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Topic: Serious Discussion / Topic of the day: Utopia

Originally posted by petesahooligan:

One interesting concept of Utopia is a place where everyone is happy. (Blue pill.)

So utopia is a purpose-built facility filled with near-endless rows of patients on heroin drips. It would be absolute bliss for the participants, and over time their brains would pair down to just the pleasure circuit, everything else atrophying away.

It could be said really, that a utopia is a bad thing, however we go about achieving it. Once everything is ‘perfect’, once everyone is happy, what impetus is there for change, for growth? What is there to strive for?

A utopia is thus likely to be a stagnant society. Any progress, any change, is moving away from the utopian state towards something else. Both for the purpose of maintaining the utopia, and from the point-of-view of the citizen of utopia, that is completely undesirable.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Turning something abusive into something positive.

Originally posted by dacomb:

Restorative Justice requires Forgiveness from the victim of harm.

This is not a common concept in popular culture.

That’s because it’s our nature to look for who was at fault for the incident, as opposed to who takes responsibility for the incident. Those two concepts are worlds apart.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What do you think the impact would be if Serious Discussion were to receive more regulars from Off-Topic?

Well, we’ve received several regulars from OT, and the net effect has been positive. We’ve gained some good people by all accounts.

Now, we just have to make sure you guys stay. Where’d I put those manacles… ?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Topic of the day: Utopia

The only way I can see a utopia forming, is if we throw out the idea of ‘a’ utopia. It might work as many thousands, or millions of small communities, separated from one another by something impassable.

For example, several million digital realms might well work, where every aspect of the realm, down to the physics itself, is controllable. An inhabitant of any given realm might not be aware that anything exists outside of that realm.

You’d still sacrifice a lot in that example, but then any utopia is going to require a pairing down of the complexity of life, so as to limit the data that different choices might be made upon, as well as limiting the chances for something to go catastropically wrong.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Questioning the Nature of Your Embodiment

Pete

Originally posted by petesahooligan:

Here are the physical shortcomings in my life that I’d like to see my body handle better. I’m going to use a skateboarding context because it is familiar to me.

1. I fall. Sometimes I fall hard and it hurts… I scrape myself up, I get bruised, I punish my heels and sometimes my knees and elbows. I would benefit from enhancements that allowed my joints and skin to withstand more punishment.

Replacing the most troublesome joints might make sense. Particularly the knee and anjkle, both of which are extremely poorly designed, and overly prone to malfunction. That would involve opening the limb up and grafting an artificial joint in. Actually available today, so not too big a stretch.

The skin would probably be best served by a wearable rather than a prosthetic. Augmenting you with a form fitting artificial skin that can be removed if damaged, and which allows skin biomechanics to continue unabated underneath.

Would probably work best as a smart wearable layer with sensors spread throughout it, so it could relay information straight through to your own sense of touch, without you losing any of the sensory fidelity you do when you wear normal clothes. Doable, certainly.

2. Learning new tricks is difficult. Your first successful heelflip might be on your thousandth attempt. The more dangerous or risky a trick is, the fewer times you are allowed to fail at it. For some tricks you only want to successfully do it the once and be done with it forever. I would benefit from enhancements that allowed me to quickly develop muscle memory in order to analyze and adjust technique more efficiently.

This one might be difficult. I could see a brainstem interface, tied into the sense of touch, capable of I/O. It would read the sense of proprioception from one individual, and save it in an external form, so it could be given to another, who could then have their implant read it, so their body could exactly copy the same body movements the first person made.

I’m unsure how successful that approach would be given different body shapes and sizes. There could be some unintended nastiness there if the disparity between body shapes/sizes is too great.

Alternatively, but much more invasively, you could splice a network of electrodes and microfluidics into every body muscle, so that the same proprioception signal could be read but with the added bonus of knowing the complete size of any given muscle. It would then be possible to calculate the muscle size differences between different individuals.

I’ve included the microfluidics in the alternate method because if you’re opening things up to that extent, you might as well maximise your benefits. The microfluidics could deliver oxygen and ATP pinpoint to the muscle cells, so that anerobic exercise never occurs. You’d have much greater strength and stamina for long-duration exercise such as skateboarding. This addresses point 3.

The disadvantage would of course be filleting you like a fish to put the electrode arrays in. They could be hidden completely under the skin, but that doesn’t avoid the actual filleting bit.


