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Topic: Off-topic / Lets petition for Texas to be given back to Mexico

Originally posted by Pokarnor:

Also, cigarette smoke doesnt smell like rotting garbage, the main reason people are so repulsed by cigarette smoke is propaganda. 50 years ago, even the nonsmokers had nothing to complain about. People just say it smells bad because the tv says it smells bad..

When I was a little kid, the smell of my mom’s cigarette smoke smelled horrible, and that was before I even knew what cigarettes really were. I hadn’t seen any anti-cigarette commercials. So that’s just a stupid theory.

People that close their houses, and dont ventilate, and smoke nonstop day after day do smell bad, just like people who close their houses up and dont ventilate that dont smoke, but smelling a cigarette 10 feet or so from you at the park or something isnt going to kill you, and it doesnt smell that bad.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / You and I are stuck in a zombie apocalypse together

Originally posted by CanadianOverlord:

If you’re implying you could shoot straight with two guns, go try it. In real life, not Carl on Duty.

Im implying I could shoot straighter with two guns than the OP with one gun. I still shoot the straightest with one gun. After enough practice, aiming a handgun becomes instinctive though, like an extension of your arm. Shooting two handed isnt as hard as people think. You are mainly pointing with each arm.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Lets petition for Texas to be given back to Mexico

Originally posted by HappyYay:

gun control

I personally believe that people should be allow to own guns which goes against the common liberal view, so I will not argue this point.

speeding

Passing laws that save lives is not a bad thing. Being able to drive your car 100 miles an hour on a residential road is not a freedom we should have.

drinking

Example?

smoking

I very much dislike it when I walk past a smoker and catch a whiff of his smoke. I don’t want that smell to pervade even more places, thank you.

Modern cars are made to go about 75 miles an hour, that is a relatively safe speed for them, and going that speed on good road wont hurt anybody, and yet there are still people trying to keep the speed limit down at 55. Even back in the 70s, when the national speed limit was 75, there was no difference in traffic deaths when they went down to 55. If everyone wanted to be a coward about it, no one would drive over 30, because 30 is more than fast enough to be lethal.

Drinking? America is one of the only countries where people have to be 21, in most places it is 18, and in some places even 16.

Smoking might smell bad, but it is people’s right to do it in their own cars, their own property, and on the property of people who allow them to do it. Like bars, outlawing smoking in bars is about the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

Also, cigarette smoke doesnt smell like rotting garbage, the main reason people are so repulsed by cigarette smoke is propaganda. 50 years ago, even the nonsmokers had nothing to complain about. People just say it smells bad because the tv says it smells bad.. And, contrary to stupid belief, smelling someone who smokes will not give you lung cancer, you have to be in very close proximity to their actual cigarette smoke. I dont smoke, but I think the whole hate campaign to alienate people who do smoke is ridiculous. I think if we want to alienate people for smelling bad, we should go after people who waste money on expensive cologne.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Lets petition for Texas to be given back to Mexico

Originally posted by Darkir:

we wont have any radical conservative maniacs

I always knew radical conservatives could only possibly come from Texas

permits to have sex, and smoking cigarettes would become an offense punishable by death

You know those liberals, always trying to limit freedoms and advocate the death penalty

Aw, did I offend the internet liberal? Radical conversatives can come from everywhere, but there are a lot of them in Texas. Also, liberals try to limit freedoms all the time, gun control, speeding, drinking, smoking, etc. And liberals are only against killing people when it doesn’t suit their agenda, and when they cant choose who dies. And dont automatically lump me in with conservatives because of what I’m saying, because I’m an anarchist, I dont like either side.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / You and I are stuck in a zombie apocalypse together

Originally posted by HappyYay:
Originally posted by stupidheader:

I shoot you, and take your ammo. I find a basement, board it up, and eat your corpse for sustenance. I poke a hole in the hot water heater and set up some tubing for drinking water. Even with no running water on earth, chances are good that just about any random abandoned water heater is gonna still be full of water. It’s not like it’d go anywhere. Anyway, since the zombies would rot and fall apart in about a week, I could survive no problem.

