Recent posts by Gevock on Kongregate

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Topic: Off-topic / The Departing Thread

Actually it’s your favorite fascist to the rescue. Either be polite or do not post.

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Topic: Off-topic / The Official Off-Topic MmeBunneh Mourning Thread

If you want to wish him well, go to his profile. He does not want a thread though.

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Topic: Off-topic / Remember back when OT mods actually posted in OT?

I had to do a bit of digging, but I found this:

Originally posted by Gevock:

As in, for example, X person on the forum is awarded a Moderator Position.

It’s not a reward or award. It’s like an army recruiter coming to your door and asking you to do your duty as a citizen.

Of course this person would be chosen by the mods themselves and such.

We usually do pick the forum mods. If we didn’t nominate them ourselves, the administration usually runs them by the active mods.

I kinda miss moderators interacting with us

I post when I see something worth posting in. Bunneh is the same way and Uzzbuzz has been posting more.

Not just saying end of line or handing bans

Unfortunately, the community gets upset if you don’t post reasons for locking most threads. So if you see five topics worth posting in on any given day, but you also lock five threads, your posts come out 50/50 for activity and lock explanations.

we make them go insane

It’s not insanity. Most everyone that has quit has done so for two reasons: They either want to focus on college/life or they don’t want to deal with being alienated, pedestal’d, and harassed voluntarily. It’s like asking a reasonable person to clean a room while a bunch of other people throw food everywhere. You get very, very little out of modding, especially on the forums.

so when ever a mod post every one makes it a big deal, and the other half makes fun of them. . .so they get tried of posting!

Essentially this.

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Topic: Kongregate / Welcome the newest community admin, QueenTakesRook!

Best pirate to pillage with. 5/5, would recommend.

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Topic: Off-topic / What did/will you major in college?

Nursing, yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

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Topic: Off-topic / Why are more people more upset when a friend is hurt?

An interesting article on the subject

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Topic: Off-topic / who do you hate the most?

Oh yeah, you can’t make threads about hating each other. Sorry about it.

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Topic: Off-topic / Hey OT

Still very relevant. You missed trip 3s. The trip trips

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Topic: Off-topic / The Official My Little Pony Thread

There is already a mental illness thread, on the front page even. You started in this thread by saying people that like the show are ill. If you keep posting here with that sort of attitude and current derailment, expect a silence.

The same branches to anyone attempting to respond to him.

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Topic: Off-topic / The Official My Little Pony Thread

Keep on topic and be respectful.

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Topic: Off-topic / To those that wanted me to leave

You leaving should not be dependent on the work of the community. If you want out, go. If you don’t, stay. Also locking this since it’s not really a topic discussing anything other than your refusal to leave unless people do work for you.

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Topic: Off-topic / Can the moderator have more tools to make the forum better?

I feel like a moth drawn to the flame.

For a website that has really strict admission rules

Not sure what you mean by this. Making accounts is easy. The rules are intentionally vague. Administration advocates leniency in most cases, but if you’ve been permabanned, you can expect a lot less slack for your actions.

the moderation is poor

I’ll have you know I bought a $70 pair of pants today because they were 75% off

I have very little respect for the majority of this community

Then you may want to leave. If you dislike a community, there’s no logical reason to stay.

Shit posts and trolling happen uncontrollably.

Pretty sure you made a few threads yesterday that did not help this situation.

Could the forum do things like temporary ban

Most bans are temporary. Even then, silences are preferable since you can still play games.

show in the comment the user was temporary banned for certain activity. Or warned and show in the comment they were warned for such activity.

Bans are personal. We don’t run a stockade for plenty of good reasons. Bringing attention to the poor behavior here is only going to glorify for many people here.

Not needed. It would make them too powerfull.

Being able to ban was common until 2011ish.

There’s quite a few things F mods can’t do, but that doesn’t mean they can’t take care of things.

Debatable. I remember an occasion where there were pages of locked threads and the forum mod was only able to keep locking since no mods/admins were around. It would require more training and scrutiny, but the more active forums benefit from having someone capable of ending spam directly.

in some cases chat mods also become F mods in which they can ban and silence

Not necessarily true. Uzzbuzz is now a room mod, but he can’t silence people on the forums since the room mod interface isn’t quite perfect. Only reason I can is because I’m global.

I’m not exactly sure what the whole reasoning is

Traditionally, chat mods were chosen because they already had shown maturity and competency in their judgement. It did not require as much combing through their activity and eyeballing. OT was the first forum to move away from this because the idea was that it was more important to pull from people high in the community. And it padded the rationale for having devs and other people that weren’t mods before, becoming forum mods. Pretty much, I’m just a dinosaur from the old system.

Actually, the problem is – there’s no strict rules.

Believe me, if the administration told me to be stricter, I would. That said, the issue is that if you set fire to a majority of the people in the community, you’ll kill it and they’ll leave. You may want that yeasy, but Kongregate is a business and wants its community/customers. They want me to keep things balanced which is much, much harder than what you want.

