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Hey man, I’m sorry if I actually did affect you negatively you in some way, I know that I can come off as abrasive but internet debates can be mildly stressful.

I understand and respect your sentiments, but that’s just the problem with switching to words like “progress” from “change”. Progress is much more broadly defined and according to what you draw from the show, what you say can be true. But change is much less loosely defined — as long as something is different from before, including changes in characters’ psyche that don’t lead to “progress”, it still counts as change. What you said about progress can be correct depending on what you drew from the show; however, what changed is nearly always constant (hence “objective”, which I will admit is not the best word to use). In other words: changes that don’t lead to a significant impact on the environment are still changes.

And to reiterate, I have no issues with your opinions on the show. Just that the more “observational” statements you made would probably unfairly drive people away from a show I love.

 
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why the fuck are you getting so offended…it’s common knowledge that when you communicate with another person, especially someone you barely know, you use the most common meaning of a word. How can you expect me or anyone else to understand some obscure meaning with “vectors” on it?

This isn’t about technicalities, it’s literally the whole basis of your argument.

Your whole response is basically ‘When I said “X” I ACTUALLY meant “Y”’. I am basing my response on what common sense interprets your previous statements to be. Since what you ACTUALLY meant diverges from what it should mean in the broadest sense, this obviously means I can’t respond as you can keep on shifting definitions.

 
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Using vector terms, it had distance but lacked displacement. As mentioned above, subjective.

I honestly have no idea what definition you’re using, considering the most widely recognized definition is that it’s

With no mention whatsoever of plot constituting a “force”. I mean, if you’re using your own personalized definition that’s fine…but misleading considering this is a public forum on the www

We will forever disagree on this point.

Alright, but your original statement was that “absolutely nothing” changed. Is what you really mean that things “barely” changed? Because you kind of disprove your own point at the very least when you mention Hachiman’s “epiphany”, which by definition suggests a change from ignorance to enlightenment. How much you value that “change” is irrelevant.

 
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To each his own. You are free to draw whatever conclusion you want and to take meaning where there is none. Likewise I am free to take no meaning where there should be some. It depends on the individual and what they want to take away from a show. More importantly, each person puts different weights on different events. To me nothing that happened in that show was groundbreaking aside from 8man’s realization of his desires, but that shouldn’t be the only thing I get out of a show. I don’t watch a show to see someone work through their personal problems and do nothing with it. I want to watch them learn and apply. This season was only “learn” and was the reason I slashed points.

I never challenged your experience with the show. In fact, the only things I had issues with were these two statements:

It tried too hard to make a plot and it failed spectacularly

In which you were implying it somehow lacked a plot (not possible) and

by the end absolutely nothing was different from the start of the series

which is objectively wrong, which is what my last post was focused around proving.

You may be one of those people who grades a sequel based on a prequel or the derivitive art, but I am not. I grade each season as if it were its own isolated thing but recommend based on the whole.

I mean, if a show requires knowledge from its prequel I won’t “deduct points” from it or anything, but for the most part I do the same.

 
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Bunch of complicated language that people take meaning in but none of it actually means anything

So you’re saying you didn’t understand it? Because from a viewer who did draw meaning this goes against what I experienced.

he felt that way from the very beginning.

Of course, deep below he wanted that connection, like all humans do. You don’t need Psychology101 to figure that out, you just need to be human. But that certainly was not what he had convinced himself, and that wasn’t anything close to how he acted in real life. It was only in the second season that he came to the realization.

There are hundreds of examples in other anime as well as millions of examples in real life.

I can’t think of any anime that addresses this particular misguided “lone wolf” mindset isolated teenagers hold in the same manner that OreGairu does. And when other anime do address it, they always portray it in a positive, encouraging light.

The only thing that changed from the beginning of the anime was that 8man realized this about himself and was now semi-vocal about it.

Except the actual important change is not just that he recognized his problem, or was “semi-vocal” about it but that he starts actively trying to change himself. The 8man of first season would never have bared his raw feelings in front of his friends as he did in S2.

