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Topic: Serious Discussion / Home sweet home...

Originally posted by cromagin2:

Hope they sanitize the scope properly. They have been spreading a superbug with those endoscopes recently if you read the news.

That’s only in the US. Other first world countries have higher standards. Don will be fine; Keymed endoscopes are extremely easy to sterilize, and they won’t be used again till they’ve been steralized once more. If anything, it being used for a colonoscopy just guarantees it will be sterilized more thoroughly, not less.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Home sweet home...

Originally posted by donseptico:

when I’m back in for the next set of investigations (endoscopy, colonoscopy… hope they do it the right way round and/or use different cameras)…

Colonoscopy is a type of endoscopy you know; sounds like you’re only having one procedure done. All endoscopy means is a viewing device inserted into the body through a natural orifice. So yes, they’re only going to use one camera. If you ask the tech nicely, they may even let you see the screen whilst they’re guiding the thing. The one on the device is only B/W but it’s still a very novel way to see yourself :)

All NHS endoscopes are Keymed made, so the device you are going to experience, will definitely have that real-time view built in. Can be kinda cool if you can stomach it :)


I’ve been moderating here (and elsewhere)

Masochism that extreme sounds like it’s veering into chronic illness territory. I’d recommend speaking to someone :P

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Did the holocaust actually happen?

Doomlord, most gore is the effed up kind. You don’t typically see gore when everything is working properly :)

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is Joshua "Leelah" Alcorn a Hero?

Originally posted by cromagin2:

You need to be born a woman to be a woman.

Well, most of us were born as girls. Being a woman only came later. Your experience sounds rather … unique.

You can pretend and play dress up, get surgery, inject hormones, etc. But there will always be fundamental differences in biology that can be revealed through testing.

Under current tech, yes this is true most of the time. However, gender isn’t a boolean value but a sliding scale, and there are often intersex individuals who were not fully one or the other to begin with.

It would be nice to give transwomen menstraul cramps. Mostly out of a sense of justice: If we have to suffer them, they can suffer them too!

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Did the holocaust actually happen?

Zam’s not going to go away; he’s been here for years. Besides, it’s amusing to see how much his arguments have progressed since the last time he came here from his usual hang-out in OT. The answer seems to be ‘not at all’.

I was curious to see if he’d grown, if he was at all interesting now. He hasn’t, and thus he isn’t.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Did the holocaust actually happen?

Technically it’s a white nationalist website, not a white power website. Not all pro-white movements are the same, and saying so is as bigoted as saying every pro-black movement is the same as Malcolm X’s insane movement.

they’re pro-[skin color], so yes, they’re willing to put [skin color] above everyone else just because they are [skin color]. Anyone who is not [skin color] is just an obstacle to be removed, so yes, in that respect they’re all the same.

Also, since I’ve never heard of the Malcolm X movement, why does it have to be insane? It’s likely just another pro-[skin color] campaign.

Perhaps it’s because those countries have laws that ban holocaust revisionism, where as the US has freedom of speech.

Yes. that’s true. The countries in Europe most affected by the war tend to have freedom of speech. Whereas the US has freedom of speech. The difference between freedom of speech and freedom of speech makes all the difference in the world. Somehow.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Did the holocaust actually happen?

You’d think Zam could at least try. Linking to an explicit ‘white power’ site as a source, is hardly compelling evidence for his case.

As a side-note, it’s curious how holocaust denial is pretty much a US thing. You don’t tend to find it in countries that were on the frontlines or occupied during the war.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Theoretic Wonders: Man and Machine

First off, my apologies to you Pete, for seemingly ignoring your thread for a week. Some aspects of my work can involve significant travel, and ‘on-site’ attention as it were. I left Monday, got back Saturday evening, and was in no state for anything computer-related at the time. I did see the thread before I left, and read you’d kinda aimed it particularly towards me. So in the back of my mind knew it was around, but I make a point of not using a laptop whilst driving, and life kinda got in the way the rest of the time.

Originally posted by petesahooligan:

Where is this taking us?

That’s an interesting question, perhaps the most interesting of the thread. The honest answer is ‘I don’t know’. So-called ‘advances like Google Glass don’t really count as advances to my way of thinking, as it’s basically a HUD or Heads-Up-Display, and they’ve been around for decades. Plenty of them in forms you could hook up to a computer system or a hand-held system. Icuiti, now rebranded as Vuzix, makes some good ones, and I’ve purchased HMDs (Head Mounted Displays) from them a few times, over the last decade.