You are a moron. You don’t need sustenance to survive until a long time after a week, and two guns is far better than one.

I didnt say I NEEDED sustenance. I would rather not be hungry though. Snacking staves off boredom. Also, 2 guns= gun for each hand. Safer than relying on somebody else, who probably couldnt shoot straight to save his life. I have hand gun experience. And with only 30 bullets, actually, it would be better just to use one gun, or youd be out of ammo in no time.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / You and and I are soldiers for the same army in WWIII, and we get stuck together behind enemy lines.

Originally posted by Pokarnor:
Originally posted by stupidheader:
Originally posted by Pokarnor:
Originally posted by HappyYay:
Originally posted by Pokarnor:
Originally posted by HappyYay:

Well, I have no idea to use a weapon…

I’d probably try to just fade into the nearest village and live my life as a simple whatever. You can come with me if you want.

But what if an enemy patrol unit comes through the village and finds you out?

How would they? I’d burn my uniform and all evidence at first opportunity.

Let’s say the enemy is China and they’ve been executing all Non-Chinese people.

Chinese people are pretty white, in fact, most of China and Japan are basically white, physically, and culturally, so that would be no problem to walk out of. Ethiopia on the other hand, would suck.

But the military would probably give you a DNA test to see if you’re Chinese, not to mention East Asians have very distinctive eyes.

You know how much it would cost for an army to DNA test EVERY person they thought might not be Chinese? Also, East Asian eyes= a little bit of tape on the temple, hair covering tape= good to go.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / You and I are stuck in a zombie apocalypse together

I shoot you, and take your ammo. I find a basement, board it up, and eat your corpse for sustenance. I poke a hole in the hot water heater and set up some tubing for drinking water. Even with no running water on earth, chances are good that just about any random abandoned water heater is gonna still be full of water. It’s not like it’d go anywhere. Anyway, since the zombies would rot and fall apart in about a week, I could survive no problem.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / You and and I are soldiers for the same army in WWIII, and we get stuck together behind enemy lines.

Originally posted by Pokarnor:
Originally posted by HappyYay:
Originally posted by Pokarnor:
Originally posted by HappyYay:

Well, I have no idea to use a weapon…

I’d probably try to just fade into the nearest village and live my life as a simple whatever. You can come with me if you want.

But what if an enemy patrol unit comes through the village and finds you out?

How would they? I’d burn my uniform and all evidence at first opportunity.

Let’s say the enemy is China and they’ve been executing all Non-Chinese people.

Chinese people are pretty white, in fact, most of China and Japan are basically white, physically, and culturally, so that would be no problem to walk out of. Ethiopia on the other hand, would suck.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / A frag RPG is flying toward you at 115 m/s

Originally posted by CanadianOverlord:

Point out how laughably inaccurate an RPG-7 is against a moving target at any range, the hit the deck.

^Kinda what I just said, but in a different format and context.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / You and and I are soldiers for the same army in WWIII, and we get stuck together behind enemy lines.

Basically, I think I could survive, but I would kill you, because you’d be nothing but a hang-up. I’d probably sell your organs on the black market, and sell the rest of you to the nearest butcher shop to make a bit of cash. Butcher shops will buy any kind of meat during war time. It happened in Nazi Germany a few times, people were cannibals without knowing it. Anyway, selling your corpse would make a few bucks, I’d buy some explosives, kill an enemy soldier, take his uniform, plant explosives all throughout the nearest town, and just walk out. THen once I was out, I’d blow the explosives, just for kicks.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Lets petition for Texas to be given back to Mexico

I would only sign that petition if Texas went as a package deal with California, New York, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Washington D.C.,New Jersey, Rhode Island, and Florida. Basically, all the states that politicians and dumbasses tend to come from. Give em to North Korea, for all I care. sadly, those extra states would never make it on the petition, because they have so many morons packed in those skyscrapers, city apartments, and suburb rat mazes, they win all the votes against them by majority.

