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Terroists are people too
Just to throw my opinion in here…
Terrorists are not motivated purely by an urge to destroy capitalist America for the sake of it, they have reasons for doing things just like anyone else. For some, the reasoning may come from religion or ideology, but for others, it probably comes from direct emotional trauma. For instance, say a man has his wife or other close family member killed in a rocket attack meant for insurgents in a firefight in Afghanistan, it doesn’t matter that this killing was collateral damage, for this person it is if it has been on purpose, and thus he has every reason to attack and destroy us in any way.
That isn’t to say that the leaders don’t do anything, they could reinforce the idea that it was all of America that killed those he knows, rather than the military of our country, and thus he could be coerced into attacking civilians having nothing to do with him.
And lets look at the bigger picture, we have had one major terrorist attack in this country, and I don’t know of any minor ones even, and yet we continually remove people’s rights in the name of anti-terrorism. We need to see what is best, not just what is “Anti-terror”.
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Illegal Immigration
Just my 2 cents.
It seems immigration law is riddled with cases of nationalism and xenophobia, and it seems that in these modern times (haha) we should be more open to foreigners.
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AX: Aborting Fetuses With Birth Defects
Originally posted by SithDoughnut:
Originally posted by Deadclever23:
No, I don’t think they should be aborted.
My sister’s in a wheelchair mind you, but I love that girl dearly.
All humans deserve to live. Everyone suffers in life some way but i believe life is more valuable than suffering. Suffering is part of life and should learned to be lived with. As long as somebody is as happy as possible even with the suffering then that means something’s being done right.
So if someone was to be in acute pain and on life support for the rest of their life, and you knew in advance, you’d rather let them suffer than never live at all? All humans may deserve to live, but that doesn’t mean they’ll all want to.
To be fair, how many birth defects fit into that description?
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Pedo given Viagra in the NHS
Originally posted by BnBn:
Originally posted by Viral:
Remember, not all pedophiles are exclusively attracted to children, he may need this for entirely legitimate reasons.
He has a 30-year history of molestation.
I was just mentioning that we should keep what I said in mind.
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Remember, not all pedophiles are exclusively attracted to children, he may need this for entirely legitimate reasons.
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The End of the War On Terror
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But not before they declare war on some other thing thats terrible and dangerous to us good americans
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But really, I think this is a step in the right direction, it may lead to less death overall.
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Why does bottled water have an expiration date?
Originally posted by TheBSG:
Yeah, that’s one of the least viable methods of desalination, actually. Physical methods are far less costly, but are still complex and not nearly as efficient as they need to be to get fresh water into the middle of the desert.
Personally, I’m critical that we still have people living in deserts.
The thing about people living in deserts, is that no one really has the right to tell them to move. An example of this can be suburbs, you could say that suburbs are wasteful due to the amount of fuel it takes to get from place to place and the low population density. Even if all of these things are true, is it right to move them into a denser area?
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Global Warming
Originally posted by Redem:
Ice Caps Melt = Colder Waters
Colder Waters = More Ice Caps
Colder Waters = Colder Climate
This part is so wrong I’m not sure where to go with it…
No.
Ice caps melting = lower albedo = higher temperatures = ice caps melting
Your original argument doesn’t work because if the total heat going into the earth is enough to melt it in the first place, its not going to get cold again. An example would be that you have a lukewarm glass of water, so you fill it with ice, if your argument was correct soon the entire glass of water would freeze.
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Why does bottled water have an expiration date?
what I said in my earlier post is false, that is what I get for not posting sources.
Citation
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Why does bottled water have an expiration date?
Originally posted by TheBSG:
You breath in air with so many particulates in it that you’d be sick to know. I hate when people get whiney about a little dirt, rat piss, or plastic in their food due to impossible to control circomstances.
That said, I think this is less a problem with the FDA, and more a problem with the fact that we buy bottled water while paying for public water services that are either inadequate (making bottled water necessary but retarded) or are fantastic yet people still drink it bottled. It’s mind numbing.
I remember the very first time I was confronted with bottled water in DULUTH MINNESOTA. A city attached to the largest fresh lake in the world. I was bowled over. I still have a hard time when I watch people pay for water someone already probably paid for once with taxes.
I am very aware of the scare tactics used to get various things banned, but it seems BPAs is a credible threat. When cold, the amount of BPAs released into the water is minimal, but when warmed up, the release could reach about 60 times that of cold water.
Also, spring water isn’t really much cleaner than normal water normally. It is probably dirtier than water from a (good) municipal water supply.
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Why does bottled water have an expiration date?
This is probably due to the fact that plastic bottles leach small quantities of Bisophenol A into the water, and it may reach too high of levels at that point.
The use of it in plastics is an entirely different discussion.
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Intellectual Property
Originally posted by Carados:
What exactly do you disagree with?
The entire thing is built on the misconception that if you open an MP3 in notepad, email it to someone else, then they save it in notepad and change the extension to match what you started with, you’d have a perfect duplicate of the file.
Test it, it isn’t true.
In addition, it also makes the assumption that there is a, for example, only one possible number sequence for each possible song.
