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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage: A Great Loss for Moralism

I could ask the same on the particular group of people begging for gay marriage.

Well a quick google suggests that 63% of the population is in favour of gay marriage that at least makes it democratic. In a few months this will likely rise to 66% which could even allow for a constitutional if that had been neccessary (it isn’t/wasn’t).


Discriminatory? Homosexuality is fine, but the license of their marriage likewise ‘discriminates’ others. In the manner that it ignores their tradition which is just as discriminatory. Not for me though, instead I merely find it disgusting

care to elaborate on this?


The relativism of morals. Needless to say that morals are the foundation of social and natural order.

Care to explain what moral is being severed and how this moral is the basis of society? Currently all you are saying is that it’s bad because it’s not moral (moral meaning it’s bad) so the reason it’s bad is because it’s bad?

If people (not dickweeds) regularly shift notions of what is ‘normal and natural’, then there is no strong sense of ‘normal and unnatural’. If constitutions operates like this, then it offers no definite ‘rights and freedoms’ and would as well license us to do anything. About ‘equal justice’: All justices are equal. Not all equalities are just.

if a majority of the population is in favour of something and it is supported by the constitution and the pressident is in favour then there really is nothing against it. If you believe that there is no reason to even change morals and what is “normal and natural” then perhaps you wish to go back to slavery or back towards being an english colony?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage: A Great Loss for Moralism

People whose main identifity is rightwing conservative above all else make up 1% , maybe 2% of our society. I too would be happy to leave them alone if they left me and mine alone. The problem is they want to be noticed and they want to be in your face with their hatred. They are prodded by those who feel good if they can find a cause to rally around. Conservative is the name given to them. Watch the political leanings of these people on this board. They want discrimination, feel themselves better then those who are worse of then them. Forced childbirth (No matter if it was rape) etc. It goes on and on and if you disagree they call you names. They want laws to make you and I do what they demand because they can live your life better than you can. Most of the conservatives (Republicans) on this forum actually wish for tyranny. they feel they should be able to pursue what they want and someone else pay for it.

It’s interesting how little you have to change to flip jhco’s messages around.

Wargamer I too worry about human’s unnatural tendencies after all can you give me some examples of animals who attack pairs of other members of their species specifially because they are homesexual? We have plenty of examples of animals being gay but I don’t think there is any animal that becomes extra aggresive because of it.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Please Welcome Serious Discussion's New Forum Mod

Welcome, let’s hope you will last longer then the moderators that came before you.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Give me your tired, your poor

Asking wolfram alpha suggested the following:
the cost of accepting an assylum seeker is around 10.000 euro, the cost of cancer treatment is an average of 100.000 per year.
The total number of asylum seekers is currently around 700.000 per year for the total european union. There are aproximitly 700 million people in the EU (745 actually) so that means that accepting every asylum seeker would cost a total of 1000 euro per person per year. That does not seem like a value that would collapse the econemy in fact I would argue that rather then sending warships to sink these refugees it might be more cost effective to just elliminate some expensive type of healhcare (or better yet try to care for one another and just pay the exra 1000 euro).

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Give me your tired, your poor

There is also a reason why few of the life boats of the titanic were loaded with over half their capacity, and that they decided to “pick up people once they had cooled down” which resulted in many unnecessary deaths tell people that they might suffer if they aid others and they will do whatever they can to avoid aiding others even if they are nowhere near the limit.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Rate the song above you. V.2

3/10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_0BapT0mOQ&index=16&

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Give me your tired, your poor

I think that the economic problems are made worse by constant cost cutting. I believe strongly in anti cyclic spending that means that once a recesion starts governements should increase spending so as to encourage people to keep spending as well and to keep the economy running. Then once the econemy has recovered they start cutting costs again to save up money for the next recession. I also think that especially imigrants are also the group least likely to keep really long term savings that are so damaging to the econemy.

As far as computational intelligence is concerned I’m not sure how they would fit in here. These systems often work best when given a massive amount of data from various people in simulair situations (or just one person in the same situation). Otherwise you can use big data and put it into a expert system (why not?).
I would also keep them far away from imigration and such system seeing as how increddibly racist I have seen some of these systems become (they graps at any short cut they can find and if they can somehow deduce a persons race and the underlying system is not entirely fair they will be worse).