If Texas goes by itself, we wont have any radical conservative maniacs to balance out the radical liberal maniacs, and we’d all end up applying for permits to have sex, and smoking cigarettes would become an offense punishable by death. You have to remember, there are lots of morons at both ends of the spectrum.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / A frag RPG is flying toward you at 115 m/s

115m/s…….. I’d jump right into it, and grab it. If it doesn’t hit something hard, it won’t explode, and my arms and chest arent very hard, so as long as I grab it right(not putting too much of my body in front of it),and roll with it once I’ve grabbed it, it shouldnt blow up. Then I’d just throw it away. Those things are meant for taking out vehicles, not individual humans. In reality, you’d have a hell of a time trying to kill a single guy with an RPG launcher. RPG vs Fast guy with BB gun= bb gun win.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Each US state should be a separate country!

Originally posted by vikaTae:
Originally posted by softest_voice:

Vika:
A valid point. But interstate commerce is still likely to be a factor. I sincerely doubt that it would cease completely.
And if there is any interstate commerce, there will likely be interstate trucking requirements.

It wouldn’t cease completely, no. However, it would be up in the air for a time, and the money to maintain those roads would have to come from somewhere. So, most likely they would be allowed to deteriorate naturally from what they are, then restrictions on tonnage or repairs done willy nilly to sections as budgetry constraints allowed.

A lot of the national trucking firms would be in trouble though, as they would have to negotiate crossing a half dozen country borders each trip, and getting to know all the various different laws and customs, which would vary widely quite quickly. So. shipping interstate would become a much more expensive proposition. Even more so when some of the new nations embargo some products and allow others, forcing a more circuitous route.

There would be a great deal more reliance on mining and manufacturing industry within each new country, and if the resources aren’t present in the same new country as the manufacturing, the manufacturing moves across international borders. A lot of reshuffling of jobs and positions thus.

Vika, a lot of national trucking firms are government funded anyway, so they would immediately go under. Then the monopoly they held over the trucking industry would be gone, and anyone with a truck would be able to make a bit of money transporting goods. Of course, though, everything you are saying is correct. I just don’t see any of it as a bad thing, they’re just the cycles a transforming country has to go through. And reshuffling jobs, and less outsourcing to countries on the other side of the world, sounds awesome to me. That really needs to be done.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Each US state should be a separate country!

Originally posted by Winnabago:

These thousands of people are on the road. They honk. They go “Dammit!” And then they realize the mercenaries have guns. They turn around. A few tell their friends. Most are scared to go after trained guys with guns. They find the guy with the bulldozer…oh wait. The road to Bob’s house is blocked too. Darn.

Anyway, Bob Bulldozer guy shows up and tries to knock over the roadblock: Play-by-play:
Mercenary 1: Hey, is that a bulldozer?
Mercenary 2: Yup. Boss? What’s the plan?
Boss: Bazooka the bastard.
Mercenary 1: Can we do that?
Boss: Yup. No government is great, huh?
Mercenary 1: Yeah! Go anarchy! (blam)

But let’s say you’re right. This worked, and the Americorp guys are gone.
Fred: Man, that was great!
Bob: Yeah, stickin’ it to the man!
Fred: I’m hungry.
Bob: Me too. Hey look, another rich guy!
Fred: Yeah, let’s take his food!

Repeat until no rich guys are left. It’s like mob rule, but with actual mobs!

“You want another bad government moneydump? Alright….SETI. Wellfare. Nuclear Weapons. Supercolliders. The Vietnam War. The Cold War. The Great Wall of China. The Sphinx. The Notre Dame Cathedral. The Taj Mahal. The White House. All of these projects cost a fortune, none of them really helped anybody, and they all happened, just because the governments that made them were able to. I can give you more if you want.”
“These are bad government projects! Thus, government projects are bad!”

