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Topic: Time World / Hey you, Playmage.

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Topic: Time World / Speed Clarification

Game applies equation to everyone:

[(BaseShipSpeed + HeroSpeedSkill + ShipDeviceSkill) x EnhanceSpeed x Nightmare ] / refID.

Therefore, the newer your account is (higher refID), the more likely you will fire 2nd.

Topic: Time World / Speed Clarification

Ok, I will show with equations, why Lolitops attacked first.
First, the “assumed” knowns:

Adelaine:
Speed tech: 30.
Speed skill: lvl 10 (giving 30 points to speed)
Ship class speed: 500 (Fighters)
Nightmare bonus: No.
Enhance Speed Boost: Yes ( +10%)

Lolitops:
Speed tech: 32.
Speed skill: lvl 5 (giving 15 points to speed)
Ship class speed: 500 (Fighters)
Nightmare bonus: No.
Enhance Speed Boost: Yes ( +10%)

Game applies equation to Adelaine:
BaseShipSpeed + [(HeroSpeedSkill + ShipDeviceSkill) x EnhanceSpeed]
500 + [(30 + 30) x 1.10] = 566

Game applies equation to Lolitops:
(BaseShipSpeed + HeroSpeedSkill + ShipDeviceSkill) x EnhanceSpeed
(500 + 15 + 32) x 1.10 = 601.7

601.7 > 566, therefore, Lolitops fires first.

I will point to 2 references that leads me to conclude that the game is simply using 2 different equations for the 2 different players. (References show that programming has been proven to be incorrect, and therefore, is probably not correct for the speed calculation either).

1. Old game mechanics used to have individual proc order for individual players.

Originally posted by playmage:

Update February 20, 2012

• Fixed active hero skills’ trigger order as follows: combo → multiple shots. dodge → repair. (previously, each hero’s check order is randomly determined at server restart)
  

2. Old game mechanics used to have individual’s MF’s destroyed before all others.

Originally posted by playmage:

We just patched a fix for a potential cause to this [referring to MF targeting bug]. Please send me a private message if you are still always being targeted more than your galaxy member all the time (please wait for a day or two for enough data).

Note, this possibly may cause players who almost never lose MF to start losing them when fighting strong teams (we just made the MF targeting completely random).

Conclusion: There have been bugs in the past, this is probably a bug now. Whoever is concerned about this, please report this speed inconsistency to playmage.

More thought: Perhaps when Adelaine used a Speed Boost, the game applied a Different Boost (or not boost at all), for her, the Attacker.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the case. And if this is the case, I would say it should not be this way. Speed Boost should be applied for both Attacker AND Defender, not just the Defender, if they both have the boost activated.

Topic: Time World / Speed Clarification

Originally posted by jab1432:

Hiya, sorry to have to go on this again, but speed doesn’t seem to work like people explained it.

I attacked Lolitops in G42 while they didn’t have NM and I had a speed buff active so that shouldn’t be a big deal.

His speed skill levels are all 5 while mine are all 10, so that means I would have 15 speed on him from skills but he has 2 levels of tech on me and we both use speed on fighters.

If speed tech only gave 1 point per level that would mean I should have out sped him, but his fighters got the first attack. Could you please clear up the numbers for speed?

So because he didn’t have NM and we both had the speed buff, if speed skill displays are accurate that would mean speed tech gives at least 8 points of speed per level which is pretty ridiculous imo.

Adelaine, I think you should send your battle report to PM and ask why Lolitops fired first.

Topic: Time World / Speed Clarification

Originally posted by jab1432:

Originally posted by boredpoo:

Ade said she and Loli both had speed buffs, unless I misread her first post.

waraxe it sounds like you had the same speed skill levels (except one is 4), and the only diff between you and loli was a tech level for speed device. If this is the case, of course you will go first (except the hero with speed skill 4, which I’d expect to go 2nd, unless there is a multiplier for speed device).

Was guessing he had a speed buff since he out sped me once when I didn’t use a buff lol =P. Seems speed tech is ridiculous lol, PM should definitely adjust it.