And why would such a system need a dirrect neural connection? What is wrong with how we do these things now? For example I have a system build into my laptop that listens to any conversation I have and uses text to speach and then searches for relevant information and displays this, this works quite nice but I wouldn’t want it piped straight into my brain (I can only imagen the headache that would cause).

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / True Christianity

You mean st Peter’s keys(which give him and the pope the power to forbid or allow things within the catholic belief system)? Or do you have another interpretation? It’s useful to know that before you declare that all others are wrong you yourself are correct. And did you really have to dig up a topic from 2009?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Should anti-vax people be banned from traveling and having children?

CROW you are missing the most important reason in my mind: if you can vaccinate a sufficiently large portion of the population then the disease goes extinct and we can all stop vaccinating.

That said I do believe we have a certain right to refuse medication/vaccination based on the simple fact that the sanctuary of the body is something that should not be reduced unless via court order in individual cases. (ideally we would educate those who refuse vaccinations so that they see why they should get them).

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Socialist President Obama wants to give away free college for community college prospects.

I think that it’s a great idea to provide free education to all especially during a crisis as during a crisis a lot of people go unemployed and if these people get an education they can continue their career rather then fall behind and out of the system due to being jobless for several year (not gaining any experience) and then being outdone by younger people. Additionally the US education system if famously expensive to attend and making it more affordable could benefit the economy in the long term.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Perfect example why the USA is broken. ( A must read! )

Note that this is very much a temporaly sollution, they are allowed to pay very little for their house the next 5 months after that they will have to start paying for their house again or more to a house that is cheaper or go back in to negative.
The fact that the student lown is also not going down also means that there is no room for improvement in the future rather then just asking both your bosses for a 200 dollar/month pay improvement.

And by the way to me those seem like very lausy payments for people with a master’s degree. I can easily earn 25 euro (= 30 dollar) per hour working just 10 hours a week as a student(mid bacheler)(this compared to your 41000/46 (vacation)/6 / 10= 15 dollar per hour quite low).

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / AX: Cultural drift, circa 2115 AD

I see atheism/agnosticism taking over as a lot more likely. Maybe that is because it’s’ the dominant point of view (religion?) in my home country but it seems to me that the more people don’t openly believe in a god the fewer people will feel that it’s needed to believe in a god.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / How do I stop punks showing shame to war memorial with skateboarding

Have you considered actually talking with them in a calm tone? Point out that you view these war memorials as important to you and to others. And that they are doing damage to them by skating on them. Then try to think with them for another place they can skate on, if you cannot think of any help them petition for another place. The fact that they called the cops when you broke their board rather then knife you suggests they do have respect for the official channels so maybe you can help yourself and them trough the democratic channels.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why does the US government hate crypto currency/silk road?

This generation os crypto currencies is quite well protected against to “counterfitting” it’s not something you can do that easily. The one thing you can do is achieve more then 50% of the market and at which point you get to decide which transactions are and which aren’t vallid. However the more widespread the more difficult it is to own 50% of the system. As far as how easy it is to “lose” bitcoins well that depends. It’s effecitlfy little else other then a text documents a string of characters that you are yourself responsible for keeping safe. You can do this by for example encryping and backing up your bitcoins. As for sites going down I suspect that soon the banks might be willing to join in on the fun or that regulations will begin to appear for bitcoin sites (banks). Currently these sites are functioning just like the banks but as there are no regulations these sites tend to die quite a lot.

Still don’t buy drugs unless you have a prescription and are damm sure what you are buying is on your prescription (how I don’t know but if you find a way to be sure…).

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Question Regarding Internet

Originally posted by vikaTae:

Unless you plan to transfer files from your friend’s computer to your own, you’ll be fine. The two computers aren’t networked, they are just sharing an internet connection.

Isn’t that rather dependent on how he has his computers networked? If they allow anyone who connects to upload a file to some kind of shared folder then that can become an attack vector for some computer worms.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Now from the government! Pay per mile!

Originally posted by greentunnel:

this tracking bullshit is dangerous. i dont want to be tracked. just raise the gas tax and use technology to force prius and electric car owners to pay more.

How about just making electricity a bit more expensive or just giving electric cars a tax break until the majority of the public uses them. Seems better for the environment.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Should intelligent animals be given more rights?????????

I sometimes wonder how much of this is due to the current social situation. Losing connection with other humans is a lot easier so someone who is depressed might retract more from others or be forced to act in a way they don’t feel causing more unhappyness and thus creating a positive (that’s in this case very negative)feedback loop. This combined with the fact that people worry about the future and if they feel bad they might see the future as worse resulting in them feeling even worse (another positive feedback loop). Just my theory(this is not really my area of expertise anymore).