Compare this to the Catcher in the Rye, whose main character is extremely similar to 8man. What really changes in that book? Yeah, Holden ditched school at the beginning of the book. But the whole plot is focused on developing Holden’s misguided, angsty views and eventually turns out to be a story about him slowly abandoning his childish views. Sound familiar? No one needs to die or alter the world for a story to be interesting.

Also, saying it’s the “only thing” that changed is reductive, inaccurate, and a very surface-level assessment. Characters grew and became more self-aware. The whole reason 8man was forced to this decision was that his methods were affecting and ruining his pre-existing relationships. Yukinon is forced to confront her own insecurities and need to depend on other people. We learn more about Hayama and his friends, who are developed further into realistic people with realistic flaws. Sensei basically accomplishes her mission as 8man’s mentor. Yuigahama is forced to choose between romance and their relationship, and chooses to preserve their relationship. These are only the most apparent changes.

As for whether it makes for an interesting plot, I guess that’s down to personal opinion. I certainly thought it was interesting enough. Especially compared to 90% of every other anime out there.

8man may have realized what he wanted all along like a fairy tale princess, but the situation the three of them are in is no different than what it was at the beginning. Everybody now knows what they want, yes, but the situation they all find themselves in is no different from the beginning of the season.

Ultimately the advancement (or lack thereof) completely dragged this season.

Addressed above. If you were the most casual observer of their relationship, I guess you could make this statement.

 
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’gairu spoilers

It tried too hard to make a plot and it failed spectacularly

Can you elaborate on this please? I don’t understand how any narrative, including an anime, can not contain a “plot”.

by the end absolutely nothing was different from the start of the series

Don’t understand this either. This whole season was basically all about change — how can you deny that 8man’s changed incredibly? Before, his whole worldview was based on shielding himself from pain by eschewing and mocking all relationships, but by mid-second season he embraces the same “genuine” relationships he previously looked down on. That’s a complete 180. And it’s also called growing up; Of course his personality’s not going to change drastically or anything, but he’s grown tremendously by basically fixing most of his character flaws from season one. If you can’t call this change, I don’t know what change is.

As for entertaining to a broad audience, well…i’m not exactly in touch with what the majority of anime viewers would enjoy nowadays but it seemed to be wildly popular on the majority of forums i visit (not including Kong). So I can’t really say. But I still recommend it.

 
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Originally posted by MelbourneBoy:
Originally posted by sddsdd:
Originally posted by MelbourneBoy:
Originally posted by Meistheman:

Plastic Nee-San or Senyuu. Both are… intriguing comedy shows.

Thanks. Might check out Senyuu first.

Those two are both shorts- if you want some comedies with normal episode length, try:
Kuragehime, Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun, Seto no Hanayome, Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, Genshiken, Gugure! Kokkuri-san, Detroit Metal City (episodes are half-length but oh well). If you don’t mind a bit of drama with your comedy, also try Yojouhan Shinwa Taikei, Great Teacher Onizuka, and Honey and Clover.

If you’re looking for something else ask away. >__>

Well, the last anime I watch was Bridge to Starry Skies, and that was like back in Feb. It has been quite a while since I last watched any anime. Anyways, is there any new stuff that is worth recommending?

OreGairu

 
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ugghghg Oregairu is just too good and it’s also pretty much the only show i’ll be watching this year if anime doesn’t step its game up big time with winter season.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Rate the song above you. V.2

4/10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZG5jw36S6o

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Daily Topic 2: Music

I like Phil Elverum, Sufjan Stevens, Danny Brown, Cap’n Jazz, Deerhoof, Boris, and Cloud Nothings

I primarily listen to Indie Rock

Mainstream music is what it is. No one who listens to mainstream music takes their taste too seriously so w/e

Songs About My Cats is Venetian Snares’s best album.

 
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I get the feeling you went into Inferno Cop expecting something instead of enjoying it for what it is and tries to be.

Once again I seriously don’t know if you’re being serious. I don’t think anybody watched Inferno Cop with any high expectations in mind. I mean, just look at the artwork…

objectively

Please don’t use that word when you’re talking about media. Especially when you invalidate it later on in the sentence by calling the artwork among other things “bad”. That’s based on your own preferences, there’s nothing objective about it.

Oregairu S2 is pretty average.