Doesn’t that make the notion of having “illegal numbers” even more inaccurate?
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Intellectual Property
This is an interesting thing about numbers in this case.
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Sport-hunting for humans? (anti-pirate cruise lines)
Originally posted by RMcD:
Not even close, try understanding law a bit before you start spouting nonsense again. Hell, just read the law I quoted, it really isn’t that difficult is it?
War’s not premeditated murder? I’m sorry, I thought it was, with all they tactics about how best to kill the enemy.
This is not war. War is only declared on countries by other countries, not groups of people, of person. Would it be correct if a country declared a war on a sector of its citizens, and proceeded to kill them?
Also, its not like the pirates do this for fun, a lot of them do it out of necessity.
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2nd Korean War??
N.K does not have the power to destroy the U.S, U.K, or any other large, established country, this seems like saber rattling to me.
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It's almost here? ∞ Energy
The problem with wireless power transmission is this:
Lets say that it takes one unit of power to make one “ray”, and since any objects only emit rays in a 360 degree circle (lets assume this is in a 2d plane), and you send a “ray” for every degree in that circle, that would be 360 units of power. Lets also say you have a receiver that can receive these rays at 100% efficiency , meaning for every ray it produces 1 unit of power, if you were sending this power over a long distance, you could lets say build a receiver occupying about 2 or 3 degrees of the power sources view, meaning it would only be at 2 or 3% efficiency, much lower than wired transmission.
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Whats worse?
Originally posted by Darkruler2005:
Paca’s going the “lalalalaaa I can’t hear what you say, I’ll just scream until you bring up a point I am able to argue against” again. I’ll give you one last chance to reply to what I said, so I can bring over my point nice and clear.
Why do you assume that you have the right to decide what can or cannot be said in this discussion?
We are calling it what it is, and we are not basing our points on emotions. We are instead trying to keep it objective. To reinforce what a fetus really is, we will have to name it. It was not a negative name, that’s what you are making of it. If we keep on allowing people to remove words from a discussion, it will ensue hilarity. As long as one is not insulting another, I do not think that we’ve crossed the line here.
If you’re trying to start the “you’re changing the subject!” story again, I’ll just assume you’re trying to troll me, and ignore your posts until the heat is over.
How about we just call it a fetus?
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Whats worse?
Originally posted by Carados:
The issue is: Is it murder?
If it is murder, then we can decide if over population is worth killing to fix.
If its not, then its not a hard choice.
Circular logic.
Murder is defined as “illegal killing.” or something to that effect.
And I still fail to see how this issue is more complicated then “If you have a problem with it, don’t do it.”
Hmm, I mean something else when I say murder, I’ll say killing then.
Also, if you think it is killing it is much more complicated than not doing it, because most people can’t stand aside when they think someone is being unjustly killed.
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Over population isn’t an issue at all here.
The issue is: Is it murder?
If it is murder, then we can decide if over population is worth killing to fix.
If its not, then its not a hard choice.
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The End of Globalization and the Fall of Capitalism
Originally posted by zamininc:
Originally posted by dctaco12:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming
I am presenting clear, factual arguements that you cant shoot down. I am easily shooting yours down. This is called a debate, I am winning it.
Oh god, not a global warming nut.
Also when you say “I am winning” it just makes you look like an asshole.
Ethanol is worse than oil because in its current state it takes massive amount of land to raise the corn to do it, and corn depletes the soil more than other crop,s if we were to use ethanol to fuel even just the U.S.A, it would destroy the soil in decades if not less.
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What I was saying is that if you say that something has to display higher thought to deserve to live*, then it would be alright to kill babies, because you don’t demonstrate higher though right out of the womb. And it is murder to kill babies, so where exactly is the line?
*meaning that it is murder to kill it/them.
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Originally posted by FuzzyBacon:
In that case, abortions should be alright until about 6 months old. (Assuming age 0 at birth.)
I should really find that chart SaintAjora made.
Over ninety percent of pregnancies occur within the first 3 months (You have to scroll down a bit to find it).
“Over 90% of pregnancies occur in the first 3 months”?
Which part are you referring to?…
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The End of Globalization and the Fall of Capitalism
Actually, mars is not devoid of resources, its just at the moment uninhabitable. For example, its entire surface is coated in limonite, a type of iron ore. (Its also the thing that makes bricks red!)
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Whats worse?
Originally posted by Jabor:
holocaust- about 6,000,000 dead Jews(dying from many terrible different things).
abortion- roughly 40,000,000 dead baseless emotional appeals.
I fixed that for you. A fetus is not a baby.
so it has a heart-beats and it’s breathing,
what else does it need to do to be any more alive?
Well, cows are alive, yet we seem to eat steak an awful lot.
Simply “being alive” does not give one the right to life. You have to show that you’re a person, which logically involves being capable of higher-order thought, which requires a brain (or brain-analogue, in the case that we find some sort of alien life with radically different anatomy to ours). Which doesn’t form until the third trimester.
In that case, abortions should be alright until about 6 months old. (Assuming age 0 at birth.)
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