Mods doesn’t seem to be choosen because they’re professional / can follow the rules.

I’m going to put myself out there and say that this is baseless. You may not like the relaxed nature Kongregate prefers, but the current forum mods for OT are all caring, mature people that deal with your messes for no real gain.

It’s about postcount with semi-reliable past or connections.

I’ve been here for 7 years and only have 7k posts and no one has ever been picked because of connections. I don’t even know what kind of connections you could have? The admins generally are nice to everyone and other mods have no say in who is picked for OT.

clearly the devs are given guidance when it comes to moderation

Also agreeing with stots. The ability to edit posts without a timestamp/tag is far, far more powerful than y’all realize. I technically have the power to make any post here say anything I want. Scary stuff.

1) the only way for a mod to silence/ban in the forums is if they’re global, 1.5) the admins don’t see forums as a priority and aren’t about to change the way moderation works to suit the forums.

Yep, pretty much this.

specifically gevock who has been the champion of forum mods

I could be your hero baby.

take it upon ourselves the make the OT the best we can

Oi, someone suggesting people should proactively help their community instead of relying on three people to be around 24/7. Radical thoughts, dude. This is how revolutions start.

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Topic: Off-topic / I found Gevock

The rest of me was way hotter.

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Topic: Off-topic / what is your favorite color??

There are several instances of this thread made every week, so I’m going to lock this one.

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Topic: Off-topic / SPEEEDTEST THREAD

There are already plenty of old speedtest threads. Please use one of them instead.

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Topic: Off-topic / is it illegal to say variants of aguspal's name now?


Because it’s inappropriate. If you don’t get it, ask the administration.

I suppose mods work in mysterious ways…

Remember that there are more than just the mods. There are also administrators who may only check the flags page or not use forums all that often. I try to go into the thread of a flagged post and find more than just the flag. That’s time-consuming though, so other people may not.

meaning if we stopped flagging posts. . . the mods would forget about ot

No, but the active mods would have more to clean up and it’d be more likely that stuff past page two would be missed.

possibility of some users getting butthurt and trying to ‘get revenge’ by flagging posts that don’t deserve to be flagged…

Clearing flags is easy.

its fine but god forbid i call aguspal shucklepal

I have the funny feeling it wasn’t flagged. Link it or flag it and I’ll probably remove it.

It seems like it they are always at least somewhat random.

That’s because there are four differently active mods with different opinions. Think of it like trying to count cards in Las Vegas with the card pool being from four different decks. This isn’t including the earlier statement about random admins doing flags.

It shouldn’t be.

It actually should be. You can always ask the administrators about the actions of mods and they’re always happy to respond and hear your concerns.

I don’t understand how saying the word ‘shucklepel’ could result in a silence.

If you’re being silenced for forum behavior, I can guarantee that 99% of the time, it’s for more than one post. If you don’t know what other posts were inappropriate, I’m going to point you again to the administration.

Anyhow, as I said, I’m going to lock this.

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Topic: Off-topic / This forum is fucking boring.

Feel free to speak to the administration if you think I’ve made a mistake. Otherwise, keep threads appropriate please.

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Topic: Off-topic / I found Gevock

It’s dangerous to go alone!

Take these tissues.

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Topic: Off-topic / I found Gevock

I better be ripped.

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Topic: Off-topic / Why is gevock so full of himself?

Every time he locks a thread he changes the title so it’s all about him.

I do it to avoid OT becoming a billboard for harassment and self-absorption while avoiding the deletion of the thread. It also shows who locked the thread which I believe you all were wanting more of, right?

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Topic: Off-topic / What Happened OT?????

Flag the poor behavior. You should blame yourself as well if you’re ready to complain without actually helping however possible.

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Topic: Kongregate / Ban system is flawed

it erases the ability to draw a line – so when time comes TO draw the line, it’s incredibly hard and gets harder each time you do it. Especially when the instant reaction of a permaban is “I’ll just keep making a million alts, since if I make a main they’ll just ban that too.”

Quoting for truth. If they tried banning everyone that has poor behavior on OT, it would end like this, except times 30. It’s far, far too grey a place. Is spam worse than flaming? Is watered down harassment worse than constant over-the-top swearing? It’s not exactly easy to scratch your head and try to pick out the worst behavior so that you don’t completely wreck the forum.

Also the other two mods can’t ban; they can only report.

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Topic: Off-topic / the official cp thread

Locking because it’s not Captain Planet.

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Topic: Off-topic / The Official Furry Thread ;3

Follow the rules. It’s not that bad.

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Topic: Off-topic / Who is the STRONGEST in OT?

Currently, Fish. Zam might be into it, but he doesn’t have the size. Fish works hard and it shows. I’d put Hallu at second. Also no stranger to labor.

All-time though goes to TGH, as already suggested. Dude was professionally ripped.