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Topic: Serious Discussion / Do people always intentionally mean evil and harm when committing deviancy or crime?

Originally posted by GameCrazyKid:
Originally posted by Winnabago:

Sure are. And if they were just fighting for the sake of me and you, we wouldn’t have to pay them.

You are an awful human being. You expect them to risk their lives for the US and get no compensation?

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY in the army joins the army for the payroll. They get roughly 1300 $ a month gross pay.

Maybe you should get out of the country, because without these “murderers” there wouldn’t be a country to live in.

Except it isn’t for the US, as the people of America aren’t in danger.

Of course nobody joins for the pay. They join because it’s the only job open, or for the free college education. Hell, I’ve considered joining for that.

Maybe you should get out of the country, because without the sensible people like Winna there wouldn’t be a country to live in. Or if there was, it would essentially by a Christian Middle East.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

Nope. Marriage can be done by any licensed government official. Because marriage isn’t just a religious ceremony, it gives legal benefits and obligations. And no, they do not come solely from your religion. Most of Christianity is re-purposed paganism.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Do people always intentionally mean evil and harm when committing deviancy or crime?

Originally posted by GameCrazyKid:
Originally posted by Winnabago:
Originally posted by tj2mag:
Originally posted by Winnabago:
Originally posted by tj2mag:
They volunteered, have been trained, and you cannot say they are murderers.

Sure can, just did. Volunteering to murder is still murder.

Originally posted by tj2mag:
Would you say that the people fighting in Libya are murderers, because they kill Gaddafi’s forces?

Yup. Definitely.

A hitman doesn’t have to work for a crime syndicate. An individual, or any group really, can hire a hitman. And the fact that soldiers are legal hitmen doesn’t change much.

Sigh… No. A hit man is an assassin. No soldier is that by very definition. And a murderer is committing a crime. Did you read that bit? War is not a crime. It’s that simple. No soldier can be a murderer for doing his job, because a soldier’s job is not a crime, EVEN if it involves killing. So a soldier CANNOT be a murderer for hire, and is therefore not a hitman.

A hitman is an assassin? Prove it. I can hire a hitman to kill someone who isn’t a public figure.

That’s ridiculous. Just because what soldiers do isn’t called murder doesn’t stop it from being murder. It’s still, by definition, murder. It’s just legal.

So all our troops out there, fighting for their lives and ours, are murderers?

How are they fighting for your life? Is there any slight chance of the Taliban invading America? Have they stopped any terrorist attacks with the Iraqistan wars?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Do people always intentionally mean evil and harm when committing deviancy or crime?

Depends what you mean by “deviancy or crime”. Evil is completely relative to the observer. For example, I would not call going 65 in a 60 zone or pirating music evil.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

Originally posted by GameCrazyKid:
Originally posted by DarkBaron:
Originally posted by scoopolard:
Originally posted by DarkBaron:

Here are some arguments

That hopefully can persuade you that inbreeding is not as bad as you think

Just because it is stigmatized does not mean it is bad to do.

Granted, there are opinions against it

Which should show you that this is not a cut and dried issue.

Look man, I’m not saying incest is so terrible that it can single handedly destroy our species, I’m just saying that not engaging in incest is part of our society’s established moral code because it is capable of contributing to the demise of our species. DUH. God bless, the next big issue in America is going to be over the allowance of incestial marriages…which, thanks to the left’s lack of morals and common sense, is going to get a surprising amount of support…holy shit…i gotta get outta this country lol. so unbelievably, irreparably, fucked up.

Know what else is part of our society’s established moral code? Banning gay marriage, because, if gay people ran rampant, OUR SPECIES WOULD DIE1! … Yeah, this isn’t an argument from ignorance, or anything of the sort.

Banning gay marriage is not part of our moral code, or it would not be already legalized in a few states.

Facepalm.

If it’s not part of this “moral code”, and your only support for your side is “I don’t like it” and “the Bible says no”, why not allow it? It’s not like we’re forcing you to marry a guy.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

Originally posted by GameCrazyKid:

Anything you have to say after this point is no longer valid.

So he is no longer valid for stating a truth?

He’s no longer valid for abandoning all attempts at reasonable debate to launch attacks at an entire side of the political spectrum.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Each US state should be a separate country!

Wikipedia is not the topic of the current discussion :/

 

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

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Topic: Off-topic / 238 POSTS!

ARBITRARY POST NUMBERS WOOOO

 
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Topic: Off-topic / I want you to rate OT from 0 to 10.