The only real advantage something like Google Glass has, is that it’s quite similar to the upheval in the 3D mouse or pointing device market when the Wii first came out. The Wii itself was quite crap, but the Wii-mote was a godsend. For £25, you could buy a cheap 3D spatial pointing and motion tracking device with giroscopic functions, and integrate it into your PC or whatever system you were building. Because they were so dirt cheap you could easily overcome the position inaccuracies by buying more of them, placing at different orientations on the same object and averaging out the calculated error rate. Previously the Wanda, a wired 3D pointer had been the industry standard, and retailed for about £300 each, with a hardwired cable with a reach of about 3m and felt meaty in your hand.

So as with Google glass, the technology is the exact same as has been with us for years (the Wanda was invented in ‘91, the HUD some point in the mid ’60s), the diffewrence being that it is now cheap and accessible enough for real innovation. As a personal example with the Wii-mote, I once constructed a wearable gait measurement system out of eight wii-motes and three infra-red trackers, plus a control driver I wrote myself using the glovepie library. The entire cost to me was £500. I could have purchased a commercial off the shelf system to do the same thing of course, but a MoCap rig with the same degree of accuracy would have been at least £14,000. Exact same technology, just as good, but the difference was the price-point. That’s what led to the real change.

Now, none of that has really answered your question, Where is this taking us? As I said before, I really don’t know where the end destination is going to be. However, I do have more than some idea about the route we’re going to take. Long-term, we’re looking to totally turn the way we interact with the world around us, completely on its head, with an integration of easily-accessible
virtual data overlays, geopositioning systems, and intelligent objects fgorming ad-hoc sensor webs that is going to completely transform the way we interact with the world, and the way the world interacts with us. Picture every object you own, possessing a small brain of its own, and able to communicate with every other object you own, building up patterns of your habits and talking with one another to make your life better.

One of my favorites is the interactive toilet. It’s the perfect place for a home microfluidic laboratory. You pee into it, and a microfluidic lab built into the bowl takes a sample of your pee. Maybe it analyses the genome, or maybe it works out who you are based on the fact the mirror has just identified your image and passed it on, or the floor recognises your footfalls and passes that on. Once your pee is in the toilet, a microscopic amount from the sample is checked against 250,000 different possible ailments or infections. The chamber
is rotated when the toilet is flushed and another is ready for the next user. Meanwhile the initial chamber won’t be cleaned for about 20min, as it sits hidden in the bulge above the U-bend, deriving results. Once they’re finished, it is then cleaned and ready for the next sample it receives, results are sent to your home’s central computer for analysis.

Within half an hour of you needing to use the toilet, your health has been assessed, and if any medication is needed to correct whichever ailment you have picked up, the house has either already booked an appointment with the doctor, ordered an over-the-counter remedy, or if materials are on-hand, asked the home’s organic 3D printer to fabricate a course of medication from known recipes. The actual response depending on your own preferences. If you’re pregnant (well not the males here, obviously) no need to ever buy a pee stick, the toilet will check for you automatically, every time you use it.

I expect the toilet to be ready well within my lifetime, as there are only a handful of technical hiccups in the microfluidics left to sort out, and existing microfluidic labs in production can already handle 25,000 different abnormalities at once, on a microfluidic lab the size of your credit card.


This is a microfluidic lab designed to diagnose arthritis and already under clinical trial in Germany. Up to five patients at once, takes 20 minutes to run the test, checks 200 different possible causes for arthritis at the same time. Other labs are working on wafer-thin labs that you can literally print replacements for on your home 3D printer.

Long Term

In the long term, we are going to move beyond the human era. By that I mean we literally can choose not to be human any more. Mind uploading is one possibility, creating a duplicate of your mind, online. Another is to replace the brain in-situ with a quantum computer, computerising it one cell at a time, so that you’re the same person, in the same body, but you’re not all that mortal any more.
Yet another option of course is increasingly more thorough body modification. If you wish to change your body so you can fly, it will eventually be possible. Mean mayor modifications to your entire skeletal structure and physiology, but it’ll be doable.

One new type of creature I can see emerging is the true hivemind. A half-dozen minds so deeply interconnected to one another that there is functionally absolutely no dfifference between them other than the physical location. They become one mind spread over multiple physically disparate brains, merging their individualties into a new being. If one body dies, the individual lives on in the others. It
would require new laws set in place to prevent an individual being added to the hive against their will, and to determine property rights when bodies expire, but I can see multiple such entities springing up, especially amongst cults, rotating aroung the particularly strong personality of the cult leader, which is perhaps even hardwired by augmentation technology to prevent loss of it’s own identity. Perfectly doable in theory, and experiments towards linking brains together have been underway for a number of years, with some minor successes.

