Topic: Forum Games: Forum Games /
The Master Thread
Well looks like I get to dust off my reading glasses and be the token mod guy. I was supposed to read all this a couple days ago, but I got lost on the way to the supermarket and placed under police custody for “Public Indency”. Pfft, whatever that means.
Now where was I?
to request running a third game in FGF
The issue at hand I see. I figured this day would come eventually, so perhaps I should have prepared something beforehand.
damn, being regular is cool, im approving shit day and night.
This is one of the pitfalls of the system that I expected as well. While I admire the enthusiasm, I can see how this is the beginning of the end of any possible barriers for most people being able to host multiple games. It’s completely your choice, but I do stress to think about the health of the forum when making decisions for approvals. It is quite possible for your actions to have a negative effect on the forum. Nothing against you this person, but it was a good opportunity to get that out of the way.
I don’t think anyone should be allowed to handle three games at once.
As valuable of an opinion as anyone’s. While I’m saving my decision for the very bottom, I will reiterate that your forum mods are people and part of this community too. They can have authority and opinions exclusive to each other. What we’re talking about today though goes beyond opinions and falls to the design of the forum and what its guidelines suggest is the best course of action for this unprecedented event.
even if he can’t handle three games, then what?
It opens the door to more inactivity, cluttered games, and proves that the forum needs to adjust the rules. As a reverse to your question: What is the harm in making him wait for his game/s to finish? Both have their merits, but waiting has no ill effects on the forum while three games giving out because the host couldn’t run them all has multiple consequences. That being said, there is nothing currently in place to bar him from trying.
You don’t have to approve, but if he gets 3 approvals… let him do it.
I only take this quote out to remind everyone that it is up to the forum moderators and their discretion as to what games are inappropriate, per the guidelines.
What makes you a host worthy of that exception over everybody on this forum?
It’s not a matter of exception. It’s a matter of self-limiting. No one else has gone so far as to try and succeed with approvals, as people have stated. That doesn’t mean your concerns here are baseless or unfounded, but they’re right that there isn’t a clear rule written saying there is limit to more than two.
if the game crashes and burns, it’s his own problem.
But it does ripple. Games end abruptly or die frequently, some people might not have such a want to come around and play. Perhaps that’s not such a catastrophe, but it is an unnecessary addition to potential decline.
even if the other 95 percent totally disagree.
If there was a reason 95% of people would disagree with a game being made, there’s probably more to the issue and the forum moderators would probably want to find a solution for everyone.
Then there should be a system where FGF regulars can disapprove (-1) the request, which can prevent the approvals (+1) of other FGF regulars. Majority wins.
This just causes in-fighting and probably a reworking of the whole system. No, I believe there’s an easier way to this.
I predict that the bar will keep being raised until the view is ruined by the clouds.
This is the core of the issue. Giving into a slippery slope that may not be so good for the forum. This has always been a fluid place with fluid regulars, rules, and opinions. This place changes far more than any of the other forums. As Jimbo said, we’ve gone from 10 games at a time, to any amount of games at a time, to community-supported duos of games, sub-forum for continuous games, and now the possibility of three games at once.
If any of the three games suffer, that is a good learning experience regardless.
And FF hits the nail on the head. I’ll write my tl;dr near the bottom for you all, but the short of it is, we’re going to learn a lot by letting this happen and it will have an effect on what happens in the future.
By what? Complaining and whining like a child than that of a Forum Moderator or even an FGF regular?
Keep respectful, everyone. Keep in mind that this is happening and if it wasn’t being allowed, then I’d understand why you’d be treating each other poorly. If I do not see politeness from people wanting to take on more responsibility, then I will definitely question their abilities and motivations. If it is hard to hold back from lashing out, why should I think you’re the right person to take on a task that practically revolves around effective communication? You should not treat the people disagreeing with you disrespectfully.
All the other posts
I love all your words, but they sort of go back and forth on issues already discussed and tangents that we can discuss later.
Congratulations! You have earned “Making it to the end of the post!”
So, I’ve disagreed and agreed with just about every major player in this argument. What can I possibly have thought up if all I’ve done is played the fence? Well shit, honestly, I was considering that we play the fence actually.
“But Gevock, what does that mean?” Excellent followup question! We see what happens with the first few instances of this occurrence. This means I’ll actually have to pay atteeeeeeeeention (ugh), but I guess I have the time squared away. I’ll be personally watching all the games hosted by the people wanting three games. I will see their outcomes, their activity, and their responsiveness of the host. I’ll bring it up to Bluji and FelineForumer if I notice the trend to be failing or if I see no actual positive impact from third games. As I said earlier, waiting for one game to finish is not as big of a deal as failing to host multiple games at once. Sure we might want to be impatient and sure we don’t have anything in place at this second, but the rules change here. It can easily be amended that three games is too many, since the guidelines ultimately fall to the administration and by extension of the administration’s authority, the forum moderation selected by them. I have no quarrel with changing the rules I originally made.
So, in short, I will be watching how this plays out over the duration of the games and I’ll be back to give you all a clear answer on what needs to happen. I’ll consult my colleagues and other people here that I trust to remain objective for the health of the forum itself.
As to 10crystalmask01 and Bluji…
I will be watching.
In this picture, the forum is the spaceship, FelineForumer is the glass, the administrators are the planet, the rules are the floor, and Bluji/Crystalmask are the chair. Oh, and I’m the cool BAMF smoking a cigarette with the really cool eyes and stuff.