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Topic: War of Omens / Goat Outrider

Originally posted by Febo_Apolo:

20 out of 130 is 15.3% not 0.0000000000000015%, now you probable tried to math that exactly coin toss
lets say 65 dodges out of 130 when you hit once and dodge the next one every time is the same as getting a meteorite hit twice.not becuase 65 out of 130 is hard at 50% more like having that linear path of one ddoge asfter one hit after one dodge

This is utter nonsense. The change of getting not more than 20 heads of 130 coin tosses (or at least 110 tails, depends how you see it, same result) is: 1.4957132459847117e-16. or 0.000000000000001495%

See here, “Binomial Distribution” is the mathematical concept behind this:
http://www.statisticshowto.com/calculators/binomial-distribution-calculator/

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Getting newly released cards

I drew 2 epics from oak packs.

Dunno how many I bought, enough to get all commons maxed and a bit more than necessary, since I didn’t spread out in the beginning, but focused on one faction.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Interface suggestion: counter of cards in hand

Please, have a mercy with Vespitole players and provide a counter of how many cards one has in hand. Could similar as a mouse over effect as cards in decks.

When holding 9 or 10 coins I often need to pause, counting if it are 9 or 10 coins… It would be easy to count how many non-coins one has, so a total counter of cards in hand as mouse over effect would be nice. Or just display the amount as small number when its more than say 5.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / New Hero (New Card Suggestions)

For any new hero: No more % chances please.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / The Metris bogeyman rises again

I agree on the “too much luck” factor. For me this is an issue on the whole game and Metris hits its most (Endazu second being dependand on the right combos coming up). I know, all card games are always going to have some luck in them, its not going to be like chess. But there is something like too much luck. I like it like in bridge, of course there is luck, but overall playing skill means so much more — and its not only deck construction skill, but also how you decide to play it.

I remember facing Loquori (Metris), I went first and from my 4 starting coins he stole 2. Yes its unlikely, but seriously. I start with 2 coins the first round, can’t buy anything (I didn’t play Metris that time) and he starts with 8? This game was over even before it started…

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Bye, and thanks for all the stupid Metris

Okay, sorry.

Lets let this thread die then.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Bye, and thanks for all the stupid Metris

Well who is countering here who? He (or she, i will just say he for the simplicity) didn’t say Metris is overpowered, etc. just said, he considers it unfun. This is a feeling, instead of accepting it, people came here and “countered” that and started to discuss it. Then when said, you don’t understand anyway, since nobody in fact seems to understand, playing the “called me implicitly an idiot” card is not going to help anyway.

Okay, somebody has vented his frustration, fine. Can’t we just accept it?

Summary this went as followes:
A: “This is frustrating for me”
B: “Metris is not overpowered, you play wrong!”
A: “You didn’t understand what I was saying”
B: “You call me an idiot?!?!?”

Thats a way how communication can fail.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Bye, and thanks for all the stupid Metris

Originally posted by alexgar:

Well, to tell the truth, OP is just complaining without arguments

I only see someone who played the game a lot says at one point, s/he got enough of it. Which is fair. Then shared the most frustrating feeling. You can’t argue feelings away, lets just accept it. The way s/he worded is not “I want you to change the game”, it is “I didn’t enjoy this or that”. Okay, fine. I can see where it is coming from if you play against Metris especially if you are classical Daramek (that is not Mogesh sacrifice), in total considering the pros and cons I still enjoy the game. And I enjoy playing Metris, even Metris vs. Metris. Metris is very strong in the first rounds and which can be pretty frustrating on the other hand, if you are Metris and cant kill the opponent fast enough, its just as frustrating when you managed to cut a Vesp down and a turn later s/he plays another 8 units again on the table… A game where you play against someone else will always have its frustrating moments, thats the thing of competition.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Misinformation = Badly Designed

Or a graveyard like other card games have, it gets in the graveyard where you can review the last 10 cards or so.

BTW: This also opens up new card possibilities of special cases of reviving a card from the graveyard. And I already see a whole new faction possibility of one, whose speciality is to interact especially with its own and the opponents graveyard.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Misinformation = Badly Designed

My one real problem with Misinformation is, I often don’t see which card was removed from my bank.

