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    <body>!http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/88/lichking.png! !http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6210/catastrophe.png!

As you can see, this is the card template I'm going to use for the Avatars, Relics and Taboos.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/88/lichking.png&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt; &lt;img src=&quot;http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6210/catastrophe.png&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As you can see, this is the card template I&amp;#8217;m going to use for the Avatars, Relics and Taboos.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>What does the ROFLZ stand for? The LOLZ stands for Ludicrously Oversized Lightning Zeppelin.

BTW, your BANANAS sounds a lot like my APE, which stands for Atomic Planetary Extirpator, and it can only fire once.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;What does the &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;ROFLZ&lt;/span&gt; stand for? The &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;LOLZ&lt;/span&gt; stands for Ludicrously Oversized Lightning Zeppelin.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;BTW&lt;/span&gt;, your &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;BANANAS&lt;/span&gt; sounds a lot like my &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;APE&lt;/span&gt;, which stands for Atomic Planetary Extirpator, and it can only fire once.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>OK... Multiple weapons per element could be a good idea...

LOL, the Spoon is a funny weapon. I may add it to the featured ideas section.

@Revi_M_Fadli: I already have 12 Avatars. I do not need any more.

All right, Min. I'll change that card's name to Implanter for now. As for the Taboos, they're freaking 20-quanta spells, and you can only have 3 DIFFERENT Taboos in your deck max. Maybe they're overpowered, but you'll NEED them when you fight the Overgod, who has INIFINITE quanta AND cards.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;OK&amp;#8230; Multiple weapons per element could be a good idea&amp;#8230;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;LOL&lt;/span&gt;, the Spoon is a funny weapon. I may add it to the featured ideas section.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;@Revi_M_Fadli: I already have 12 Avatars. I do not need any more.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All right, Min. I&amp;#8217;ll change that card&amp;#8217;s name to Implanter for now. As for the Taboos, they&amp;#8217;re freaking 20-quanta spells, and you can only have 3 &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;DIFFERENT&lt;/span&gt; Taboos in your deck max. Maybe they&amp;#8217;re overpowered, but you&amp;#8217;ll &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;NEED&lt;/span&gt; them when you fight the Overgod, who has &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;INIFINITE&lt;/span&gt; quanta &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;AND&lt;/span&gt; cards.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/22/topics/64548?page=1#posts-1484686'&gt;Scaredgirl&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;I came into this thread expecting bad ideas so I could say something like &amp;quot;Maybe you should change the title to &amp;#8220;2 Good ideas and 6 bad ones&amp;#8221;?&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I have to say I like all these ideas. Especially #6.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good job.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

SG, most people here are n00bs. I don't expect them to be able to understand your sarcasm.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/22/topics/64548?page=1#posts-1484686&quot;&gt;Scaredgirl&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;I came into this thread expecting bad ideas so I could say something like &amp;quot;Maybe you should change the title to &amp;#8220;2 Good ideas and 6 bad ones&amp;#8221;?&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I have to say I like all these ideas. Especially #6.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good job.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SG, most people here are n00bs. I don&amp;#8217;t expect them to be able to understand your sarcasm.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>I would hate it if there are bloons that can damage your tower. That'll just be too annoying, and in later levels it'll be absolutely lethal.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;I would hate it if there are bloons that can damage your tower. That&amp;#8217;ll just be too annoying, and in later levels it&amp;#8217;ll be absolutely lethal.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/22/topics/50610?page=24#posts-1483472'&gt;Obsidian25&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;OK here&amp;#8217;s another idea, and if this has been brought up forgive me&amp;#8230; how about access to your graveyard. be able to see what you have already played or what has been destroyed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think that would be very hard to program. It would require a complete overhaul of the entire game. It would be good if the game has a sequel.

Min, what do I use to replace The Deviate? Do I have to use Yggdrasil again...? I can't use &quot;Tree of Life&quot; because there is already the Demon of Life.

BTW, did you notice? Demon of Life is supposed to be the opposite of Angel of Death.

