talking about different things… Sometimes I feel like you’re talking past me to someone behind me. You identified as a 7 on Dawkins’ scale of atheism, which is not related to just Christianity. I was mentioning that you’re probably not a 7 given your belief in potential Gods, which you somehow seem to think I also misunderstood and disagree with. Reread the posts.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

I don’t think we’re talking about the same things then, Vika.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

But you’re talking about theism in regards to a single religion. Atheism in regards to all religions is a temporary stance. There is no positive evidence that no god exists, therefore 7 is quite a claim. You yourself believe there are likely God-creatures in existence today: The key to atheism is acknowledging our lack of information about them, if they even exist. The stance that Christianity, as it is described, is inherently false is different from the stance that all religions/gods are inherently false. The only word you need to add to that last stance is “known.” All known claims about God/s are patently falsifiable.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

Agreed.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

The astounding amount of cognitive dissonance required to believe in one religion over another is spectacularly resilient.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

The clan me and my friends play Bloodline Champions and Battlefield was The Superior Ones (tS1). So, yes!

Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

“Time lacks the passiveness in unconsciousness.”

I will give props to anyone who can translate this into English.

If I understand what you’re trying to say (which I would never even begin to claim), the entire period of time before you were alive is rather unperceived, so it must not exist either huh?

Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

Originally posted by thecartm:

If we were supposed to know of a god, we would.

You can’t have it both ways. Either we know about it, or we don’t. I’m the one arguing you don’t know about it, so you’re either agreeing with me, or trying to make special circumstances in which you can know something but not know it at the exact same time. You don’t know anything more about God than I do, yet claim features of a God that you then claim cannot be determined because it’s unknowable. If that isn’t the definition of cognitive dissonance…

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

And so, my state joins the modern world.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

Right, I understand the simulation argument and why it may or may not be true (I disagree with the statistical claim that we’re likely living in one, but that’s a different thread) but I don’t understand how any God answers any questions, much less the same as the simulationist argument (which arguably answers few questions and is rather arbitrary in its own right.)

Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

I have no idea what questions God answers that are also answered by the simulation argument? I wasn’t even aware anyone’s God story explained anything at all much less quantum mechanics. Please enlighten me.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

…. How in the world does humans being alive means that humans are always alive? It’s like people don’t want to acknowledge the blatantly obvious. Your brain can’t work anymore? You don’t work anymore.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

Logic and no logic.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

You cannot prove that I am not god.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

Empty polemics robot is meaningless.

Questions don’t imply your answers without evidence. That’s starting with a supposition and ending with an argument. I am immortal because I am alive and the sky is blue. I am alive and the sky is blue, thus I am immortal. I read it in a book from a long time go but it burned up in a fire made by God to keep the stupid people from learning all of these secrets about skies and immortality.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Problems with the girls: sterotypical case.

Okay, I am going to agree on a level with Karma, but I want to specify the main important point: The “dick wet” thing wasn’t just about sex, but about seeking a “mate” or whatever. Don’t look for girlfriends. Look for deep intimate relationships with everyone. Don’t sit on the surface with people. Be genuine, and care deeply about others. This is also going to take pruning of your friend circle. Only keep thoughtful, respectful, and interesting people in your circle and give them everything.

Find older people, make friends with married couples, know someone who’s gone through a completely different experience than you. Just be friendly and open with people who are worth your time (this is key) and you’ll end up somehow finding love in the process. It sounds corny, but it’s such a true thing: Just be yourself. That’s really the hardest part. If you like doing puzzles, go to a puzzle convention. If you like playing dungeons and dragons, do that. If you are into playing videogames, start making fan art or writing fan fiction for the game. If you don’t know what you like, go to a community club and see what events and groups get together. Google something you’re interested in.

You’ll meet people you like and really get along with and you’ll forget about the world and you’ll love them regardless of which genitals they have, and maybe one with the genitals you like will like you and wow that’s an amazing coincidence that happened to you instead of something you essentially fabricated and thus is bound to fail.

Or a girl cutting your hair or her sister or someone will notice you being proud of who you are and she hates that kind of thing but loves you for loving it and you fall in love. Something like that. Stop looking, just be an interesting person and make cool friends. They’ll know someone who likes you.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

Originally posted by slasher:

What has been established: A deity cannot be proven or dis-proven. The bible and other attempts at creating a false deity’s words into scripture to rule humanity, however, can be easily dis-proven. If there is a deity, then we haven’t had any true contact with it/them.

