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    <body>bq. That&#8217;s actually a good idea. Can you think of any upgrades for it? Maybe in the beginning it only builds spikes, and when upgraded it can build glue and bananas.

Upgrading from spikes to glue or banana's is really a downgrade in my opinion.

P.S. Check your whispers.</body>
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&lt;p&gt;That&#8217;s actually a good idea. Can you think of any upgrades for it? Maybe in the beginning it only builds spikes, and when upgraded it can build glue and bananas.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Upgrading from spikes to glue or banana&amp;#8217;s is really a downgrade in my opinion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P.S. Check your whispers.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/2/topics/65676?page=1#posts-1480808'&gt;AnotherRandomKid&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;This thread belongs to the soviet union.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.deskflags.com/country/1006003.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In soviet russia, soviet union belongs to thread.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/2/topics/65676?page=1#posts-1480808&quot;&gt;AnotherRandomKid&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;This thread belongs to the soviet union.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.deskflags.com/country/1006003.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In soviet russia, soviet union belongs to thread.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
    <created-at type="datetime">2009-11-20T18:57:05-08:00</created-at>
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    <body>!http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q293/crazyplayer512/Heroesbackground.jpg!</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q293/crazyplayer512/Heroesbackground.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
    <created-at type="datetime">2009-11-20T18:52:20-08:00</created-at>
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    <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/2/topics/65646?page=3#posts-1480116'&gt;TerribleToaster&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/2/topics/65646?page=2#posts-1480105&quot;&gt;RenagadeMuffen&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#8226;RenagadeMuffen: 5S 5B 5A 4M&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thats not right toast its a sword not a mase dont got no mase&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fixed :P and updated.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I gave you an axe TerribleToaster. :D.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/2/topics/65646?page=3#posts-1480116&quot;&gt;TerribleToaster&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/2/topics/65646?page=2#posts-1480105&quot;&gt;RenagadeMuffen&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#8226;RenagadeMuffen: 5S 5B 5A 4M&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thats not right toast its a sword not a mase dont got no mase&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fixed :P and updated.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I gave you an axe TerribleToaster. :D.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>I still think this isn't the real Vanguarde.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;I still think this isn&amp;#8217;t the real Vanguarde.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
    <created-at type="datetime">2009-11-20T14:51:34-08:00</created-at>
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    <body>The difference between /b/ and SD is SD has more trolls.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;The difference between /b/ and SD is SD has more trolls.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
    <created-at type="datetime">2009-11-19T19:26:16-08:00</created-at>
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    <body>10000? It's over nine thousand!</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;10000? It&amp;#8217;s over nine thousand!&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
    <created-at type="datetime">2009-11-19T17:26:32-08:00</created-at>
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    <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/9/topics/65219?page=2#posts-1475705'&gt;1132&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;No. But it is so true.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Proof?</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/9/topics/65219?page=2#posts-1475705&quot;&gt;1132&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;No. But it is so true.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Proof?&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>bq. &#8220;Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.&#8221;
~Benjamin Franklin

A quote of an opinion does not make an argument.</body>
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&lt;p&gt;&#8220;Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.&#8221;&lt;br /&gt;
~Benjamin Franklin&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A quote of an opinion does not make an argument.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
    <created-at type="datetime">2009-11-18T18:43:24-08:00</created-at>
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    <body>Batman's picture didn't change.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/2/topics/65348?page=5#posts-1474322'&gt;TerribleToaster&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/2/topics/65348?page=5#posts-1474319&quot;&gt;MoopsiePook&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;Spiderman is from Marvel.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THANK&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;YOU&lt;/span&gt;!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How would anyone know that?</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;Batman&amp;#8217;s picture didn&amp;#8217;t change.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/2/topics/65348?page=5#posts-1474322&quot;&gt;TerribleToaster&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/2/topics/65348?page=5#posts-1474319&quot;&gt;MoopsiePook&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;Spiderman is from Marvel.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THANK&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;YOU&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How would anyone know that?&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/2/topics/65348?page=5#posts-1474306'&gt;zamininc&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;Superman isn&amp;#8217;t named after an animal.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/2/topics/65348?page=5#posts-1474306&quot;&gt;zamininc&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;Superman isn&amp;#8217;t named after an animal.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>Superman isn't named after an animal.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;Superman isn&amp;#8217;t named after an animal.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
    <created-at type="datetime">2009-11-18T12:51:40-08:00</created-at>
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    <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/2/topics/65348?page=4#posts-1474271'&gt;TerribleToaster&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/2/topics/65348?page=4#posts-1474268&quot;&gt;MoopsiePook&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well I had another answer, he had his and I had mine.&lt;br /&gt;
So I technically wasn&amp;#8217;t late, but mario was.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/denied_encino_man.gif&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The second one is a girl.