And what do you think about the Relics and Taboos? Suggestions?

Some ideas about the Relics and Taboos:

*Twin Mirror*: Permanent (20 Quanta) [RELIC]
Whenever you are attacked, create a Mirage (X/0). X is the strength of the attack you received.

*Catastrophe*: Spell (20 Quanta) [TABOO]
Destroy all enemy creatures.

*Macroseism*: Spell (20 Quanta) [TABOO]
Destroy all enemy permanents.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/22/topics/50610?page=24#posts-1483472&quot;&gt;Obsidian25&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;OK here&amp;#8217;s another idea, and if this has been brought up forgive me&amp;#8230; how about access to your graveyard. be able to see what you have already played or what has been destroyed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that would be very hard to program. It would require a complete overhaul of the entire game. It would be good if the game has a sequel.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Min, what do I use to replace The Deviate? Do I have to use Yggdrasil again&amp;#8230;? I can&amp;#8217;t use &amp;#8220;Tree of Life&amp;#8221; because there is already the Demon of Life.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;BTW&lt;/span&gt;, did you notice? Demon of Life is supposed to be the opposite of Angel of Death.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And what do you think about the Relics and Taboos? Suggestions?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some ideas about the Relics and Taboos:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Twin Mirror&lt;/strong&gt;: Permanent (20 Quanta) [&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;RELIC&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
Whenever you are attacked, create a Mirage (X/0). X is the strength of the attack you received.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Catastrophe&lt;/strong&gt;: Spell (20 Quanta) [&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;TABOO&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
Destroy all enemy creatures.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Macroseism&lt;/strong&gt;: Spell (20 Quanta) [&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;TABOO&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
Destroy all enemy permanents.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>No, I mean that the Taboos and Relics should all be embodiments of certain strategies, NOT elements.

For example:

*Tempor Fortis*: Permanent (20 Quanta) [RELIC]
All creatures you control gain ==+1/+1== at the end of your turn.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;No, I mean that the Taboos and Relics should all be embodiments of certain strategies, &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;NOT&lt;/span&gt; elements.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For example:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Tempor Fortis&lt;/strong&gt;: Permanent (20 Quanta) [&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;RELIC&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
All creatures you control gain +1/+1 at the end of your turn.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>If the Avatars are colorless creatures, then the Relics should be colorless permanents and Taboos should be colorless spells. They should all embody certain strategies instead of themes.

So... Each Demigod should have one Avatar, one Relic, and one Taboo...</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;If the Avatars are colorless creatures, then the Relics should be colorless permanents and Taboos should be colorless spells. They should all embody certain strategies instead of themes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So&amp;#8230; Each Demigod should have one Avatar, one Relic, and one Taboo&amp;#8230;&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>When upgraded, it can build spikes AND glue AND bananas and such...</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;When upgraded, it can build spikes &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;AND&lt;/span&gt; glue &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;AND&lt;/span&gt; bananas and such&amp;#8230;&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>bq. OMG &#8211; Overlord of Michanic Gods &#8211; Carries 3 of all balloons

I think THIS is impossible to beat. Seeing that you used my idea of diamond and iron bloons, I assume that you're also using my LOLZ and IT'S OVER 9000. If this thing contains THREE of everything other than itself, then it contains three The Bloon and three everything else. That's more than 81000 of RBE you'd have to pop. That is not possible to beat.

bq. Construction Crew &#8211; Builds things such as walls, spikes, pinnaples and puts it randomly arund the map.