I so far hardly faced any human in multiplayer using that card.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Bye, and thanks for all the stupid Metris

Stating the obvious isn’t really gonna change the game.

I didn’t read any request so.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Bye, and thanks for all the stupid Metris

I agree, regardless of win ratios etc. playing against metris with say Daramek is extremly frustrating, its the the way the human brains works. Its one hit after the other, “I can’t believe you’ve just done that to me”.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Usury - Pointless

But generally usury does NOT buy you time, it eats your time, since its a loan that usually speeds up the oponnent. For me the question is only when counting on replaying the card, it speeds you more up than him.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Usury - Pointless

I experimented a bit with a Listrata food-creation deck with Usury and Bureucrat. Yes it is possible to pin the opponent into negative with several Usuries and taking the stuff with the Bureucrats/food, but even with plenty effort it didn’t completly nailed him. However with the same effort, I could’ve killed him with a Soldier and feeding him a long time before. Thus for pinning the opponent, yes, Usury is in fact pointless.

However, as has been pointed out, after the second draw, Usury means 8 gold income for you for free, regardless of the temporary boost you give the opponent, so unless this boost makes him kill you, its a good strategy for going to infinity fast, for this use, usury is not pointless.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Bye, and thanks for all the stupid Metris

Coming from someone who prefers to play Birondelle a lot, I agree, Metris can be very powerful. They are the Judo fighters.

However, for me its none of the reasons you mentioned, its because they can circumvent best what limits others: options. Most factions are soon severly limited by the options they get from the bank — only 1 card per turn, while Metris can be made to have much more options. Only other faction that can work around that somewhat is Vesp with Synode, however they also never have as much options, since Birondelle will get options from her cards and from yours!

For me when I started the game, Metris was horrible; never won anyhting. However, they are also main beneficiary of another game mechanic: upgrading cards. Since they got cheapest to start with, they get most from upgrading. Upgrading a vesp card from 8 cost to 6 is good, however upgrading a metris card from 2 cost to 0 is huge. When starting as Birondelle I can often play 3 cards right away. Try that with another faction!

About Mog. I can use the sacrifical lambs against him, as long he got any sacrifice cards which any Mog decks I faced had. The main thing when playing Daramek against Metris is: do not use rites! Metris can often make much better use of a stolen rite, since they get cards and plays with Informant, Subterfuge, Infiltrate, Deceit and Impersonate. When I get my hands on a high level rite as Metris, the game is as good as over. Yes Daramek are the ones who suffer most against Metris.

To my experience, Metris is currently weakest against Vesp, especially the Vesp decks that dont base on super-expensive cards that can be seduced. They often build up wealth much faster than it can be stolen. You can wipe the board with Mayhem once or twice, However Vesp will just as quickly build up again — and get more wealth from instant cards on the way.

Anyway, despite all this, I still get best win ratios with Jesmai, but I don’t play her too often, because her play is relatively boring.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Please remove or change the "Win X Games in a Row" Daily Quests

That said, my understanding is that you do have an MP rank, and that determines who you get matched up with, and so as a beginner

The devs answered somewhere that matching is based on card values, lots of maxed cards gets matched with lots of maxed cards and vice versa. Throw out all coins in a deck and you are instantly rankes lower.

Individual games mean nothing.

A newbie spending 100$ on the game to get instantly tons of good cards gets instantly ranked up if s/he uses them in a deck.

It is a very smart solution.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Speed League - or god give me patience but make it fast.

oh but they can have two leagues!

and for all that is worth you can have the option “don’t care” to get the soonest games — which is btw. a performative paradox, since you don’t seem to care too much about waiting :)

Or is your fear that when a fast league becomes available too few people would actually prefer the slow thing?


The chess idea is okay only when the opponent forfeits in the first turn it still counts as win, otherwise they wait 2 minutes and then quit? Btw. I think it should be anyway counting as win even without timing change, sometimes I get a great, great start deal and what happens? Instead quit, doesn’t count! Fu!

But yes, the basic idea first round more time than following is a fair suggestion — or leave the first turn as it is and reduce the following a bit.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Speed League - or god give me patience but make it fast.