I’d say this is pretty much true. The only addendum I’d add is that we don’t have any accurate contact/image of that deity. I think it’s more correct to say that “It didn’t happen exactly that way.” Giving the benefit of the doubt that it may have happened somehow and could be a God is an unfair pardon though. It could have been anything, but suggesting it’s a particular God requires a reason, and if there’s no actual reason you came up with a feature or explanation, then it’s false by its very nature. The same reason a coincidence of me guessing what present you got me doesn’t make me a psychic, or give me x-ray vision to be able to see into the box. Only if that’s actually where I got the data from does it mean that the data is true, even if it happens to be true.

That said, if a God being did arrive, I think the bible would be an accurate representation of Mankind’s then-contemporary understanding of the situation. That’s still a poor explanation, and not much of a theory of anything. There’s no problem that requires a God that matches any religious explanation in the world, and all of the attempts to marry the stories to hard science end up evoking Ignosticism, the question of the true definition of “God.” Gravity is a God, if we want to argue about forces of nature that are measurable.

So in conclusion, yes: “There aren’t any known Gods, and all current claims about God are falsifiable, or unfalsifiable, but none are known as true.” I/Agnostic Atheism is the most logical, consistent stance.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Problems with the girls: sterotypical case.

Please don’t perpetuate the friend zone concept. The notion that you should seek intimate relationships with people you’re not friends with is profoundly stupid. If a person doesn’t date their friends, they are emotionally retarded and wonder why they always end up with awful people. Have all kinds of people in your friend zone and build it up, and don’t worry about the people who don’t date inside of that friend zone, they’re not worth dating.

Treat all of your relationships like you’re building something together and stop worrying about getting your dick wet, and you’ll have profoundly validating and deeply meaningful relationships with all kinds of people your entire life (not just potential mates, either), and you’ll also probably manage to get your dick wet in the process. It’s about switching the goal and the action around and living as you would like to live instead of looking for it elsewhere. Becoming a better, more interesting person also helps with all of the anxiety. Have something to say.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Boston Marathon Double Explosions

I still don’t understand why people so well educated would only detonate the bombs so late in the race. The devices ended up being rather sophisticated too, so they had ample means to time them at a specific moment. Furthermore, the kinds of groups they may or may not belong to aren’t shy about acknowledging their acts. I still think they were acting independently of any organizations, so far.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Boston Marathon Double Explosions

And now we’re all on a watch list.

Haha, as if I already wasn’t.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Boston Marathon Double Explosions

Oh yeah, I still think I have the burned CD my then-anarcho-punk cousin gave me when I was waaaaay too young.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun Issues

The uncompromising stupidity of the arguments in this thread makes it painfully obvious that this whole thing is begging the question on a profound level. Neither gun opponents or proponents seem to ever really say anything that doesn’t apply even a little bit in any other situation in which risk and regulated autonomy are concerned. Anyone who’s been a child or has had children should find this whole discussion astoundingly irrelevant to actual security and intelligent risk management. They will find the cookies if you hide them, they will eat cookies like they’re air if you don’t monitor their intake, but if you tell them how much more enjoyable a cookie can be if you wait, and then play that game with them, it teaches them responsibility that you could never explain. I’m not exactly making an analogy here, more of an example of the complete lack of intelligence in treating cookies and guns as if they’re active participants in their abuse that can be “un”-engineered.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Boston Marathon Double Explosions

Do you seriously identify with white supremacy groups because they’re on the same side of the political spectrum as yourself to the point where you’re threatened by the implication that they may have been behind the attacks? This team sports ideology is awfully destructive to rationality and basic human decency. As if one would expect you to take responsibility for militant Islamic attacks because you’re both religious. As if I have to apologize for Vern Troyer (I mean I will, but not because I have to.)

Topic: Serious Discussion / Your opinion on polygamy?

The most accurate and succinct 3 sentence post I’ve ever seen. You nailed it: There’s nothing wrong with consenting, non-coerced adults engaging in relationships with more than one partner, and having laws that describe and regulate those relationships. That said, I think many people in polyandrous relationships are being taken advantage of.

All that aside, “Sister Wives” is quite possibly one of the most captivating shows I’ve ever watched. It’s nice to see people living a different lifestyle than my own, and for the most part, I think it works for them.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Boston Marathon Double Explosions

The bomb went off 3 hours after the main pack had finished the race. It also maimed more than it killed, which may have been the intention (Maiming leaves a longer lasting scar, where deaths are just a number.) even if it was poorly executed.