Without knowing the reason why you were outsped, I wouldn’t say speed tech is ridiculous nor would I say it needs adjusting.
However, I would say the method to determine who ultimately goes first DOES need to be revealed so that we the players can determine if the method is ridiculous and/or needs adjusting :)

Topic: Time World / Speed Clarification

Ade said she and Loli both had speed buffs, unless I misread her first post.

waraxe it sounds like you had the same speed skill levels (except one is 4), and the only diff between you and loli was a tech level for speed device. If this is the case, of course you will go first (except the hero with speed skill 4, which I’d expect to go 2nd, unless there is a multiplier for speed device – which is now what I’m thinking is the case.).

Topic: Time World / Speed Clarification

Now I think Speed Device gets a multiplier like 8x or 16x
(like 1 level of Construction gives 16 points to Build stat or something like that)
…and this multiplier only applies for calculating ships within the same class.
So therefore, the speed device cannot be used to have 1 class outspeed a naturally slower class.

So maybe equation is:
(BaseShipSpeed + HeroSpeedSkill + ShipDeviceSkill x 8]) x NightMare x EnhanceSpeed = Final Speed Score

Topic: Time World / Speed Clarification

Adelaine speed tech: 30.
Lolitops speed tech: 32.

To think out loud here:
Base ship speed of fighters: “Base Speed: 500”
Hero speed skill: “Ship speed increase by X” (where X is 3x the level. max lvl 10)
Ship device skill: “Increase ship speed” and “Fastest ship within the same class fires first each round”
Nightmare: “+10% Speed”
Enhance Speed (buff): “+10% ship’s speed”
Com: (somewhere in patch notes where: If speed calculations are same on both sides, he with higher COM fires first).

I would think it’s: (BaseShipSpeed + HeroSpeedSkill + ShipDeviceSkill) x NightMare x EnhanceSpeed

So for your case, I would have thought it was:
Adelaine:
(500+30+30) x 1 × 1.10 = 616

vs

Lolitops:
(500+15+32) x 1 × 1.10 = 601.7 (assume Lolitops has speed buff)

616 > 601.7, so Adelaine should fire first.

So the equation I have listed is not accurate.
But, what is accurate? Ans: Need Playmage to respond

Topic: Time World / PM dont you dare!

Originally posted by stalliga888:

Buildings and techs should be capped at some point.

Can you propose a new method than the currently implemented cap of current_chapter x 3 = max CC level?

Topic: Time World / Myths & Legends

Originally posted by Neokryton:

Originally posted by boredpoo:

Originally posted by Neokryton:

Originally posted by boredpoo:

Add to list:
There are no male heroes in taverns whose name starts with S through Z.

oO that’s interesting, Thx~!

Ur supposed to “get to the bottom of this”, not agree that it’s true! :O

will do boss. I didn’t agree by the way =p.

I there is not Blue or Purple with S-Z so far for the Male. Lotsa R tho. Might be a while to search through the White/Green database.

Remember to check the mythical/rumored Legendary Orange database while you’re at it.

Topic: Time World / Myths & Legends

Originally posted by Neokryton:

Originally posted by boredpoo:

Add to list:
There are no male heroes in taverns whose name starts with S through Z.

oO that’s interesting, Thx~!

Ur supposed to “get to the bottom of this”, not agree that it’s true! :O

Topic: Time World / GET RID OF EASTER ALREADY

Get Easter frags instead of other potentially valuable items, when opening chests.

Topic: Time World / Myths & Legends

Add to list:
There are no male heroes in taverns whose name starts with S through Z.

Topic: Time World / Building Rankings

Originally posted by stalliga888:

I believe the person who first attained the rank should be placed 1st and the person who achieved it 2nd be placed 2nd etc. Also the build rank should take into consideration the combined levels of all buildings rather than those that are highest. This would be a true representation of a persons build level. Simply adding the levels would do. Or 10 points for a level 1 building 20 for a level 2 building etc and add the point score. I think this would be a more valid way of quantifying a players build rank.

And do you propose that your new calculation of point score add to a player’s Power like the current point score does?