I highly disagree. How many RomComs have main characters that are actually as flawed and unsettlingly true to life like 8man? How many shows feature actual multilayered character conflict based on round characters as well as OreGairu does? I think OreGairu understands teenagers and the juvenile ways they see the world in a much more complete and nuanced fashion than almost any other anime out there.

 
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@ Cowfriend what about sexual humor makes it seem forced to you? Or is it just the sexual humor in Gintama specifically?

 
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OreGairu S2 is pretty much God.

it fixes every single issue that Inferno Cop had.

I can’t tell if you’re joking or not.

 
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Originally posted by Seesine:
Originally posted by KiNGDOMHEARST:

i watched my first episode of anime (Oregairu S2) in around 8 months. i thought it would suck but I was very surprised that it did not. :)

MAMORITAI KONO EGAO
8man is the best

man, the second episode was even better than the first. Oregairu so good.

Edit: also I think it’s funny how so many people completely miss the point of the show by idolizing 8man

 
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i watched my first episode of anime (Oregairu S2) in around 8 months. i thought it would suck but I was very surprised that it did not. :)

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Im looking for some music to figure skate to.feel free to post your suggestions.

FIDLAR

 
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The summer season so far looks like it’s going to be absolutely atrocious. Prison School is going to be so bad.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Do you prefer salted or unsalted nuts?

It depends on what type of nut. Almonds are far superior unsalted.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / There is no such thing as "bad taste" (Moral thread)

“I believe the Earth is flat” is more of a self-observation than an opinion. And “The Earth is flat” as a statement is a false claim, not an opinion.

 
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Originally posted by Jozie011:

I always seem to find most anime to be tedious and boring, but I know there are some gems out there. Does anyone know any animes that are similar to Death Note, Gosick, Heaven’s memo pad etc. I really like sort of crime and deduction/case-solving type stuff

Psycho Pass and the Detective Conan manga

 
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Favorite website to read manga?

Batototo

 
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Originally posted by nikolas10161:
Originally posted by KiNGDOMHEARST:
Originally posted by nikolas10161:
Originally posted by KiNGDOMHEARST:
Originally posted by nikolas10161:

What’s a good anime to start with?

It depends. What types of movies/TV shows/books do you usually enjoy?

I’m pretty open minded to new things, but I do find myself enjoying zombie movies and comedies, but when it comes to books they’re mostly for educational purposes rather than enjoyment.

Maybe try Hataraku Maou-sama, Baccano!, or Angel Beats. They’re all light-hearted series that deal with the supernatural.

Sounds good wonder which one I should start with.

Baccano! isn’t a great introduction to anime due to its nonlinear storytelling and Hataraku Maou-sama plays with a few tougher anime tropes so…Angel Beats, maybe? Reactions to it in this thread (and in many other communities) are generally polarized though, so I would suggest watching the first couple of episodes and seeing if it’s your type of thing. If not, I would check out something of a different flavor like Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood or any of those other anime I mentioned earlier.

 
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Originally posted by nikolas10161:
Originally posted by KiNGDOMHEARST:
Originally posted by nikolas10161:

What’s a good anime to start with?

It depends. What types of movies/TV shows/books do you usually enjoy?

I’m pretty open minded to new things, but I do find myself enjoying zombie movies and comedies, but when it comes to books they’re mostly for educational purposes rather than enjoyment.

Maybe try Hataraku Maou-sama, Baccano!, or Angel Beats. They’re all light-hearted series that deal with the supernatural.

 
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Originally posted by nikolas10161:

What’s a good anime to start with?

It depends. What types of movies/TV shows/books do you usually enjoy?

 
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Originally posted by Meistheman:
Originally posted by KiNGDOMHEARST:
Originally posted by Meistheman:
Originally posted by Mikkmar:

He is that famous? Wow

Wait, what? Miyazaki is extremely well known, even among people who don’t watch anime.

I wasn’t aware of that. (The more you know)

You haven’t heard anyone talking about Spirited Away or Howl’s Moving Castle? That’s pretty surprising.

Edit: If I recall correctly his latest movie was also pretty big. It was even featured in Time Magazine.