Daryl

Originally posted by DarylDixon101:

I sappose if I had no choice I would want gills. To be able to breath underwater and stuff. Is that stupid? XD

Not stupid at all. I’d probably recommend placing them on the shoulders rather than the neck, as you’d ideally have them where the water flow is greatest. On the upper arm itself is another promising location. Neck’s near useless as we don’t have streamlined heads, and the head will block out most water flow.

Now, I do find that we are a bit to soft, I think we need more bones like our skull, maybe not even bones, something stronger so we can withstand bad accidents.

Titanium is frequently used. That should be strong enough. You’ll still require the bone marrow though, as that’s where red and white blood cells are made, among other things. Artificial hydroapitate can be used to fuse the titanium to the marrow, as is done now.

I feel, it might be wrong to complain and want for more than what we have been given.

Why is it? If it is within our power to better ourselves, why is it inherently wrong to do so?

I would LOVE to change my facial features though I guess I should add since I have gone this far already…

That’s actually a relatively tame set of procedures compared to the other stuff we’ve been through. Rhinoplasty, blepharoplasty, rhytidectomy… all common procedures today.

The danger you’d face with using active prosthetics to change a face rather than resculpting the organics as in the above procedures, is you’d risk running afoul of the Uncanny Valley – creating a face that didn’t looik human enough; just slightly off, just enough to creep others out. That’s something we most definitely have yet to conquer.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Topic of the day: Utopia

Out of interest Karma, do you piss yourself off sometimes? I know I piss myself off sometimes.

So I certainly could not be part of a utopia without pissing myself off, and thus not being utopian. Could you?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Turning something abusive into something positive.

Originally posted by developous210:

The mods/admins don’t care what you say. They believe that their rules are god, and there can be no exceptions.

Developous, you’ve recreated this same thread what, two dozen times now, on SD alone. It doesn’t matter how many times you complain, it boils down to what you are asking of the mods and admins being unreasonable. You’re asking for a special exception for you from the rules of a kongregate forum. To be allowed to post in defiance of the rules that govern all other posters.

It’s no wonder they continue to deny you the exception to ‘police yourself’.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Topic of the day: Utopia

Utopia is physically possible from a technical standpoint. However, from a human standpoint it cannot work.

We each have (a degree of) freedom of thought. Many of us are independent to varying degrees of firocity, and there’s always the specter of a brain architecture diverging sufficiently from the baseline, so as to create individuals who literally ‘think differently’ to everyone else. Unless you have a standardisation of thought, it’s not going to be possible to sustain a utopia. You may create one, but it certainly won’t last.

Historically, as a species, we have a habit of aiming squarely for utopia, charging at it, then at the last moment taking a sharp left turn and diving into the darkness.

Even if you do manage to attain a standardisation of thought, the steps you’ll have to undertake to create that standardisation in the first place, are going to be nothing short of dystopian. Creating a utopia as a result of creating a total dystopia might work, but it’s a very heavy price to pay. Especially since you’ll never really be able to lose the necessity of ‘pruning’ people who don’t think in ways that agree with the utopia.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Choose a Faction

My apologies for the delay, Daryl. If you hang around SD a while, you’ll notice I tend to disappear from time to time. It’s nothing personal; it’s usually when I find myself with more to do than I can fit in the time for, and often involves a lot of driving. The police tend to frown on people typing on the internet whilst driving down a national motorway at 110mph. Dunno why…

Anyhow, to address the posts you’ve addressed to me over the past few days:

Originally posted by DarylDixon101:

Now all I need is Karma to reply, then and only then is this an official SD thread! … Sirphilly says he has jothing to say on the topic but… if I can get atleast Vik and Karma in here, I think I might be classified as interesting for once. Seriously though, thank you.

You’re selling yourself short here. Please don’ty look to the long-timers to validate your thread. It’s a good thread, and it’s something you’re keen on. The popularity of this thread is your doing, not ours.

Originally posted by DarylDixon101:

Vik you are Erudite and/or Divergent

Originally posted by DarylDixon101:

Am I right though? Those are your factions?

Sortof. I’m not erudite. It’s a strength of mine yes, but to be erudite means giving up all emotional ties. Removing your emotions to the greatest extent possible, whilst simultaneously breaking all ties with family and friends.

That’s not me. My teckgeek nature is passion driven, and most of my own inventions have come from a strong emotional foundation. Without the strength of emotion providing drive, I’d not have accomplished half of what I have.