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Values in the gaming industry.

Let’s also not forget that “pleasure” is a vague concept. Maybe I enjoy playing as a character who shares my beliefs values and morals? It’s also rather unclear what point you are arguing, are you arguing that we cannot gain anything from games except fun? I think my current understanding of economics, game theory, English,tactics and history have something to say about that. Or are you arguing that other people’s morals shouldn’t interfere with your fun? Situations such as Australia banning a large number of games. My view on this is that despite a lot bloody games not being that interesting ( look blood, now be shocked, you were shocked you had fun</bland voice>) they still should not be censored as you should never censor any medium(and yes that is my belief for all media).

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Now from the government! Pay per mile!

I would favour a higher fuel tax. Both because it promotes cleaner cars and because it better protects privacy. It’s not unlikely that we will end up with variable tariffs on road tax depended on time and this will end up favouring gps. And as bigger cars use more fuel and require more of the road (more wear and tear from a large SUV then a smart) it makes sense to me to just tax the fuel.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

They quarantine the sick people so if you are sick then you either refuse any medical care or will be quarantined. The moment they hear one of dissease they want to have under control has broken out they will try to collect all the sick people, that is anyone who asked for medicial attention. Now I do hope you are smart enough not to refuse medicial attention if you were to contract a potentially deadly or disabling dissease.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

I estimate there are only about 100 000 free proxies/tor noder exit nodes/ whatever avaible after that you have to pay for it. So if kong decided to ban all trolls and ban all provides of dynamic IP than within a few months most of these free options would run dry preventing new trolls from showing up (and permantly blocking up all public internet places…).

By the way internet access is not technically consided a human right, it’s just that blocking it is considered a way of reducing several other rights(very close but not quite the same thing). And they only advice against states blocking internet access not against companies.


i can take my family to the cabin for 6 months its stocked with 3 years of food and water plus meds plus guns its quite comfortable as well. we cant get the flu if we dont interact with people while its raging

The problem is that many of these vacinated dissease are rather well hidden. Just a few cases every year because almost all people are vacinated. You just suddenly have an outbreak of several dozen people who get sick. So you would need to be aware of the outbreak before the authorities otherwise they will quaratine the area and you will not be able to avoid getting sick as all the sick people have been issolated (sorry if I’m not making sense it’s time for bed).

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Charity begins at home...

Consider whatever or not it could be more effective to teach local teachers, I’m sure you know that children have some difficulty with constantly switching teachers and the chaos that brings so it might be better to instead prepare to teach a number of local teacher so they can be more effective in teacher the children over a longer time.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Should intelligent animals be given more rights?????????

Basic fact is that animal cruelty laws protect certain rights. These rights might not be “the right to vote” but instead the right not to be treated unecessary cruel. This is a right we give to a large number of annimals as well as humans. However we do not really apply them equally. Many will state that someone doing what the girl in the video did is wrong and should be punished, however few will state that someone killing mosquitous should be jailed. So where is the line? What is important in these disctictions? Is it intelligence? (what does this mean for pigs?) Is it social behaviour? Is it cuteness?

Being a great ape already has quite a few legal implications in a few areas of the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_ape_personhood .

Overal the most interesting animals in these discussions are of course the great apes, the ocotpi, the pigs, the dogs and the humans.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Should intelligent animals be given more rights?????????

ButLiberal question:
is something like this http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/31/girl-sparks-animal-activi_n_701011.html something you believe is within the law? Should it be? If you answer any of those two questions with yes then you do believe in certain annimal righs. Now as I think most people have no trouble swatting musquitous but trowing pupies into a river seems wrong there must be a something that makes certain species of annimals have more rights then others. What is that something?

Oh by the way how do you view chimpansees that have learned to talk by hand gestures and symbol cards?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

There are the yearly flu shots and there are the vacinations that protect against dissease for (almost) life. The flu shots work poorly because the flu is able to mutate quickly making it hard to vacinate against as every year you effectifly have to protect against several new disease. But several other disease have been almost completly wiped out (Polio, measles). Refusing such a vacination risks setting back this efford for several years.
And are you suggesting that when a dissease occurs it’s a good idea to let socciety break down completly as everyone heads to the woods? That sounds like a great way of making matters worse.