Doesn’t that just prove that how government projects are done needs reform?

Also: how did government form in the first place, if people won’t form government if they’re used to not having it?

Why can only mercenaries have guns? Guns are a basic right. Even under the government the US is under right now. And if the mercenaries are gonna be stuck at that roadblock, what I’d do is just take a long range rifle, and sit down the road a ways and pick them off until they decide that whatever they are being paid is not enough. It was done by russian peasants when the Russian forces tried to take over, it’s worked before.
Also, just becuase there is no government doesnt mean that the same exact things wouldnt happen. If a guy is willing to shoot someone with a bazooka, he’s gooing to do it whether there is government or not, and if he did while there was government, he’d get stormed by a bunch of cops, arrested, and thrown in jail. Whereas, with no government, he’s going to get stormed by a bunch of angry citizens, likely the kind of people that would have become cops in a governed country, he might get arrested, or he might get shot. Either way, justice prevails.

So….no rich guys is a bad thing? Anyway,again, if people are going to steal food from rich guys, they are going to do it whether there is a government or not. And they will be dealt with as the people see fit. And before you go off about how the people dont have the right to judge, there is a reason people in the US have to the right to a trial by a jury of their peers.

EDIT: You are missing the point. If people are going to break regulation, they are going to do it with, or without government. Also, monopolies are a problem with and without government as well. In an anarchy, they are not as profitable though.
Also, as long as there is land, there will never be a monopoly on farming. Anybody can do it. And people dont normally steal farmer’s crops. If they were going to, they would do THAT with, or without government as well. If the farmers try to starve the people, then the people are going to get desperate, and steal the farmer’s crops, again, which they would do WITH, or WITHOUT government. The only difference is, WITH government, they would get arrested for trying to stay alive, starve to death, and the farmer would get a nifty little government grant to make his farm bigger.
You are talking in circles. Farmers bother planting because they can sell their food. If they are giong to refuse to sell their food, why would they plant THEN?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Each US state should be a separate country!

Originally posted by Winnabago:

A simple blacktop road won’t be enough when a car crashes. Then you have to move it out of the way, and who knows what you’ll do with the body.

Or, for example, where would you put your garbage?

What if several local farms decided to stop selling to your town?

What if the coal for electricity you get from far away is cut off?

What if there’s a famine?

There’s a reason we have a highly integrated economy. You can’t just hope for the best, because with no regulation, shit will go wrong.

The economy does not rely on the government. That’s the great thing about capitalism. Our economy IS basically an anarchist economy. Also, the garbage company can be a private company, farms are definitely private companies, coal mines are privately owned, hospitals are private, prisons can be private, construction companies can be private. It wasn’t that long ago that all of those things were privately owned, except prisons, and it wasnt that long ago than none of those things, even prisons, were getting paid by the government. And who is to say there cant be regulation? Anarchy just means there is no ultimate ruler. Companies and people can get together and decide that they expect certain standards of quality from certain people. ANd if they don’t get them, they can go to someone else. Without the government funding, all of the companies will be equal, and will be able to keep up with each other.
Also, a farmer could decide to stop selling to a certain town, but it wouldn’t benefit him in any way, and the town could find plenty of other farmers. And if they got hungry enough, they could steal the farmer’s crops. Sure, it’s not nice, but if it’s necessary, that’s what will happen. It happens with government, and it will happen without government. There is no political system that will be completely perfect. That’s what communism claimed to be, and that turned out to be a pipe dream, because all the power was given to ONE guy…

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Each US state should be a separate country!

Originally posted by Winnabago:
Originally posted by stupidheader:
Originally posted by TheAwsomeOpossum:

Winnabago has a good point. Roads, and pipelines (like for gas and stuff) are a bit of a problem… There isn’t a persay ‘universal’ code for roads and pipes, is there? Or maybe there is… not sure. We’d have to look at the trade-agreements (between Mexico and/or Canada?), I think.