So I’m definitely much more divergent than pure erudite. That of me which is not erudite, would come from a sixth faction not mentioned in the books – a welspring of emotion, an embrace of the emotions the listed faction don’t acknowledge. Most have some emotions as acceptable, but none have them all. So I doubt I would really fit in their society at all.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Choose a Faction

It would help if you defined what the five categories are. What they actually mean. I’m familiar with the books they come from, but I doubt others are.

Your post is the OP, the most important one in the thread, defining the nature of the discussion. You should really define the concepts, give otyhers a basis for what you are trying to discuss. “Just look it up” isn’t going to be sufficient for an OP, I’m afraid.

In this case, I’d recommend explaining how the work splits the human psyche into five distinct groupings, and tries to shoehorn everyone into one group and one only. They can either be intelligent, religious, fearless, brutally honest, or free from the notion of the self as important, and to do otherwise is to be divergent – an enemy of society, a criminal basically.

A good discussion point could be whether or not anyone can be just one of these five, and still be a complete person. Another might be if these five truly do represent the key facets of the human psyche. Are there other facets not covered here?

You get the idea. Right now there’s no meat on the OP to actually discuss. No definitions to work with.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Defend liberalism

Urine posted the exact same thing, word for word in another thread, when he was self-admittedly rather drunk, from material he self-admittedly can only partially remember.

Urine, please don’t post verbatum, ideas you had when you were drunk as a lord. They make zero sense to sober people.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / how hard is the GED test?

Originally posted by karmakoolkid:

vika, might not some (all?) of what is being shown by josaphine’s last two posts be considered a huge factor for the OP … esp. in the area of “…readiness for a job…”?

She’s not ready for a job, that’s certain. We did however manage to hammer out that she’s using a phone keypad to talk on Kong, which at least partially explains the seemingly atrocious grasp of written English.

Even so, you’re quite right. So is SirPhilly above. Putting in the effort to succeed at a test, is going to be far better in the long run than scraping about looking for handouts. If you’re weak in a subject you’re likely going to need, then it makes sense to spend more time on that subject.

Reading Writing and Arithmatic are the three foundations of almost any test, so she’s going to have to bone up on math at least a little, or she’s shooting herself in the foot there.

Reading comprehension and writing skill on their own are absolutely not going to be enough to pass.

If it is collage, it won’t be as near “forgiving” as the home-school and will be nearly as swift in giving the ol’ pink slip as does the employer.

Depends on the college/uni really. The first one I attended didn’t give a shit if you put the work effort in or not. If you didn’t, you were going to wash out, and that was your own damn fault. A goodly number of those I’d made the aquaintance of in the first year, weren’t present for the second. School of hard knocks maybe, but it definitely worked to sort the workers from the slackers.

We might be engaging w/ either a “special” situation …. or a troll (for latter, read his/er OT posts).

Meh. Doomlord posts some extremely silly things in OT, then behaves maturely when they come here, and has done for quite a while. I’d rather have a little more to go on than just their behavior in a different forum, if they’re at least willing to try here.

josphine hasn’t yet been able to grasp the concept that having his/er opinions challenged on SD is what happens here …

Meh, without saying too much, (and I hope you’re reading this Jo), her greatest problem is she tends to take an argument against her position as a personal attack on herself. Until she can rationalise that an attack on her argument, or her stance is not an attack on her personal being, she’s not going to be doing much more than continually shooting herself in the foot whenever she approaches an obstacle.

  


Originally posted by DarylDixon101:

Got your pm karma and i apologize.
I can be serious and thts what im doing right now.
Im not re tarded like all of you like to say.
Im not going to argue. I just want a general idea of what im walking into. :)
Help me out?

Nobody has called you retarded; you show no symptoms of being slow of mind. What we are doing is criticizing your approach to taking this test and suggesting alternate strategies. In particular SirPhilly’s advice to carefully read the text presented and try to avoid jumping to conclusions, is something to certainly seriously consider.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / how hard is the GED test?

If you are going to use private messaging, please try not to bring the conversation back to the forum unless it is pertinent to the discussion. As that exchange was solely about clarification of concepts, I don’t follow how it could be pertinent.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / how hard is the GED test?

I think SirPhilly’s main point, Josaphine, is it’s not uncommon to find ‘trick’ questions in the tests, where a quick read-over of the instructions yields one answer, but if you read the instructions thoroughly, you find it is actually asking something quite different.