That's actually a good idea. Can you think of any upgrades for it? Maybe in the beginning it only builds spikes, and when upgraded it can build glue and bananas.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;OMG&lt;/span&gt; &#8211; Overlord of Michanic Gods &#8211; Carries 3 of all balloons&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THIS&lt;/span&gt; is impossible to beat. Seeing that you used my idea of diamond and iron bloons, I assume that you&amp;#8217;re also using my &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;LOLZ&lt;/span&gt; and IT&amp;#8217;S &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;OVER&lt;/span&gt; 9000. If this thing contains &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THREE&lt;/span&gt; of everything other than itself, then it contains three The Bloon and three everything else. That&amp;#8217;s more than 81000 of &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;RBE&lt;/span&gt; you&amp;#8217;d have to pop. That is not possible to beat.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Construction Crew &#8211; Builds things such as walls, spikes, pinnaples and puts it randomly arund the map.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#8217;s actually a good idea. Can you think of any upgrades for it? Maybe in the beginning it only builds spikes, and when upgraded it can build glue and bananas.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>Well, the guy was ejected into the Sun, so I think he was actually in space...

And still, I don't think he killed himself due to loneliness. In the beginning he said too much noise, and when he dies, he said silence. That just doesn't fit with suicide-due-to-being-alone scenario.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;Well, the guy was ejected into the Sun, so I think he was actually in space&amp;#8230;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And still, I don&amp;#8217;t think he killed himself due to loneliness. In the beginning he said too much noise, and when he dies, he said silence. That just doesn&amp;#8217;t fit with suicide-due-to-being-alone scenario.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/22/topics/50610?page=24#posts-1481908'&gt;Minnakht&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;#8230;Fireflies, like all other&amp;#8230; insects, don&amp;#8217;t have Kings. The Queen is just the one of the very few females in the nest, and she just copulates with random males and then eats them or whatever, they&amp;#8217;re insignificant. Dang.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I remember the same thing you said in Amorphous+ ideas: &quot;GLOOPLES HAV NO KINGZ CUZ TEH KWEEN IZ TEH ONLY 1&quot;... But well, yeah, in insect nests, there are no kings, only queens.

Min, can you help me think of a better name for The Deviate? It's a creature that replaces other creatures' abilities with Growth.

Or maybe I should change the Hero Cards to the Avatars or something, and they're owned by the Demigods, level 7 opponents; because the Demigods are half-divine, they can manifest avatars in the material world. If I use Avatars instead of Hero Cards, then I think I should use something like Greek names for those cards.

And yeah, Relics could also be good. There could be three sets of ultra-rare cards:

*Avatars*: The physical manifestions of the Demigods in the material plane.
*Relics*: Powerful ancient artifacts left by the Demigods in the material world.
*Taboos*: Forbidden spells in which only the Demigods or higher can cast.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/22/topics/50610?page=24#posts-1481908&quot;&gt;Minnakht&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;#8230;Fireflies, like all other&amp;#8230; insects, don&amp;#8217;t have Kings. The Queen is just the one of the very few females in the nest, and she just copulates with random males and then eats them or whatever, they&amp;#8217;re insignificant. Dang.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I remember the same thing you said in Amorphous+ ideas: &amp;#8220;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;GLOOPLES&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;HAV&lt;/span&gt; NO &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;KINGZ&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;CUZ&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;TEH&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;KWEEN&lt;/span&gt; IZ &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;TEH&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;ONLY&lt;/span&gt; 1&amp;#8221;&amp;#8230; But well, yeah, in insect nests, there are no kings, only queens.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Min, can you help me think of a better name for The Deviate? It&amp;#8217;s a creature that replaces other creatures&amp;#8217; abilities with Growth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or maybe I should change the Hero Cards to the Avatars or something, and they&amp;#8217;re owned by the Demigods, level 7 opponents; because the Demigods are half-divine, they can manifest avatars in the material world. If I use Avatars instead of Hero Cards, then I think I should use something like Greek names for those cards.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And yeah, Relics could also be good. There could be three sets of ultra-rare cards:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Avatars&lt;/strong&gt;: The physical manifestions of the Demigods in the material plane.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Relics&lt;/strong&gt;: Powerful ancient artifacts left by the Demigods in the material world.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Taboos&lt;/strong&gt;: Forbidden spells in which only the Demigods or higher can cast.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>Well, I did give credit to you for coming up with the &quot;Hero Cards&quot; name and the Hero Quests; I forgot to put that on the first page, so I'll do that now, and I'll add a link to your thread.