0.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / separation of church and state

All governments should be faith-blind.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

So essentially GameCrazy’s argument is “I don’t like it, so nobody should be allowed to do it”.

In other news, I have banned the sale of broccoli “because it’s icky”

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Each US state should be a separate country!

You need to strike a balance. To be honest, the 2-Party system isn’t particularly free. I think you need at least 3-4 distinct parties for a balanced, democratic system to function correctly. Otherwise you’re always voting for the lesser evil.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Each US state should be a separate country!

Since this has descended into the briny depth of an anarchy debate; I’ll make a few points.

No pure strain of government can sustain itself; especially as the group being governed grows larger. Pure direct democracy ceases to function with large groups because of the sheer amount of voting required. Pure communism will never sustain itself because people are inherently greedy bastards. a pure tyranny will never hold power longer then a few leaders as oppression sets in and the people rise up. Anarchy is not exempt from this; in fact it is possibly the most susceptible.

People inherently want power and wealth. It’s in our blood, it’s a survival mechanism. It’s why most people choose having a job over scrapping by on welfare. An anarchy has no laws, and no government. However, in the human quest for power, a governing body of some sort or another will form. Be it a humanitarian group funded by donations or a sex-slave trading mega-corporation. The second one is notably more likely.

A second flaw in anarchy is it’s utter lack of checks and balances. A free market where everyone has a chance may seem like a libertarian’s wet dream, but it leads to WalMart Syndrome. Small businesses are destroyed by their larger competition, until only a single company (let’s call it Massive Dynamics) remains. At that point; there is no free market. A completely unrestricted market is unsustainable. In a normal government, regulations and anti-monopoly laws prevent Massive Dynamics from utterly destroying the economy and all the businesses in it. Without those laws, you get the picture.

Third is defense. A common Anarchist would say private corporations are the best defense. But are those not simply a government in themselves? They protect people, albeit for a fee. They enforce law and order, unless the criminal can pay higher then the person being defended.

And the final nail in the coffin is actually a lack of defense. Without a central governing body, PMCs will be disorganized and uncoordinated. If another country decides to step into the lawlessness and take it for itself; who will stop them?

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Off-Topic Regulars

I think the list may be a tad too long. OT doesn’t have that many regulars.

For example, Fuzzy doesn’t post often.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / New Rule

Saying someone is butthurt is “abuse towards an individual”

Can a mod please explain why they are so butthurt about butthurt?

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Obama

He’s not the best, but he’s certainly not the worst. He lacks the strength some presidents have however.

Overall 4/5 for trying

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Paste Challenge

1. It offends me or my religion.
2. Like condoms, oral sex, masturbation, or riding a 2 person bike, it isn’t natural, nor capable of making a baby.
3. I expect my religion to be used as a template for law.
4. I am homophobic and use words like “sanctity” to defend my insecurity.
5. Would kill the population if we don’t think about it too hard.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / What would be your dream band?

Moxy Fruvous + an acopela orchestra

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

I’ll shoot down your against arguments for you (although anyone should feel free to shoot down the for arguments if you believe that)

1. It offends me or my religion.

Separation of the Church and State exists for exactly this reason.

2. Like condoms, oral sex, masturbation, or riding a 2 person bike, it isn’t natural, nor capable of making a baby.

There’s millions of children with no parents, waiting to be adopted. Why make more?

3. I expect my religion to be used as a template for law.

I expect the Prime Minister to give me daily footrubs. This seems to have fallen through the cracks.

4. I am homophobic and use words like “sanctity” to defend my insecurity.

This one is a jab at the religious right directly; it shoots itself down.

5. Would kill the population if we don’t think about it too hard.

Nice balance for the billions of asians and indians

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Drivers Licenses given to illegal immigrants. Wow.

Isn’t it odd that of all the countries with high standards of living; America seems to have the most immigrant problems?

Maybe it’s time to rethink the whole “build giant fences” policy.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Mods are SO Butthurt

Originally posted by ButtSauce332:
Originally posted by CanadianUbermen:
Originally posted by ButtSauce332:

I think you’re butthurt.

Why would I be butthurt? I have plenty of alts.

Did your main get banned or an alt?

Main for 24h

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Lord of the rings ..or star wars

A planet of orcs and shit versus a galaxy; with the technology for faster then light travel. Oh, and weapons capable of utterly destroying said planet.

Obviously the orcs.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Mods are SO Butthurt

Originally posted by ButtSauce332:

I think you’re butthurt.

Why would I be butthurt? I have plenty of alts.

 

Topic: Off-topic / Mods are SO Butthurt

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