The road system might not be as extensive as it is right now, because people really don’t need as many roads as the US has, but people will always want to be able to visit people on the other side of the country by car, and so there will always be roads. In fact, road construction is already basically a private business. The government pays the money, but private companies are the ones that actually build the roads. Same goes for pipelines, and electrical lines.

Or perhaps they won’t, if AmeriCorp decides to get some mercenaries and set up a roadblock.

You say government will never re-form because people won’t let it, used to no government. So why did people make government in the first place?

K, see what you mean about states rights. However, united we stand, divided we fall.

“Yeah, governments are good at building things. Take the Egyptian pyramids for instance. They are useless, they took years and years of forced labor, and they exist solely due to the arrogance of a few pharaohs. Now USEFUL building projects, well, they don’t require government.”
Retarded example. We don’t have a theocracy or a monarchy or pyramid equivalents. Just picking a random bad government project doesn’t prove government projects are bad.

Ok,lets say Americorp does put a few mercenaries on a road, and causes a roadblock. The thousands of people that use that road are likely to get pissed, and they might even tell their friends. They go find the guy with a bulldozer that helped build the road in the first place, and they plow through the roadblock, and run the Americorp guys out of the country.

You want another bad government moneydump? Alright….SETI. Wellfare. Nuclear Weapons. Supercolliders. The Vietnam War. The Cold War. The Great Wall of China. The Sphinx. The Notre Dame Cathedral. The Taj Mahal. The White House. All of these projects cost a fortune, none of them really helped anybody, and they all happened, just because the governments that made them were able to. I can give you more if you want.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Each US state should be a separate country!

Originally posted by softest_voice:

…“The government pays the money, but…”

Where, pray tell, does all that funding come from once the centralized government isn’t there to wrangle it, exactly?
And please, if you’re response is going to be something along the lines of “well, without all those taxes we’ll all have lots more money!”, be prepared to prove that for me.

Considering the fact that US money is basically just worthless green paper, with value only because the government says it has value, while 50 years ago, it actually HAD a gold backing value, I’d say the central government hasn’t wrangled anything, as much as it has just outright manipulated people for its own greedy purposes. (it’s easier to get more money if you dont have to get more gold with it). That’s why inflation is so bad in America. The goddamn government wont stop printing money to fill the pockets of people whose pockets are already overflowing.

Also, the average person pays about 40 percent of their income for taxes, about 5 percent of which will go to a worthy cause, while the other 35 percent will go to building giant instruments of death, or other equally worthless causes. So, yeah, I would say less taxes would be nice, or at least, a government that put it’s taxes to good use.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Each US state should be a separate country!

Originally posted by Winnabago:
Originally posted by Spaghedeity:
People can build roads, but not with zero help. Why would people abandon their jobs to build roads? The road will probably be okay tomorrow. And maybe the day after that. Until it isn’t.

Because people would need them, the same reason people built things for thousands of years.

Problem is, it’s possible to destroy mass media, and destroy communication, meaning widespread revolt is difficult.

No, it’s rather difficult when you don’t have a monopoly on force.

Yet they normally had management to do so. In fact, that’s probably a lot of why government developed. To build stuff.

Monopolies would be easy to get, when there’s no regulation.

Originally posted by stupidheader:

I’m gonna get attacked for this just because of the negative connotations attached to the word, but a Confederacy, as opposed to a Democracy, would give individual states much more freedom, and still allow everybody to be citizens of the Confederated States of America. The power needs to be allocated towards the people, and away from the rich bureaucrats running the show right now.

States=/=people.

Yeah, governments are good at building things. Take the Egyptian pyramids for instance. They are useless, they took years and years of forced labor, and they exist solely due to the arrogance of a few pharaohs. Now USEFUL building projects, well, they don’t require government.
States=closer to people than Federal Government is. Think about it. The fewer branches there are, the more direct control the people have over their rulers, as long as the branches are divided enough to allow people of certain places to have their way without stomping all over people of other far away places.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Each US state should be a separate country!