But really, for the abilities of the colorless set of Hero Cards, I did not steal them. What made you think I stole them? As I said, I just thought of a bunch of abilities that would fit certain strategies. For example, I just happened to give Empathy, Vampire and Drain Life to one creature; it's not that hard to make up such a creature, and I have no doubt that some people have thought of this before or after I've thought of it.

And if you still feel that I copied you with that &quot;Chosen One&quot; card, then I'll change it to the following:

*The Deviate*: 3/3 (20 Quanta)
Stimulant (3 Quanta): The target creature's ability is replaced by &quot;Growth&quot; for 2 of its corresponding element.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;Well, I did give credit to you for coming up with the &amp;#8220;Hero Cards&amp;#8221; name and the Hero Quests; I forgot to put that on the first page, so I&amp;#8217;ll do that now, and I&amp;#8217;ll add a link to your thread.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But really, for the abilities of the colorless set of Hero Cards, I did not steal them. What made you think I stole them? As I said, I just thought of a bunch of abilities that would fit certain strategies. For example, I just happened to give Empathy, Vampire and Drain Life to one creature; it&amp;#8217;s not that hard to make up such a creature, and I have no doubt that some people have thought of this before or after I&amp;#8217;ve thought of it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And if you still feel that I copied you with that &amp;#8220;Chosen One&amp;#8221; card, then I&amp;#8217;ll change it to the following:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Deviate&lt;/strong&gt;: 3/3 (20 Quanta)&lt;br /&gt;
Stimulant (3 Quanta): The target creature&amp;#8217;s ability is replaced by &amp;#8220;Growth&amp;#8221; for 2 of its corresponding element.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>Carados, why do you even bother with those people? It's obvious that they're new here, looking at their post counts of 1; you can't expect them to read the thread. I'm annoyed by them, and there is obviously no use in telling them to read and think before posting. So why do you even bother?</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;Carados, why do you even bother with those people? It&amp;#8217;s obvious that they&amp;#8217;re new here, looking at their post counts of 1; you can&amp;#8217;t expect them to read the thread. I&amp;#8217;m annoyed by them, and there is obviously no use in telling them to read and think before posting. So why do you even bother?&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>@Nicholas:

I don't want to discuss about the lag. I do not care about the lag. This thread is just for ideas.

And I think you overestimate the strength of the BFB. It has only about 2000 or so RBE. The MOAB has about 600. The IT'S OVER 9000 is meant to have a bit more than 9000 RBE, not 50000. The Bloon contains one of everything, so its RBE will only be somewhere around 18000. Definitely NOT a big number compared to some of the later levels in BTD4.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;@Nicholas:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#8217;t want to discuss about the lag. I do not care about the lag. This thread is just for ideas.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I think you overestimate the strength of the &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;BFB&lt;/span&gt;. It has only about 2000 or so &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;RBE&lt;/span&gt;. The &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;MOAB&lt;/span&gt; has about 600. The IT&amp;#8217;S &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;OVER&lt;/span&gt; 9000 is meant to have a bit more than 9000 &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;RBE&lt;/span&gt;, not 50000. The Bloon contains one of everything, so its &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;RBE&lt;/span&gt; will only be somewhere around 18000. Definitely &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;NOT&lt;/span&gt; a big number compared to some of the later levels in BTD4.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>*double post because if I don't, textile breaks down and the previous post becomes a wall of text*

Found it. It was on page 7. No edits; if you don't believe me, ask Minnakht. Really, there is no point for me to forge all those evidence; what can I possibly achieve with that?
http://www.kongregate.com/forums/22-elements/topics/50610-ideas-for-elements-ccg-destructive-criticism-will-be-ignored?page=7
The above page was my second, failed attempt at making Hero Cards; my first attempt, the God Cards (named after the 12 Zodiac), were on the Ideas page on the Wiki. The below page was my third attempt at making Hero Cards, the colorless set:
http://www.kongregate.com/forums/22-elements/topics/50610-ideas-for-elements-ccg-destructive-criticism-will-be-ignored?page=11
On page 12 was the completed set of colorless Hero Cards. As you can see, they're not balanced. The ones edited on the first post are the balanced ones.

