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Topic: Off-topic / Official Bernie Sanders For President Masterthread

Ok, but someone still shouldn’t watch the news if you are letting it control your thinking.

And that’s where the strawman part comes into play, because I never said the news controls how you think (although I think it does to some extent). My subargument is that they can control what we think about, two very different things. Also that statement you made is really just your opinion and doesn’t dispute my claim at all.

So you think all news sources are biased?

Yes. In America at least, but I can’t imagine the situation being too different overseas and I can also extrapolate.

Yes, I was, you just misunderstood my question.

No, because first of all you never asked any question. Second of all saying “please tell me about X” is not the same as nor does it suggest “provide specific examples about X”. And lastly, you should actually address the meat of that sentence instead of getting caught up on the first three words.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Official Bernie Sanders For President Masterthread

I didn’t mean “you” as in you, but anyone who lets the news control their thinking shouldn’t be watching the news.

doesn’t matter; it’s still ad hominem even if it’s not directed at the person making the argument.

The news isn’t here to control us, it should just inform us.

Firstly, it doesn’t matter what you think a news station should or shouldn’t do. It matters how it functions in the real world. Secondly, there is no such thing as unbiased news in America. Even if it does work to inform us, it does just as much to control public opinion.

I’m asking for specific examples, you made points but did not back them up with sources.

You actually weren’t, but in any case Kasic gave pretty good examples above.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Official Bernie Sanders For President Masterthread

You have to be pretty dumb if you allow news organizations to control how you think, you shouldn’t really even be watching the news if you do.

This is literally ad hominem used to attack a strawman. I’m not going to bother responding if you’re not going to make a valid argument.

and i already explained how they spread propaganda. if you would like to learn more please read my posts and/or learn what the term “propaganda” means.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Official Bernie Sanders For President Masterthread

Originally posted by Belisaurius11:
Originally posted by KiNGDOMHEARST:
Originally posted by Belisaurius11:
Originally posted by Kasic:
Originally posted by Belisaurius11:
Fox News is right wing propaganda, not liberal.

ehh, not really.

Btw, do you guys have fun doing this? Because I would be so tired by now.

What would you call Fox News?

And it’s a lot less fun when Uber won’t give me anything to argue about. All he’s doing now is shifting to insults and dodging questions, which isn’t interesting in the slightest.

A news organization with a conservative slant to it, just like msnbc is a news organization with a liberal slant to it.

So it’s a political propaganda machine, as with all media sources. The acts of prioritizing certain stories and omitting others as well as presenting its own opinions on events of the day are very very much political tools.

Having a slant does not make you a propaganda machine. They don’t omit certain stories.

I think you’re greatly misrepesenting the capabilities of media. News organizations literally have the power to control what you think about — if you felt enraged during the Casey Anthony case or perceive injustice in the way the US handles illegal immigration, it’s because those issues have been placed in the spotlight, largely by the media. By establishing the framework, news organizations have the power to control national conversation to a great extent. The diction you use here (“slant”) seems to imply that its actions have an element of inconsequentiality, but that’s false. If what is spread by Fox isn’t propaganda, I don’t know what is.

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They don’t omit certain stories.

they do. considering it’s literally impossible to report on every crime/achievement/news story etc. Also you may notice that across news stations many don’t cover stories that could be regarded as “supporting” the other side of the spectrum while giving attention to stories the other way around of equal/lesser importance.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Official Bernie Sanders For President Masterthread

Originally posted by Belisaurius11:
Originally posted by Kasic:
Originally posted by Belisaurius11:
Fox News is right wing propaganda, not liberal.

ehh, not really.

Btw, do you guys have fun doing this? Because I would be so tired by now.

What would you call Fox News?

And it’s a lot less fun when Uber won’t give me anything to argue about. All he’s doing now is shifting to insults and dodging questions, which isn’t interesting in the slightest.

A news organization with a conservative slant to it, just like msnbc is a news organization with a liberal slant to it.

So it’s a political propaganda machine, as with all media sources. The acts of prioritizing certain stories and omitting others as well as presenting its own opinions on events of the day are very very much political tools.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Anime Addicts Anonymous (AAA)

Originally posted by 10crystalmask01:

I usually watch anime from sites like Anilinkz and AnimeShow if I’m going for newer shows that has just been released.