Actually I’m a quite patient guy, a lot more patient than the most people I party up in other MMOs.

However, some people here seem to make a science out of it. Some people when they are loosing are waiting up to end their turn on the last second (please dont lecture me about mechanics when you let it run out completely, I know).

However, all the patience in the world, for me the card game is more a nice pastime and I play from my guts without a calculation sheet.

I’m sure I’m not the only one.

Can we have a fast thinker multiplayer league, please? 10 seconds turn time + 0.5 per card?

People who prefer the current setting can join the other leage. Nobody is forced to anything, everybodies own choice.

Pretty Please?

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Usury - Pointless

Why does extend from Coordinate (Metris) not work on Usury?

It got the same hourglass symbol as the metris cards…

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Share your deck

All your card are belong to us.

- or -

Lets play a game of cards, your cards are my cards and my cards are non of your business!

Birondelle:
Informant (3)
Misdirect (2)
Forgery (4)
Robery (1)
Seduce (4)
Stolen Plans (3)
Subterfuge (5)
Impersonate (1)
Infiltrate (11)
Infighting (2)

I had a lot of fun with this, the main idea is to counter what I complained about, options in your bank and take the opponents deck and use it against him.

This way she gets stuff from her ability and steals and copies what is possible. Might replace Robbery with Ransack, I’m not sure, Rob is a cool move on the very start of the game, but close to useless later.

By itself the deck hardly has any offense, offense is going to be what the other deck is going to offer. Only exception is infighting, it is too good with a lot of enemies and a free redraw when there aren’t.
That and the 2 skulls seduce offers when there is nothing to seduce.

I’m having win ratios on multi somewhat above 50%, sometimes the other is just faster before I can turn his deck against him, but often enough it gets better than the opponent since eventually I’ll draw more cards from his deck than he does.

One of the drawbacks playing this against humans is that they know their deck, so when you turn it against them, they know how to throw a spanner in its work, the moments with other decks when you realize the opponent is quite missing how to properly harm you are less with this. At the same time I sometimes I have to figure out how to use this deck, sometimes its easy and known, sometimes she kinda misses the hero ability the other decks uses (mogesh basing on his sacrifice for example)

The one deck this has no chance against is another metris with a bomb/poison deck, she cant seduce bombs, she cant build up defenses with the opponents cards or generate a good income, and even with stealing bomb plans the opponent is going to do this faster.

Oh and I love Stolen Plans, at first I thought, so I gonna pay 3 extra to get the same thing the opponent gets just more expensive? Well, but first it reduceses the opponent options and increases owns. Secondly stealing plans can be done, before the the opponent gets a chance to buy a new draw. So when I see that he waits on a specific card (for example listrate with lots of food finally gets her merchant), and it shows up, zoom, it gets stolen.

Anyway, I kinda enjoy it most as it gives the most interesting games.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Usury - Pointless

I just want to share you the google hit on this discussion.

I agree it looks like it has its uses, the question is only if these are not a bit too situational to warrant a slot in the deck.

The main issue I see is that other factions have cheaper prices (due to not having redraw mechanic), so 6 gold for them is way more than 8 for a vesp. With my metris deck I can can do some pretty substantial stuff with 6 gold.

Otherwise I’ll add my opinion as soon I could experiment with it.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Please remove or change the "Win X Games in a Row" Daily Quests

If the In-A-Row quests would just reduce your progress by 1 instead of resetting on a defeat, it ought to be fine for everbody.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Please remove or change the "Win X Games in a Row" Daily Quests

The win X games in a row quests can usually be done at any difficulty, including novice.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Thought on Jesmai & suggested change

What I’d like to make her play more Endazu like: Anima on hand charge 2 instead of the usual 1 per turn.

 
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Topic: War of Omens / Thought on Jesmai & suggested change

While I prefer playing Jesmai because she is quite powerful and leads to quick wins when she is and quick loses when she doesn’t, what I don’t like about her ability it kinde doesn’t feel “Endazu” like, in the way, I stop holding stuff to charge it, beyond maybe the very first 2 turns, because I can charge it on the table anyway.