I win?</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/2/topics/65348?page=4#posts-1474271&quot;&gt;TerribleToaster&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/2/topics/65348?page=4#posts-1474268&quot;&gt;MoopsiePook&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well I had another answer, he had his and I had mine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
So I technically wasn&amp;#8217;t late, but mario was.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/denied_encino_man.gif&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The second one is a girl.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I win?&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>Brooklyn rage!</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;Brooklyn rage!&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/9/topics/33708?page=42#posts-1473112'&gt;Aneslayer&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;not in the least. i am a tank in likan form. an awesome, atheist, psychic, pro choice tank whose caps button has swine flu.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#8230;. *your* shift key too? Awwwwww&amp;#8230;..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You have impressive claims, too bad you are not smart enough to change your keyboard&amp;#8230;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

!http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/ausador/IronyMeterSplode.jpg!</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/9/topics/33708?page=42#posts-1473112&quot;&gt;Aneslayer&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;p&gt;not in the least. i am a tank in likan form. an awesome, atheist, psychic, pro choice tank whose caps button has swine flu.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#8230;. &lt;strong&gt;your&lt;/strong&gt; shift key too? Awwwwww&amp;#8230;..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You have impressive claims, too bad you are not smart enough to change your keyboard&amp;#8230;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/ausador/IronyMeterSplode.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>Lightbulb.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;Lightbulb.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/9/topics/64504?page=5#posts-1472085'&gt;1132&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;Way to contribute to stereotypes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/9/topics/64504?page=3#posts-1459973'&gt;1132&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/9/topics/64504?page=3#posts-1458522&quot;&gt;zamininc&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/9/topics/64504?page=3#posts-1458264&quot;&gt;1132&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;A hillbilly can hunt and fish. Would you want a hillbilly as president?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What&amp;#8217;s wrong with living in the hills?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#8217;m talking stereotypical, fat, lazy, El Camino driving hillbilly. I guess I&amp;#8217;m thinking more &amp;#8220;redneck&amp;#8221; than hillbilly.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Were you trying to be a hypocrite?</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/9/topics/64504?page=5#posts-1472085&quot;&gt;1132&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;Way to contribute to stereotypes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/9/topics/64504?page=3#posts-1459973&quot;&gt;1132&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/9/topics/64504?page=3#posts-1458522&quot;&gt;zamininc&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/9/topics/64504?page=3#posts-1458264&quot;&gt;1132&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;A hillbilly can hunt and fish. Would you want a hillbilly as president?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What&amp;#8217;s wrong with living in the hills?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#8217;m talking stereotypical, fat, lazy, El Camino driving hillbilly. I guess I&amp;#8217;m thinking more &amp;#8220;redneck&amp;#8221; than hillbilly.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Were you trying to be a hypocrite?&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>I'd suggest alot bigger of a punishment then that.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#8217;d suggest alot bigger of a punishment then that.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>The lag makes it unplayable.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;The lag makes it unplayable.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>bq. If you can&#8217;t explain your logic, don&#8217;t expect your claims to have any worth.

I'm trying my best to. 

bq. This idea, and all your others were already shown to be terrible in another thread. Do we really need to rehash it here?

Wrong, opinions were the only thing they said. Thinking privacy and a quote from someone is an argument.</body>
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&lt;p&gt;If you can&#8217;t explain your logic, don&#8217;t expect your claims to have any worth.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#8217;m trying my best to.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This idea, and all your others were already shown to be terrible in another thread. Do we really need to rehash it here?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wrong, opinions were the only thing they said. Thinking privacy and a quote from someone is an argument.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>bq. You generally have to explain how when stating something like that.

Well, we clearly have different opinions.

bq. I don&#8217;t see how it could work perfectly, as you can never be sure if a punishment is on the right guy.

Well another one of my ideas was to put camera's everywhere and recording 24/7. Not watching 24/7 but only watching where a crime has been commited and at the time.</body>
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&lt;p&gt;You generally have to explain how when stating something like that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, we clearly have different opinions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don&#8217;t see how it could work perfectly, as you can never be sure if a punishment is on the right guy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well another one of my ideas was to put camera&amp;#8217;s everywhere and recording 24/7. Not watching 24/7 but only watching where a crime has been commited and at the time.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>bq. Things aren&#8217;t so because you claim them to be.

You're asking me to describe a thing that can't be put into words. Expect a bad answer.

bq. &#8230; I was going to ask you what the fuck you think trolling is, but then I realized asking the accused to define the crime is incredibly stupid.