So, my point is, I did not plagiarize your Hero Cards idea. I made sure that I DIDN'T plagiarize. I specifically said that the cards were originally thought of by you.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;double post because if I don&amp;#8217;t, textile breaks down and the previous post becomes a wall of text&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Found it. It was on page 7. No edits; if you don&amp;#8217;t believe me, ask Minnakht. Really, there is no point for me to forge all those evidence; what can I possibly achieve with that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kongregate.com/forums/22-elements/topics/50610-ideas-for-elements-ccg-destructive-criticism-will-be-ignored?page=7&quot;&gt;http://www.kongregate.com/forums/22-elements/topics/50610-ideas-for-elements-ccg-destructive-criticism-will-be-ignored?page=7&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The above page was my second, failed attempt at making Hero Cards; my first attempt, the God Cards (named after the 12 Zodiac), were on the Ideas page on the Wiki. The below page was my third attempt at making Hero Cards, the colorless set:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kongregate.com/forums/22-elements/topics/50610-ideas-for-elements-ccg-destructive-criticism-will-be-ignored?page=11&quot;&gt;http://www.kongregate.com/forums/22-elements/topics/50610-ideas-for-elements-ccg-destructive-criticism-will-be-ignored?page=11&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
On page 12 was the completed set of colorless Hero Cards. As you can see, they&amp;#8217;re not balanced. The ones edited on the first post are the balanced ones.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, my point is, I did not plagiarize your Hero Cards idea. I made sure that I DIDN&amp;#8217;T plagiarize. I specifically said that the cards were originally thought of by you.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/22/topics/50610?page=24#posts-1480177'&gt;Scaredgirl&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lol, looks like Bloodshadow is a thief. :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I came up with this idea of Hero cards long time ago on official forums. Here is the link: &lt;a href=&quot;http://elementstheforum.smfforfree3.com/index.php/topic,444.0.html&quot;&gt;http://elementstheforum.smfforfree3.com/index.php/topic,444.0.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bloodshadow copy-pasted most of &amp;#8220;his ideas&amp;#8221; straight from that thread. He even used some of the same names like &amp;#8220;Chosen One&amp;#8221;, and most of those other card ideas are stolen from other people on other threads.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#8217;m guessing he has been editing that first post because of the time stamp.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pretty pathetic, Bloodshadow.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Uh... Yeah. About that. I actually mentioned somewhere around... hmm... page 11 or something in this thread, that the Hero Cards are originally thought of by you, SG, and I'm just inspired by them. I swear I did not edit THAT; if you want proof, ask Minnakht (aka Bobcamel in the official forum). I just put my version of the Hero Cards on the first page so that more people can see it.

And no, I am not a thief, and I did not steal ability ideas. There is such a thing in the world as &quot;coincidence&quot;. When I made my version of the Hero Cards, I tried to make each of them reflect a single strategy instead of an element. That's why they're all costing generic quanta, and they each have multiple abilities. I didn't copy from anyone, I just compiled and/or modified a bunch of abilities from the game, and put them into creatures.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/22/topics/50610?page=24#posts-1480177&quot;&gt;Scaredgirl&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lol, looks like Bloodshadow is a thief. :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I came up with this idea of Hero cards long time ago on official forums. Here is the link: &lt;a href=&quot;http://elementstheforum.smfforfree3.com/index.php/topic,444.0.html&quot;&gt;http://elementstheforum.smfforfree3.com/index.php/topic,444.0.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bloodshadow copy-pasted most of &amp;#8220;his ideas&amp;#8221; straight from that thread. He even used some of the same names like &amp;#8220;Chosen One&amp;#8221;, and most of those other card ideas are stolen from other people on other threads.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#8217;m guessing he has been editing that first post because of the time stamp.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pretty pathetic, Bloodshadow.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Uh&amp;#8230; Yeah. About that. I actually mentioned somewhere around&amp;#8230; hmm&amp;#8230; page 11 or something in this thread, that the Hero Cards are originally thought of by you, SG, and I&amp;#8217;m just inspired by them. I swear I did not edit &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THAT&lt;/span&gt;; if you want proof, ask Minnakht (aka Bobcamel in the official forum). I just put my version of the Hero Cards on the first page so that more people can see it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And no, I am not a thief, and I did not steal ability ideas. There is such a thing in the world as &amp;#8220;coincidence&amp;#8221;. When I made my version of the Hero Cards, I tried to make each of them reflect a single strategy instead of an element. That&amp;#8217;s why they&amp;#8217;re all costing generic quanta, and they each have multiple abilities. I didn&amp;#8217;t copy from anyone, I just compiled and/or modified a bunch of abilities from the game, and put them into creatures.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>The template is in the official forum, but the forum is down right now. If you don't know where the forum is, google it.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;The template is in the official forum, but the forum is down right now. If you don&amp;#8217;t know where the forum is, google it.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>If you're out of ideas, then don't think any more. I have no intention to see your failed attempts.