Other than that, brush up on your weakest subjects – at least know the basic formulas for math and physics for instance, and brush up on whichever segment of history you learnt. After that, revise, revise, revise. Stop revising the day before the test and make sure to get a full night’s sleep. That sleep will also help your reading comprehension and alertness levels.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / #hypterthetical: Taboovie

My movie would be about those with various mental illnesses. It would portray the individuals as absolutely ‘normal’ everyday folk, plagued by creatures only they could perceive, who would physically restrict them from doing certain tasks, related to the nature of their illness. Additionally, these creatures would grow or shrink in size and power as the severity of the condition waxed and waned.

Since only those with the associated illness could see these creatures, everyone else would see the individual as a bit ‘off’ in ways corresponding to their torment, and would react negatively against them according to the stereotypes of mental illness.

The film would follow three, perhaps four such individuals, each with different conditions – depression, anxiety, OCD and Bipolar seem like good matches, as their lives weave in and out of each other, and each tries to live as normal a life as they can whilst dealing with both their respective monsters and the negativity from the so called ‘normal’ people they try to interact with.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / how hard is the GED test?

From your description, and from the quality of your writing you have demonstrated on this forum as an indicator of an ‘okay’ subject, I don’t believe you’re going to do very well. As you said yourself, the sciences are not your cup of tea, your math ability is self-admittedly poor, and we can see your writing ability is likewise…

I would advise putting together contingency plans on what you are going to do if you fail.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / This image sums up the USA perfectly!

I doubt he ever left. His personality is too obsesive-compulsive to do that.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / This image sums up the USA perfectly!

Originally posted by karmakoolkid:

But, there is already “other ppl” in that 2nd boat, too.
They are the ppl who live in the countries/areas/boats these robber barons will then bleed so thin that a hole can easily develop rendering the boat unable to get anywhere for all the effort being put towards TRYING to keep it afloat.

Aayup. And these people will cross the ocean that way: leaping from boat to boat, taking everything they can until the boat starts to sink. Then leaping to the next and the next and the next… Eventually they either run out of boats or reach the shore.

You could think of it that these people continually shave the wood back on the boat, making it thinner and thinner till it cannot withstand the water pressure any more. They then give some of these shavings as payment to the skipper of the next boat, to allow them on-board (the shavings can be used to shore up any existing weaknesses). Once there, these people continue to add to their own pile of shavings from the new boat until it too starts to sink. Then they use part of their pile of shavings as payment for a place on the next boat… and so on.

Each emerging economy is a new lifeboat. Each failing economy is a sinking lifeboat, only held onto whilst there is something to scrape from it. That country will eventually collapse completely.

The gamble is, that by the time these people have done the circuit of all the available countries, the one they came from will have finished its collapse into civil war, and either consolodated or split into new countries that can then be exploited all over again.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / War on Drugs vs. Don't be a snitch

Originally posted by petesahooligan:

There’s a philosophical slant that you might consider, too. Life is challenging and you have your hands full trying to make the best of it. It’s difficult enough to have things go your way even when you put in the work, (but it gets easier as you get older… I didn’t “grow up” until I was well into my twenties, at least). With all of the challenges you’ll encounter while living your life, you should never look for other peoples’ problems to work on too.

That said, if you find you do know someone who is into serious criminal activity, you have to weigh up your priorities as to whether you wish an intervention for their sake and/or the sake of others. If you do not intervene, you have to be comfortable with knowing they are up to said serious criminal activity.

If you do intervene by reporting them to the authorities, under no circumstances should you then boast that it was you who shopped them to the police. That’s a great way to end up in the hospital or dead. If not from them, from business partners of theirs, you were blissfully unaware of.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / This image sums up the USA perfectly!

Your image is too zoomed in. You’re missing the second lifeboat those on the dry end have close by, to jump to when this one finally sinks.

Of course they won’t let the ones bailing out onto the new one; that’s not the way the game works.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Questioning the Nature of Your Embodiment

Originally posted by petesahooligan:

Would an automobile that was interfaced through neural transmissions qualify as telepresence?

If you’re not physically in it at the time you’re receiving sensory data from it, yes.

If it’s a shell around your body that only functions as an extension of your body and of your sensory nerve endings when you’re actually inside of it, then no.

To me, this degree of immersion is what makes the the consideration difficult. How much of what I currently am would I be sacrificing?