Any better sites you guys could name, or tend to use to stream?

http://www.daisuki.net/anime/

limited selection tho

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Rate the song above you. V.2

6/10

Definitely the most entry-level song in their catalog, but still not bad.

https://pwelverumandsun.bandcamp.com/track/slighted-by-mirah

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Rate the song above you. V.2

4/10
Bo Burnham is not funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDjzcuZrr9I

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Anime Addicts Anonymous (AAA)

Was that the one where the kids are forbidden from exploring the lighthouse and the protagonist goes in herself and finds some spiral fuckfest acting as the light at the top or something?

Yup, that’s the one.

Originally posted by yourecutehey:

Thanks for the suggestions but I’ve already read all those, I just didn’t list them

whoa, never expected you to know all of them. In that case, you’ll probably have already read anything I’d rec to you since im not into any of those super obscure carvings.

Mind reccing me something, though? Nickelodeon is probably my favorite manga because of its hazy/feverish mood, and i’m more interested in character-driven stories.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Anime Addicts Anonymous (AAA)

Junji Ito is more funny than anything because of how ridiculous his stuff is, but I really liked Uzumaki or whatever the long spiral story was.

Yeah, that was Uzumaki. And I agree — his stuff can be really hit-or-miss (that lighthouse story in Uzumaki just left me thinking “Okay…”), but when it works, it can be pretty damn chilling.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Anime Addicts Anonymous (AAA)

Originally posted by yourecutehey:

I’ve run out of stuff to read again
I only read manga.Genre Preferences: Seinen/Horror/Psychological/Action (Adventure/Shonen is ok too)
Thematic Preferences: Body Horror/Gore/Game of life or death/Apocalypse/Black Humor/Monsters/Revenge
I can also just read it if it’s really good, but never romance or shoujo.
Expanding on my previous list on page 354 I’ve also read
Franken Fran
Btooom!
Elfen Lied
Kiseijuu
Otogi Matsuri
Inu Yashiki
Sekaioni
Kiwaguro no Brynhildr
Akumetsu
Dendrobates
Homunculus
Mahou Shoujo of the End
Murcielago
Okitenemuru
Imawa no Kuni no Alice

Nickelodeon / The Voynich Hotel

Aku no Hana

Hotel

Anything by Junji “FUCKIN” Ito

Onani Master Kurosawa / Chikan Otoko

Oyasumi Punpun / Solanin

Tokyo Ghoul

edit: Mob Psycho too

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Anime Addicts Anonymous (AAA)

Originally posted by Fishstickz13:

http://charactersort.6te.net/Shaft_sort/shaft.html

I had no idea who “Bebe” or “Sodachi Oikura” were.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Anime Addicts Anonymous (AAA)

Originally posted by SneakPeekz:

heello annime addiicts iiaaaammmmsmdjjjddj i am an annime addiict allso loooool kkssxxhdbrtheebee brtheebee brtheebee is not an anime loooooooool hey annime addiicts haveeeee u watttchhhhh ed ummmm theee art sword online? i no watch that looooklll thats only anime i know okeey? i watch No Yo Maragutsi Keishan High School yesteerdeey andee no like it okeeeeeey? so i dont recoomdnd you watcccch No Yo Maragutsi Keishan High School cuz it bad okeeeeeeeeyeyyyyyyyyy?

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Anime Addicts Anonymous (AAA)

Start with Happy Bivouac, which is their most accessible/acclaimed album and also the one that I own. I copped it for around 2500 yen which is pretty fuckin expensive for a 16 year old album but you could probably just get it off slsk or the /mu/ archive or something. Little Busters seems to be the other Pillows album that people know about, so maybe try that afterward. Living Field, which diverges stylistically from the rest of their discography, is my personal favorite but more obscure than the two records previously mentioned. You could also just listen to the FLCL OST which is great in itself.

I can’t recall songs from specific episodes I’ve seen 2 years ago so I can’t help you with that. But I was under the impression that Hybrid Rainbow was used in the more climactic scenes.


On a side note, I found an eerie Lain themed website that’s really beautiful. it does stuff when you click places.