!http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/7677/bloodshadow.png!

My member card, made using Scaredgirl's templates in the official forum. For some reasons, the forum is down right now. Maybe it's under a DoS attack again...</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;If you&amp;#8217;re out of ideas, then don&amp;#8217;t think any more. I have no intention to see your failed attempts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/7677/bloodshadow.png&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My member card, made using Scaredgirl&amp;#8217;s templates in the official forum. For some reasons, the forum is down right now. Maybe it&amp;#8217;s under a DoS attack again&amp;#8230;&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/3/topics/62686?page=1#posts-1473934'&gt;Flooded&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;Has Chris (NinjaKiwi) released a date for BTD4 coming to Kongregate? Or has he mentioned anything about it coming or not coming to Kong? I just want to know because it is my favourite TD game. :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It's likely that it'll never be on Kong, because all the premium stuff costs MochiCoins. I know it sucks, but unless they change MochiCoins to Kreds or take out all the premium stuff, it's never gonna be on Kong.

New idea: Maybe the maps could be larger than one screen. On the top right corner, you can get a view of the entire map; bloons will be shown as red dots and your towers will be shown as green dots. This could lead to much more strategic placements... And the super weapon below:

*A.P.E.*: Stands for Atomic Planetary Extirpator. It is a BOMB that can be UPGRADED. Initially, it will just be a gigantic energy wave that wipes out all bloons on screen. Remember, it's not the entire MAP, but the entire SCREEN. If your map is larger than the screen, then there will be bloons left over.
_Firestorm_: Outside the blast area of the energy wave will be a ring of immensely hot flames that deal extreme heat damage to all bloons.
_Shockwave_: Outside the area of the nuclear fire, all bloons will be dealt high physical damage.
_Radiation_: After the energy wave, nuclear fire and shockwave have dissipated, inside the blast area of the energy wave will be an area of residual radiation, poisoning all monkeys inside for a period of time.
_Nuclear Winter_: After all previous effects of the A.P.E have worn off, a nuclear winter will be triggered, slowing all bloons in the entire map by 75%; one random bloon will be frozen per second.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/3/topics/62686?page=1#posts-1473934&quot;&gt;Flooded&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;Has Chris (NinjaKiwi) released a date for BTD4 coming to Kongregate? Or has he mentioned anything about it coming or not coming to Kong? I just want to know because it is my favourite TD game. :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#8217;s likely that it&amp;#8217;ll never be on Kong, because all the premium stuff costs MochiCoins. I know it sucks, but unless they change MochiCoins to Kreds or take out all the premium stuff, it&amp;#8217;s never gonna be on Kong.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;New idea: Maybe the maps could be larger than one screen. On the top right corner, you can get a view of the entire map; bloons will be shown as red dots and your towers will be shown as green dots. This could lead to much more strategic placements&amp;#8230; And the super weapon below:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A.P.E.&lt;/strong&gt;: Stands for Atomic Planetary Extirpator. It is a &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;BOMB&lt;/span&gt; that can be &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;UPGRADED&lt;/span&gt;. Initially, it will just be a gigantic energy wave that wipes out all bloons on screen. Remember, it&amp;#8217;s not the entire &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;MAP&lt;/span&gt;, but the entire &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;SCREEN&lt;/span&gt;. If your map is larger than the screen, then there will be bloons left over.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Firestorm&lt;/em&gt;: Outside the blast area of the energy wave will be a ring of immensely hot flames that deal extreme heat damage to all bloons.