Read the edit.

bq. Not in all situations, but there&#8217;s only two to name. One in which you have the advantage of surprise and one in which you don&#8217;t. In the former, it wouldn&#8217;t matter if you had a gun or a club, you could take out your attacker (as long as you don&#8217;t have shitty aim or the strength of a crippled mouse). In the latter, it either does not matter which weapon you use since the attacker may harm you first, or the attacker does not intend to hurt you, in which case I don&#8217;t know why you should do the same.

This is running in circles.

bq. Keywords being &#8220;could have&#8221;. I&#8217;ve heard of many messed up cases where the robber was attacked or killed and the one who was robbed was given an enormous punishment for attacking first.

They shouldn't have gotton a punishment for defending their home.

bq. You intend to reinstate the death penalty? Didn&#8217;t we remove that for certain reasons?

I don't see how a post on a gaming forum's debate forum will change that.

And by certain reasons you mean they could be innocent. For this to work perfectly all my ideas would have to be put in place.</body>
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&lt;p&gt;Things aren&#8217;t so because you claim them to be.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You&amp;#8217;re asking me to describe a thing that can&amp;#8217;t be put into words. Expect a bad answer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#8230; I was going to ask you what the fuck you think trolling is, but then I realized asking the accused to define the crime is incredibly stupid.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Read the edit.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not in all situations, but there&#8217;s only two to name. One in which you have the advantage of surprise and one in which you don&#8217;t. In the former, it wouldn&#8217;t matter if you had a gun or a club, you could take out your attacker (as long as you don&#8217;t have shitty aim or the strength of a crippled mouse). In the latter, it either does not matter which weapon you use since the attacker may harm you first, or the attacker does not intend to hurt you, in which case I don&#8217;t know why you should do the same.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is running in circles.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Keywords being &#8220;could have&#8221;. I&#8217;ve heard of many messed up cases where the robber was attacked or killed and the one who was robbed was given an enormous punishment for attacking first.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They shouldn&amp;#8217;t have gotton a punishment for defending their home.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You intend to reinstate the death penalty? Didn&#8217;t we remove that for certain reasons?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#8217;t see how a post on a gaming forum&amp;#8217;s debate forum will change that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And by certain reasons you mean they could be innocent. For this to work perfectly all my ideas would have to be put in place.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>bq. Sure, you see it that way. But does everybody? How do you draw the line.

It's very easy to draw a line. It's very easy to see the difference between something like rape and trolling.

bq. How is it different? In both cases we&#8217;re arbitrarily executing people based on personal dislike for a behavior.

Trolling does not effect other people as bad as those. I've been trolled many times. It does not effect me nearly as much as those other things would.</body>
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&lt;p&gt;Sure, you see it that way. But does everybody? How do you draw the line.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#8217;s very easy to draw a line. It&amp;#8217;s very easy to see the difference between something like rape and trolling.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How is it different? In both cases we&#8217;re arbitrarily executing people based on personal dislike for a behavior.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Trolling does not effect other people as bad as those. I&amp;#8217;ve been trolled many times. It does not effect me nearly as much as those other things would.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/9/topics/24763?page=13#posts-1467371'&gt;Iggyshark&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For serious crimes they should.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We should start killing because you say so?  What if I say we should kill all forum trolls?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There's a gigantic difference.

Making a law that all future people who commit rape/robs/all serious crimes be put to death is way different then doing the same to forum trolls. If you're going to compare them you might as well want to put a big stamp on your avatar that says &quot;Troll.&quot;</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/9/topics/24763?page=13#posts-1467371&quot;&gt;Iggyshark&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For serious crimes they should.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We should start killing because you say so?  What if I say we should kill all forum trolls?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#8217;s a gigantic difference.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Making a law that all future people who commit rape/robs/all serious crimes be put to death is way different then doing the same to forum trolls. If you&amp;#8217;re going to compare them you might as well want to put a big stamp on your avatar that says &amp;#8220;Troll.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>bq. I&#8217;d say a knife is pretty effective

You argue it's as effective as a gun, gun has longer range. It can't be as effective.

bq. going around killing people is what gets you into prison.

Stop acting as if they would go around doing that. They're defending themselves. The robber could have a gun or a knife.

bq. Let&#8217;s kill off every prisoner. They might go after our family because we happened to be the target of their pick-pocket actions.

For serious crimes they should.</body>
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&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;d say a knife is pretty effective&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You argue it&amp;#8217;s as effective as a gun, gun has longer range. It can&amp;#8217;t be as effective.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;going around killing people is what gets you into prison.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Stop acting as if they would go around doing that. They&amp;#8217;re defending themselves. The robber could have a gun or a knife.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let&#8217;s kill off every prisoner. They might go after our family because we happened to be the target of their pick-pocket actions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For serious crimes they should.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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