I haven’t even seen SEL but I like it and it’s anime related

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Anime Addicts Anonymous (AAA)

Speaking of FLCL, i actually bought a Pillows CD and a shoegaze album while i was in Japan. P gr8 stuff

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Anime Addicts Anonymous (AAA)

Originally posted by Meistheman:
Originally posted by Indy111:

I haven’t watched anime in 2 months now, I don’t know any of the current season’s anime. I am completely out of the anime seen now, it is crazy to think. I’ve been busy and quite frankly don’t really have the desire to watch. I still read One Punch Manga but that is it.

I’ve been the same way, as well. For some reason I’m just not really motivated to watch anime as of right now and I don’t have the time either.

I feel the same…still really into manga tho.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Anime Addicts Anonymous (AAA)

Hey man, I’m sorry if I actually did affect you negatively you in some way, I know that I can come off as abrasive but internet debates can be mildly stressful.

I understand and respect your sentiments, but that’s just the problem with switching to words like “progress” from “change”. Progress is much more broadly defined and according to what you draw from the show, what you say can be true. But change is much less loosely defined — as long as something is different from before, including changes in characters’ psyche that don’t lead to “progress”, it still counts as change. What you said about progress can be correct depending on what you drew from the show; however, what changed is nearly always constant (hence “objective”, which I will admit is not the best word to use). In other words: changes that don’t lead to a significant impact on the environment are still changes.

And to reiterate, I have no issues with your opinions on the show. Just that the more “observational” statements you made would probably unfairly drive people away from a show I love.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Anime Addicts Anonymous (AAA)

why the fuck are you getting so offended…it’s common knowledge that when you communicate with another person, especially someone you barely know, you use the most common meaning of a word. How can you expect me or anyone else to understand some obscure meaning with “vectors” on it?

This isn’t about technicalities, it’s literally the whole basis of your argument.

Your whole response is basically ‘When I said “X” I ACTUALLY meant “Y”’. I am basing my response on what common sense interprets your previous statements to be. Since what you ACTUALLY meant diverges from what it should mean in the broadest sense, this obviously means I can’t respond as you can keep on shifting definitions.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Anime Addicts Anonymous (AAA)

Using vector terms, it had distance but lacked displacement. As mentioned above, subjective.

I honestly have no idea what definition you’re using, considering the most widely recognized definition is that it’s

With no mention whatsoever of plot constituting a “force”. I mean, if you’re using your own personalized definition that’s fine…but misleading considering this is a public forum on the www

We will forever disagree on this point.

Alright, but your original statement was that “absolutely nothing” changed. Is what you really mean that things “barely” changed? Because you kind of disprove your own point at the very least when you mention Hachiman’s “epiphany”, which by definition suggests a change from ignorance to enlightenment. How much you value that “change” is irrelevant.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Anime Addicts Anonymous (AAA)

To each his own. You are free to draw whatever conclusion you want and to take meaning where there is none. Likewise I am free to take no meaning where there should be some. It depends on the individual and what they want to take away from a show. More importantly, each person puts different weights on different events. To me nothing that happened in that show was groundbreaking aside from 8man’s realization of his desires, but that shouldn’t be the only thing I get out of a show. I don’t watch a show to see someone work through their personal problems and do nothing with it. I want to watch them learn and apply. This season was only “learn” and was the reason I slashed points.

I never challenged your experience with the show. In fact, the only things I had issues with were these two statements:

It tried too hard to make a plot and it failed spectacularly

In which you were implying it somehow lacked a plot (not possible) and

by the end absolutely nothing was different from the start of the series

which is objectively wrong, which is what my last post was focused around proving.

You may be one of those people who grades a sequel based on a prequel or the derivitive art, but I am not. I grade each season as if it were its own isolated thing but recommend based on the whole.

I mean, if a show requires knowledge from its prequel I won’t “deduct points” from it or anything, but for the most part I do the same.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Anime Addicts Anonymous (AAA)

Bunch of complicated language that people take meaning in but none of it actually means anything

So you’re saying you didn’t understand it? Because from a viewer who did draw meaning this goes against what I experienced.

he felt that way from the very beginning.

Of course, deep below he wanted that connection, like all humans do. You don’t need Psychology101 to figure that out, you just need to be human. But that certainly was not what he had convinced himself, and that wasn’t anything close to how he acted in real life. It was only in the second season that he came to the realization.