Originally posted by TheAwsomeOpossum:

Winnabago has a good point. Roads, and pipelines (like for gas and stuff) are a bit of a problem… There isn’t a persay ‘universal’ code for roads and pipes, is there? Or maybe there is… not sure. We’d have to look at the trade-agreements (between Mexico and/or Canada?), I think.

The road system might not be as extensive as it is right now, because people really don’t need as many roads as the US has, but people will always want to be able to visit people on the other side of the country by car, and so there will always be roads. In fact, road construction is already basically a private business. The government pays the money, but private companies are the ones that actually build the roads. Same goes for pipelines, and electrical lines.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Each US state should be a separate country!

I’m gonna get attacked for this just because of the negative connotations attached to the word, but a Confederacy, as opposed to a Democracy, would give individual states much more freedom, and still allow everybody to be citizens of the Confederated States of America. The power needs to be allocated towards the people, and away from the rich bureaucrats running the show right now.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / AX: Lizard People

Originally posted by alecz127:

reptiles get heat from there environment, come on… how easy is it to turn on a heat lamp, or have a portable body heater, or walk out on sunny day in florida disguised..

But as soon as they left the heat they would fall asleep, so they would be limited to a very small area. It would take a LOT of energy to heat an area large enough for an entire civilization of lizard people to survive.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Each US state should be a separate country!

Originally posted by Winnabago:
Originally posted by Spaghedeity:

The fact that it would be incredibly bad for business?

Assuming you let people know about it. Not like transportation’s very good, what with there being no government to build roads.

What’s to stop someone from setting up another government, a totalitarian or theocratic one?

People can build roads. It’s not hard. If someone wants a road, they can usually get a road, with or without government help.

Also, the people would stop someone from setting up another government. Once people are used to living without a government, they wouldn’t take kindly to someone trying to force them to do things all of a sudden. Mass media is key to anarchy, and if everyone knew about some guy trying to take over, he would instantly become public enemy number 1.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Each US state should be a separate country!

Originally posted by vikaTae:
Originally posted by Spaghedeity:

Really? You mean there are no anarchist societies anywhere?

No, there actually aren’t. Even amoeba work together to some extent. Every organised body depends on cooperation.

Originally posted by stupidheader:
I just defend the christians in here every now and then, because they are bullied constantly.

Only the ones who could not put an argument together with both hands. Their arguments are torn to shreds in short order.

Originally posted by Winnabago:

How would you enforce those in your anarchy?

The same way it is always enforced in short-lived anarchist attempts. Brute force. Whoever has the most force dominates. That of course inevitably leads to a hierarchy forming, and organisation over time.

Since when is cooperation the opposite of anarchy? Do amoeba have kings and dictators that force them to do things? Also, another great example of anarchy would be the internet.

No, you can tell yourself that, but it’s a pretty well known fact that any christian in sd is going to be attacked at one point or another. Often they aren’t even making arguments. It could be in a forum about president obama’s tax policies, and if some guy mentions that he’s christian, he will immediately be flamed to a crisp, and the thread will be completely derailed.

Also, people with force can only dominate if other people allow themselves to be dominated. The US is vastly superior to Vietnam, and we completely lost that war.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Each US state should be a separate country!

Originally posted by Winnabago:

How would you enforce those in your anarchy?

The Bill of Rights? People can enforce them themselves. If you don’t understand that, go out and try and force everyone in your town to think the same way. Americans are used to the Bill of Rights, they are an integral part of our daily lives, and anyone who tried to take them away would be pulverized almost instantly.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Each US state should be a separate country!

Originally posted by Spaghedeity:

You’re an anarchist now? That’s cute. I wasn’t aware you could be both a Christian an an anarchist simultaneously.

I’ve always been an anarchist. And I’m not a Christian, I’m a deist. I don’t have anything to do with organized religion. I just defend the christians in here every now and then, because they are bullied constantly.