For those scared of such an eventuality, or comparing them to ‘the borg’ I disagree. The ‘borg’ don’t go far enough. In the real world such a link wouldn’t suppress the individual, rather there would be no individual after a while, and that mind would spread with the others over all the brains involved, mixing in until there was no way to tell where one ended and another began – and no point in trying.

Likewise, I really, really doubt this would lead to a ‘one world, one mind’ dystopia. Rather a world where hiveminds are many and so are single minds and artificial minds of all types, styles and sizes, in all manner of embodiments, coexisting in the same uneasy state of semi-peace as life has always done since the days of the primordial ooze. In other words, competing and quarralling with one another just as much as individual humans do now. Personally, becoming part of a hivemind doesn’t appeal to me, and protection against such would be a priority. With brain hacking or remote accessing an increasing reality both through implantation and our knowledge of how to affect unaugmented brains with or without the owner’s permission, ‘brain firewalls’ will become as important a part of the world as PC security is now. Methods to stop your mind being manipulated become much more feasable as knowledge grows, and in a post-human world, I can think of several (still theoretical) means to secure your being, and only allow the enhancements you choose to.

Ultimate long-term

We won’t be ‘human’ as the term is traditionally defined any more. Some may choose to be similar to how they are now, but that’s a personal choice. As the biology becomes less and less important, and our knowledge and ability grows, even such a thing as biological compatibility for reproduction becomes less and less important, until it ceases to be a concern altogether. In such a world, you can still reproduce even if you are both biologically sterile, and of mutually incompatible biology. The newborn being built for you to specifications, using perhaps a random mix of your personalities and abilities. Whether you wish to feel a ‘pregnancy’ is again entirely optional, as complete understanding of sensory data and embodfiment means anything physically permissable (within the laws of physics) is possible.

We won’t be human anymore as the current definition holds it, but I cannot see that it actually matters. We’ll each be what we wish to be. Nothing more, nothing less.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / United States laws "Utah Shame" Edition

Originally posted by donseptico:

The point of a minimum sentence (whatever that might be… incarceration, probation, community service, fines, etc) is that it’s the starting point treating every offender the same for the same offence… obviously the level at which the minimum sentence is set should be appropriate to the offence in question.

Exactly. It’s a guide for the judge. It’s there to ensure that those who commit a similar crime, no matter who they are, or where they are, or who is judging them, get a similar sentence. It’s a starting point for the base crime itself. Other elements that make the crime worse or compound it somehow are then added on top – up to a maximum sentence length that cannot be exceeded.

There are other potential uses which could be interesting, such as mandating a particular minimum amount of therapy or rehabilitation for the prisoner after committing a given redeemable crime. It would ensure everyone got at least the same minimum chance to better themselves and to overcome whatever fault led to the crime in the first place.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / United States laws "Utah Shame" Edition

Yes, I did. It wasn’t relevant to what you were claiming he was stating, so I didn’t bother including it in the quote. I actually agree with what he’s saying, in that mandatory minimums are there as exactly what they say – a minimum sentence you can get for a given type of crime. They’re a benchmark for the judge. The judge can offer sentencing no lower, but they can go higher if they wish to.

What don was saying, is that there is doubt that the minimum sentence for this particular crime was fair. It could well be lower. That would also give the court more room to decide what sentence on top of that the defendent should serve. In this case he got extra time due in part, to his decision to bring a firearm along whilst engaged in business he absolutely knew to be criminal.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Pay2Win: Great business model or immoral exploitation of the easily addicted and children?

Technically Pay2Win is a great business model. It is so precisely because it exploits those with a penchant for addiction and guarantees a sizable return on investment for not a lot of work. Business is impartial, business is unemotional. ‘Good business’ operates regardless of the effects it has on the customer, so long as that customer keeps right on paying.

Yes, this also means from a business point of view, selling dope also counts as good business. The profits far outweigh the costs, though there are some risks involved. Once hooked, you have guaranteed return business, and once they are good and addicted, you can provide a lower and lower quality product, but still charge the same price – and your customers will keep right on paying.

In many ways the two business models are very similar.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / United States laws "Utah Shame" Edition

Originally posted by urine420:

I don’t want to be accused of mod sass, but donseptico seems to have a real case of just world fallacy. The idea that the legal system is infallible and doesn’t disproportionately victimise certain classes of people, or that government (especially in america lol) doesn’t do its hardest to marginalise the views of large portions of society…

It helps if you actually read what don said, and don’t overlay your own agendas on top of that before processing it.

Originally posted by donseptico:

I don’t really have a problem with the concept of mandatory minimum sentences (nor maximum terms)… whether or not said sentence is proportionate to the crime is another matter.