There are hundreds of examples in other anime as well as millions of examples in real life.

I can’t think of any anime that addresses this particular misguided “lone wolf” mindset isolated teenagers hold in the same manner that OreGairu does. And when other anime do address it, they always portray it in a positive, encouraging light.

The only thing that changed from the beginning of the anime was that 8man realized this about himself and was now semi-vocal about it.

Except the actual important change is not just that he recognized his problem, or was “semi-vocal” about it but that he starts actively trying to change himself. The 8man of first season would never have bared his raw feelings in front of his friends as he did in S2.

Compare this to the Catcher in the Rye, whose main character is extremely similar to 8man. What really changes in that book? Yeah, Holden ditched school at the beginning of the book. But the whole plot is focused on developing Holden’s misguided, angsty views and eventually turns out to be a story about him slowly abandoning his childish views. Sound familiar? No one needs to die or alter the world for a story to be interesting.

Also, saying it’s the “only thing” that changed is reductive, inaccurate, and a very surface-level assessment. Characters grew and became more self-aware. The whole reason 8man was forced to this decision was that his methods were affecting and ruining his pre-existing relationships. Yukinon is forced to confront her own insecurities and need to depend on other people. We learn more about Hayama and his friends, who are developed further into realistic people with realistic flaws. Sensei basically accomplishes her mission as 8man’s mentor. Yuigahama is forced to choose between romance and their relationship, and chooses to preserve their relationship. These are only the most apparent changes.

As for whether it makes for an interesting plot, I guess that’s down to personal opinion. I certainly thought it was interesting enough. Especially compared to 90% of every other anime out there.

8man may have realized what he wanted all along like a fairy tale princess, but the situation the three of them are in is no different than what it was at the beginning. Everybody now knows what they want, yes, but the situation they all find themselves in is no different from the beginning of the season.

Ultimately the advancement (or lack thereof) completely dragged this season.

Addressed above. If you were the most casual observer of their relationship, I guess you could make this statement.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Anime Addicts Anonymous (AAA)

’gairu spoilers

It tried too hard to make a plot and it failed spectacularly

Can you elaborate on this please? I don’t understand how any narrative, including an anime, can not contain a “plot”.

by the end absolutely nothing was different from the start of the series

Don’t understand this either. This whole season was basically all about change — how can you deny that 8man’s changed incredibly? Before, his whole worldview was based on shielding himself from pain by eschewing and mocking all relationships, but by mid-second season he embraces the same “genuine” relationships he previously looked down on. That’s a complete 180. And it’s also called growing up; Of course his personality’s not going to change drastically or anything, but he’s grown tremendously by basically fixing most of his character flaws from season one. If you can’t call this change, I don’t know what change is.

As for entertaining to a broad audience, well…i’m not exactly in touch with what the majority of anime viewers would enjoy nowadays but it seemed to be wildly popular on the majority of forums i visit (not including Kong). So I can’t really say. But I still recommend it.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Anime Addicts Anonymous (AAA)

Originally posted by MelbourneBoy:
Originally posted by sddsdd:
Originally posted by MelbourneBoy:
Originally posted by Meistheman:

Plastic Nee-San or Senyuu. Both are… intriguing comedy shows.

Thanks. Might check out Senyuu first.

Those two are both shorts- if you want some comedies with normal episode length, try:
Kuragehime, Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun, Seto no Hanayome, Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, Genshiken, Gugure! Kokkuri-san, Detroit Metal City (episodes are half-length but oh well). If you don’t mind a bit of drama with your comedy, also try Yojouhan Shinwa Taikei, Great Teacher Onizuka, and Honey and Clover.

If you’re looking for something else ask away. >__>

Well, the last anime I watch was Bridge to Starry Skies, and that was like back in Feb. It has been quite a while since I last watched any anime. Anyways, is there any new stuff that is worth recommending?

OreGairu

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Anime Addicts Anonymous (AAA)

ugghghg Oregairu is just too good and it’s also pretty much the only show i’ll be watching this year if anime doesn’t step its game up big time with winter season.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Rate the song above you. V.2

4/10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZG5jw36S6o