Topic: Time World / Building Rankings

Originally posted by playmage:

Originally posted by stalliga888:

If there are several players at the same ranking in build rank what decides who comes 1st? E.g Rank 30 – 37 all have the same build score of 2,990,000. What decides these rankings when score is the same?

Just got an answer from our devs on this. Currently, it’s based on reverse ascii order of the names, eg: z-to-a followed by Z-to-A. We may use something less silly in future updates, such as player’s internal account id (favoring older accounts).

How about putting them at the same rank value, just like the WoH tournament placings? (Example: There can be multiple people getting the 1st place prize, and those people’s rank appears as “1”).

Topic: Time World / ┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻

Originally posted by waraxe:

Originally posted by boredpoo:

Originally posted by waraxe:

Also, I didn’t have 6th planet at that time though :P.

Geez don’t you pay attention to the game’s plot? I am you from the future!
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

This game has a story????

If you look closely, this game also has a card meta-game.
(╯°□°）╯ ┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

Topic: Time World / ┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻

Originally posted by waraxe:

Also, I didn’t have 6th planet at that time though :P.

Geez don’t you pay attention to the game’s plot? I am you from the future!
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

Topic: Time World / ┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻

Originally posted by waraxe:

Originally posted by boredpoo:

This thread is now relevant to the game and should not be removed.
Thank you.
┬─┬ ノ( º _ º)ー ┬─┬

Your alt is showing ;). At least you aren’t breaking rules with it though. Other things could be said for some others.

What do you mean? You sent me that pic!
┬─┬ ノ( º _ º)ー ┬─┬

Topic: Time World / ┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻

This thread is now relevant to the game and should not be removed.
Thank you.
┬─┬ ノ( º _ º)ー ┬─┬

Topic: Time World / Feedback and Suggestions

Originally posted by nvillian:

Originally posted by dkwz:

Originally posted by waraxe:

CONFIRMATION BEFORE KICKING. I mean sure I sucked at clicking that moment but it pisses me off that there’s zero confirmation button to check this kind of crap.

Kicking didn’t get confirmation? Wow moment for PM as I get to confirm whenever I sell a lvl 5 green item.

don’t forget all the countless confirmations when trying to swap gear around.

Someone requested gear-change confirmations to be changed (like putting a checkbox to never show that confirmation again) but it didn’t get enough people saying something, so it didn’t get included in the patches. I’m disappointed.

Topic: Time World / Welcome To Time World! Now F*** off!

For every post you make, there is a chance you can improve the game.

Thank you for your feedback, there is a chance it will be taken into consideration.

In addition, with each of your posts that have successfully resulted in a game change, the chance of your future posts resulting in a game change diminishes.

Topic: Time World / In favor of 300M starting HP

Originally posted by playmage:

Update March 14, 2013

• Based on the feedback, all new pillars now will start with only 25% of maximum HP, at 150M.

Perhaps those who were in favor of 300M HP did not provide feedback so PM only heard those who were against it.
Is anyone other than myself in favor of 300M starting HP instead of 150M HP?
Even though there are less coupons, there is usually always a pillar to hit, so I don’t have to be on time at a specific time, like a chore (as Adelaine mentioned).

Topic: Time World / Myths & Legends

Originally posted by Neokryton:

well played.

What was well played? This isn’t WoH!

Topic: Time World / Myths & Legends

Originally posted by Neokryton:

Example: In the beginning Purple hero were myths does not exist!

Info: Was extremely rare to get, more common now with counter/H4

IIRC, PM said Purple was meant for those who pay premium, not obtainable other than with gold, but then changed it for release.

Originally posted by Neokryton:

Example: There are no male purple Veeren.

Info: TBD

Here is a very purple male Veeren:

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Now here’s mine:

1. GMB never automatically deletes messages, either from quantity or time. MSG will be there from the beginning of time until Lead/Vice deletes, or Galaxy no longer exists. There can be an infinite number of MSG on the board.

2. There is no maximum number of inventory slots. You can keep buying backpacks to expand it forever.

3. Once a galaxy is created, it always identifies the Founder as the original creator, even if the galaxy is abandoned or merged.

Topic: Time World / March Expansion

Mod is a Mu.