Assuming the sentences are to be served consecutively (hence 55years) that does seem a little excessive

He agrees that it is excessive, and by it being excessive, he is actually pointing out a problem with the system that automatically destroys your claim that he feels it is infalible.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Greek Elections Jan 2015

Not unless outside force intervenes, no.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Greek Elections Jan 2015

Reading that link, it seems to be based round the Greeks closing down their version of the BBC and firing everybody involved, so they could save money. I’m not sure where the occupation angle comes in?

There was a lot of slippery slope hyperbole about Greece being the ‘testing ground’ for a jackboot invasion that would sweep across Europe, but I’m not seeing the connection between the two?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Human Stupidity

Intelligence is basically problem solving ability. The ability to take disparate pieces of a puzzle or situation, recognise the pattern they fit into and extrapolate what to do next from that pattern. It may draw on memory, and on sensory data, but it’s not the memory or sensory data itself.

IQ is essentially logical problem solving ability. A person with a high IQ will be able to identify the pattern much more quickly than a person with a low IQ. The low IQ may get there in the end, but it will take more time and they are more likely that the high IQ to not realise that some data is actually part of the puzzle. It doesn’t really get any murkier when a puzzle requires elements of knowledge to solve, because the IQ is still the bit taking all known data and looking for the connections. A test that focusses on specific knowledge may register the IQ as lower, but a test that does not rely such, soon solves this.

EQ is essentially emotional mangement and people skills. The ability to read people, and puzzle out how to interact with them for the best results. It’s very different from IQ, and involves different brain areas. It’s a knack for feeling out emotions and emotion-driven arguments rather than logical thinking, and how to best utilise them in oneself and in other people.

The two styles of intelligence are radically different, and they don’t think alike at all. They even draw from different areas of the brain; when viewed under a fMRI scan which is able to track activation of brain areas by the increase (or decrease) in oxygen they draw from the blood, a person with a mostly IQ-based intelligence has their prefrontal cortex light up like a christmas tree, whilst their medial temporal lobe stays mostly silent, when they are scanned whilst thinking hard.

A person with a high EQ but low IQ is the opposite. Whilst they are thinking hard, even on the same subject as the first person, their medial temporal lobe is aglow, whilst the prefrontal cortex is only nominally active. These two brain regions do not abut one another, and the person is literally using different hardware in their brain when they work things out.

A person with an actual kinesthetic intelligence would have to have their parietal lobe light up like a christmas tree whenever they are thinking hard, trying to solve a problem. That’s the area of the cortex where muscular control and proprioception is dealt with. They’d literally have to be using their muscles to think, and I frankly cannot see how that would work.

I can see what you’re saying as kinesthetic learning, but learning how to move the body is a different thing to working out how to solve a problem. Surely even when they’re looking at a new trick, they’re thinking spatially, and trying to logically reason out how they would move their body.

Surely that would come under IQ rather than being a separate type?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Human Stupidity

Karma:

Pardon me for trying to set up a discussion with you, Karma. I didn’t need the google link, I wished for your definition, and was trying to bring your socioeconomic argument back into the main topic.


Pete:

Originally posted by petesahooligan:

The typology of intelligence, according to this theory, includes:

1. Visual-Spatial
2. Rhythm-Harmony
3. Verbal-Linguistic
4. Mathematical
5. Kinesthetic
6. Interpersonal (emotional intelligence)
7. Intrapersonal (self-awareness)
8. Naturalistic (environmental interpretation)
9. Existential (spiritual sensitivity)

I can agree with parts of this. For example, emotional intelligence or EQ is already widely accepted as a type of intelligence.

How would you have a kinesthetic intelligence though? It’s a type of learning in context.
There are three main learning styles:

Auditory
Spatial
Kinesthetic

There are also four sub-styles, which I won’t address here unless you think it necessary.

Everyone has a mix of all three, but usually specialise to a far higher degree in one or two of them. However, they’re a measurement of how you best draw information into your mind, as an individual. I don’t think it’s possible to have a touch-based intelligence?

Likewise I don’t think you could categorise natural or existential as a type of intelligence. A mode of thought certainly, but are they really a discrete type of thinking, completely different from the other types?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Greek Elections Jan 2015

Originally posted by cromagin2:

How long will the Germans and the Japanese pay for their ancestors mistakes during WW2? The people alive now in those countries did not commit the crimes.

Some did, and we’re still only 1-2 generations removed from those who fought, on all sides. Meaning many of those in their adulthood now have heard war stories from the direct participants. Perhaps more importantly, many of the current adults in Greece will have heard those stories second, or even firsthand. It takes much longer than 70 years for an event to fade completely from living memory, and if the Germans do have to repossess Greece’s physical assets, they’ll be doing so in that light.