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Shockwave&lt;/em&gt;: Outside the area of the nuclear fire, all bloons will be dealt high physical damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Radiation&lt;/em&gt;: After the energy wave, nuclear fire and shockwave have dissipated, inside the blast area of the energy wave will be an area of residual radiation, poisoning all monkeys inside for a period of time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Nuclear Winter&lt;/em&gt;: After all previous effects of the A.P.E have worn off, a nuclear winter will be triggered, slowing all bloons in the entire map by 75%; one random bloon will be frozen per second.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/22/topics/59194?page=6#posts-1473354'&gt;Snatchy&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;99/5 phase dragon with miracle for 2 quanta and deja vu at the same time with steal and freeze and phase shield&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have no comment on this one.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/22/topics/59194?page=6#posts-1473354&quot;&gt;Snatchy&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;99/5 phase dragon with miracle for 2 quanta and deja vu at the same time with steal and freeze and phase shield&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have no comment on this one.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>Try Feone's Gun.
!http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/2697/destroyer.jpg!</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;Try Feone&amp;#8217;s Gun.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;img src=&quot;http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/2697/destroyer.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>The Bloon is supposed to come at level 100, after possibly a bunch of LOLZ and IT'S OVER 9000. You're gonna NEED The Monkey to kill The Bloon that comes after all those IT'S OVER 9000.

MOAB: Level 50.

BFB: Level 60.

LOLZ: Level 80.

IT'S OVER 9000: Level 90.

The Bloon: Level 100.

Elemental damages:
Physical: Damage by sharp things, such as dart, blade, etc.
Fire: Damage by bomb, flames, etc.
Ice: Damage by ice, snow, etc.
Chemical: Damage by poison, acid, etc.
Energy: Damage by laser, plasma, etc.
Certain bloons have immunities to certain elemental damages.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;The Bloon is supposed to come at level 100, after possibly a bunch of &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;LOLZ&lt;/span&gt; and IT&amp;#8217;S &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;OVER&lt;/span&gt; 9000. You&amp;#8217;re gonna &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;NEED&lt;/span&gt; The Monkey to kill The Bloon that comes after all those IT&amp;#8217;S &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;OVER&lt;/span&gt; 9000.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;MOAB&lt;/span&gt;: Level 50.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;BFB&lt;/span&gt;: Level 60.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;LOLZ&lt;/span&gt;: Level 80.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;IT&amp;#8217;S &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;OVER&lt;/span&gt; 9000: Level 90.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Bloon: Level 100.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Elemental damages:&lt;br /&gt;
Physical: Damage by sharp things, such as dart, blade, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
Fire: Damage by bomb, flames, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
Ice: Damage by ice, snow, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
Chemical: Damage by poison, acid, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
Energy: Damage by laser, plasma, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
Certain bloons have immunities to certain elemental damages.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>Another wonderful mutation: 3/3 Graboid with Burrow. It is already burrowed when it came out; when I burrowed it again, it became 1/3... BEST MUTATION EVER!</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;Another wonderful mutation: 3/3 Graboid with Burrow. It is already burrowed when it came out; when I burrowed it again, it became 1/3&amp;#8230; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;BEST&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;MUTATION&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;EVER&lt;/span&gt;!&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>Min, you do realize that, for something to target TWO cards, it'll be extremely hard to program, right?</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;Min, you do realize that, for something to target &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;TWO&lt;/span&gt; cards, it&amp;#8217;ll be extremely hard to program, right?&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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