Entirely up to you.

Do I want gills? Hell yeah! Do I want gills when I’m at the bar trying to chat up that hot girl? Not really.

Then retract them under a layer of skin whilst you are in the bar. Just because you have something doesn’t mean you have to display it all the time. If you’re in atmosphere, having them active would only be derogatory to your health anyway. Ideally they’d only activate when you wished to switch from air-breathing to water-filtrating as your source of oxygen, and there’s no reason they could not be completely invisible whilst not being used.

There are, of course, physical considerations. A human form is not meant to fly under its own power.

Yup. which is why I specifically stated it would require an external power source. The human body does not provide enough energy for the mass ratio, without draining everything else below life-supporting levels. An external power source bypasses that little problem.

it just makes things like cooking more hazardous.

Depends on how you implement it. The human brain is perfectly capable of rewiring itself to accept a fifth and sixth limb without a problem (that has been tested, quite extensively). So, as I said, when they’re not being used for flight, alter their state to semi-prehensile limbs. Extra limbs to use for reaching for materials, or wrapping an extra ‘cloak’ (the wing membranes) around you to keep warm if it gets chilly.

It’s just a case of designing the addons as intelligently as possible, so that they give you additional abilities without crimping your preferred lifestyle.

BSG said it well: An ideal bodily enhancement would be to completely replace parts ofthe body that don’t work right. Make wheelchairs a distant memory of the past.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The next President Clinton

I posted and then immediately reworded my post, SirPhilly. You’ve replied to the pre-rewrite version, before I realised the trap I’d just laid for myself :)

The new second paragraph should I hope, clarify why these people who rant and rave about ‘liberal this’ and ‘liberal that’ are pretty much ignorable. Whilst I’ll agree there are those who are so deeply on the left they’ve lost sight of even the concept of moderation, the exact same can be said of those on the far right, and both are ‘lunatic fringe’ for that same reason.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The next President Clinton

Originally posted by SirPhilly:

Well, she is the Wife to the President. I asked if the “lieberals will still worship her” if she’s no longer in office with the President.

You’d have to ask the far rightwing nuts what the ‘lieberals’ will do. They’re the only ones who use the term in anything approaching a serious manner, and they’re the ones who determine what such individuals will and won’t do.

Most on the left (and most on the right for that matter) are too busy being individuals with their own hopes, dreams, and individual behaviors to worry about what other people’s political opinions are telling them they must behave like and do.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Questioning the Nature of Your Embodiment

Pete & BSG

I’m not interested in telepresence within the scope of this thread. For those uninitiated, telepresence is maintaining a remote presence relative to where you yourself are. For example routing all your senses through an exploratory submersible whilst your physical body is on dry land.

Instead I was more concerned with reembodiment. Changing the nature of your body itself to a different form, that you carry with you as you move; it’s a part of you.

Personally, there’s a form I would love to explore.

I would like wings. Tied to my body’s nervous system via the rhomboids. They’d move when I moved my shoulderblades, and running off their own inorganic power system they’d easily generate the power required for independent flight. Wouldn’t be too hard to integrate the controls for that into my neural pathways, so I was aware of remaining fuel levels, diagnostics, and had the ability to activate and throttle the system as I chose.

With the wings behaving in different manners depending on whether the system was active (unfurled, ready to fly) or passive (third and fourth limbs, albeit sprouting from my back) the system would be managable in most all concieivable circumstances, giving extra capabilities to my body directly.

Why join the rat-race when you can soar over it?


onlineidiot

Not going to be possible. Remember the square-cube law? You’d tear out every joint in your body just trying to stand up, and you’d crumble under the tensions from your own weight the first time you tried to take a step.

Do you have any more … realistic … ideas on how you might modify your base form once the ability presented itself?


Stanwise

I should probably mention that when you first arrived, till a good way in, I already strongly suspected you were female, so in mind at least, you could definitely pass. But yes, I strongly suspect that’ll be a common usage once the ability is here. A lot of individuals with gender dysphoria that would definitely help. Heck, most embodient dysphorias in general.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / War on Drugs vs. Don't be a snitch

Basically, your issue can be resolved by the simple statement:

“If you are going to report someone you know to the authorities for their involvement in serious crime, don’t then tell anyone it was you who reported them.”

Should be common sense, but as most of us are aware, common sense is neither common, nor makes much sense.