I can see opposition forming for no other reason than the (probably unfounded) belief the Germans are looking to expand their empire again. Enough belief like that is circulating among the populations of the UK certainly, that should the Germans go in to basically asset-sieze, the reaction could be profoundly negative from all countries, not just Greece.

Any such asset-seizure thus would I believe have to be done by a pan-European force, just to make it clear that it’s not the Germans ‘acting out’ once again, but something in the interest of all EU member states.

One thing I do wonder, based on Beauval’s earlier assessment, is what the long-term solution could be. Would a friendly ‘occupation’ actually be necessary? Using foreign (to Greece) politicians and civil servants imposed upon them by the EU, to weed out the worst of the corruption and get things flowing smoothly, possibly for the first time. That would not go down well, displacing an elected government to install another in its place. But it may be the only realistic solution to bring Greece out of the endemic political and beaurocratic corruption that caused the problem in the first place.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Human Stupidity

What is the “average joe” whilst we’re on that topic? It applies equally as well to intelligence as it does socioeconomic ability which you’re talking about, Karma.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Human Stupidity

That’s not stupidy though; it’s opportunistic activity meant to benefit the person, combined with a moral code that considers it ok to do such, or in some cases sheer desperation. If anything, it requires considerable mental agility and problem solving skills to be able to react on the fly to such situations; not lose your nerve and not get caught.

They are issues to be addressed, but they’re not directly related to a person’s intellgence.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / United States laws "Utah Shame" Edition

Originally posted by RollerCROWster:

Also, there is literally no difference between having a weapon for self defense and intending to go on a shooting spree!!!!

The difference was he took the firearm with him whilst knowingly committing a crime. The firearm was there to back up his criminal activities, rather than as normal self-defence. It makes a world of difference.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Anyone got experience with wills and probate (uk law)?

Originally posted by cromagin2:

Why not ask on a forum based in the UK, instead of one based in the United States? You might get more advice and better advice.

You state you don’t live in the US either, cro. So by your own argument, what are you doing here?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Sleep apnea

I certainly was not aware of any such effort, and would not support such. Mental illnesses run the gamut from the easily curable, and easily treatable, right up to full blown psychosis and instability – covering everything in-between.

Not being able to own a gun after having any sort of mental illness is directly akin to no-longer being allowed to drive a car, because you once caught a cold. It’s complete nonsense. Unless the mental condition is going to directly affect your ability to use a firearm, then I cannot ever see it passing.

Sometimes yes, there is a link that can be made; like how with sleep apnea you’d often find your right to drive being taken away if the apnea was quite severe, as you become less able to concentrate, and that translates directly into you being a danger when operating a vehicle or complex machinery. But if there’s no link to be made, then there’s no justification for the ban.

Besides, in this case it is Jhco’s wife, not Jhco himself who would be affected, if it was even relevant. It’s up to him to weigh in on whether or not this is factoring into his decision, but I see no reason why it should.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Creating Change in Your Community

Meh, very likely. But it still lacks that visual ‘punch’ or mainstream ‘cool’ factor that Pete’s has. Don’t take me wrong, I’d rather stick with what I do than have his job, but I do envy his vocation’s ability to whip up public support so easily.

With my stuff, it has to be a sizable improvement on the last model to gain public interest, and will have to be very close to the technical capabilities of the original to get that real public ‘wowza’ factor, but with his work all the change is social rather than technical, so every job he does adds to the wave of public support in ways nobody in my sort of work could ever hope to match.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Creating Change in Your Community

Originally posted by petesahooligan:

There are all kinds of change-makers working across the world. Here’s a video one of my colleagues just sent me a few minutes ago that I think represents the vitality, creativity, and spirit of skatepark advocacy.

Certainly beats sitting in a workshop, with a pair of osciloscopes, a copy of the patient’s scan data and a CAD/CAM program running in front of you, in terms of ‘exciting change’ :P

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The school lunch problem in the USA.

Amusingly cro, Jhco’s often said that if you don’t support American values, you are Anti-American. One primary American value is freedom, and that freedom is defended by our military. Much of the reason this act was put into place was that our military’s top brass was growing concerned about the problem of 1 in 4 Americans being too obese to serve in the military.

So, if I was being snarky, I could say that by Jhco not supporting an act to try and slim Americans down so that more can defend American freedom and values, Jhco himself is being Anti-American. If I was being snarky, I could indeed say that. Yes indeedy…

Source for the military concern