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Topic: Serious Discussion / The Sexodus

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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

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Topic: Serious Discussion / What the hell is wrong with the country?

youre like a fifth right, then you veer off into jewish banker cAbal, debt as a threat to the nation bs. by placing blame on a definable boogey man, in this instance the bankers, you make it about the removal of a group in order to create the ideal society. “everything would be good if those people went away”. really the issues are systemic, they are central to the functioning of the system of capitalism, and it is only through the complete destruction of the capitalist society that we can be free of these issues

your distain for the common man is palpable,

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

neoliberals seemed to have slipped so far into the fygm mentality, that they cant even correctly preserve their own system of economics. (though the ones with the wealth to be dictating policy are the ones most sheltered from the effects of it so :( )

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What the hell is wrong with the country?

@vikatae: there’s a difference between those who’d strongly identify with a political position within the spectrum of liberalism in spite of knowledge of the alternatives available and the crimes committed every minute to keep liberalism rolling and those raised in a neoliberal orthadoxy and have never examined the reality behind the status quo. The latter can be reasoned with, but those who know the realities behind the liberal status quo and do not oppose it are unreasonable. those who defend liberalism while knowing the way that is is able to keep operating are defending the indefensible.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What the hell is wrong with the country?

fucking lol on the idea of a civil war between liberals and spiteful liberals (aka conservatives). what’d be the ideological disagreement? one side wanting to shit on poors and minorities, while the other wants to shit on poors and minorities while pretending to like them? hahaha

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

cut off nose to spite face, crab mentality, align with the ones oppressing you because you have never known any better.

anyone, myself included, who’s not ultra wealthy and does not support the end of capitalism (in this instance meaning universal health care. not freaking obama care lol) is basically a house nigger

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What the hell is wrong with the country?

Originally posted by stanwise:
Originally posted by jhco50:

Obama, who is more than likely a Muslim

You know, up until now, I actually thought you were a reasonable conservative, not a right-wing conspiracy nut. Thanks for showing your true colors so I know to take everything you say with a grain of salt!

there is no such way as a reasonable conservative, just as theres no such thing as a reasonable liberal (of which conservatives are a subset).

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / White teen killed by black cop!!

riots and looting are intrinsically good things, they sre the underclasses pent up ennui and suppression bursting out against the chains that bind them. Any extrajudicial state-murder is worthy of protest, and when it fits in the nexus of race relations (or other maligned minority, excl poors as anyone likely to be killed by a cop will be poor in adition to their other marginalised statuses) it is more worthy of protest & riots (insofar as it deals with multiple issues and thus has an intersectional value to it). though ultimately, without class conciousness and the identification of those who oppress the masses, riots achieve little to no lasting effect.

the moral is that you should protest, smash the chains that bind you. kill your boss, burn police stations, eat the wealthy, etc.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Louis Head needs to be arrested for inciting riot.

as a uk expat, i do keep abreast, to some extent on the goings on there, incl. the police situation. While they are less fucked than in other places, such as with their being unarmed (iirc they still have less than lethal options though, such as tasers and clubs). They’re still mighty quick to stomp on heads come protests and unneccesarily escalate conflicts (though with only less than lethal options available, there is a limit to that too).

You’re right wrt the other vital roles played by police, which is why i only write them off under this (and many other) non representative form of govt. Ideally, police would be able to serve a role of community service such as the case you have outlined without also being used to intimidate or persecute sections of the community.

I guess i’m especially salty as i’ve been witness to the growing desplays of police force as a means of intimidation in my area, seeing multiple police cars a day roaming the streets (recently i got stalked down 2 streets by a police car before they jumped out and talked to me for 30 minutes because they thought it suspicious that i was walking around, i guess cuz most people drive or something), there have been 3 police killings in the past few days in my city and i saw an apc in desert camo filled with soldiers driving down the motorway. so my trust for them is possibly as low as it can go, however, there are certainly legitimate roles for police or police like organisations, just they seem to be marginalised by the objectionable functions in my recent experience

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Louis Head needs to be arrested for inciting riot.

people in law enforcement are, no doubt, people first and foremost. However, by being in law enforcement, such as with folks who join the army, they are, wittingly or otherwise, instruments of the state’s will against those who would challenge such a thing. Since the state, as it currently exists, only represents a tiny minority of the population it manages, the police enforce the will of that minority onto the majority that they do not represent. Their means of enforcing this will is through the use of violent force.

Further, as a position of power, where their actions are largely less scrutinised than those of non-police citizens, the [police force tends to attract the kind of people who will abuse any small position of power they get over anyone they can. however i am willing to admit that there are law enforcement personel who do not fit that description, however they are likely complicit in the ability of the previous group to get away with what they get away with.

I must, grudingly, admit that i was being hyperbolic in my comments earlier as there are theoretically innocent police officers in the “forgive them father for they know not what they do” sense. and that as cathartic as killing coppers would be, it wouldn’t achieve the neccesary structural changes to allow for a more representative state, which is ultimately the core of the problem.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Should good behaviour be taught at school?

any teaching of good behaviour in schools is entirely conditioning kids to unconditionally accept authority, though often this only half works (in so far as the boundaries authority is tested, but it is never properly challenged by students). good behaviour ought be the development of moral axioms and then the logical application of those axioms, regardless of which entrenched power groups those challenge, and the self-reflexivity to denaturalise one’s own opinions and the cultural norms of the society in which they have existed their whole life so as to avoid double standards and for kids to be capable of questioning the underlying inconsistencies within the ideological framework of their society

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

obamacare is a failure in that it is the state propping up and supporting private industry through forcing people to purchase insurance, meaning the state is legislating the transfer of capital from the poor to the wealthy directly. obamacare makes it a crime for people to not further enrich to the already obscenely wealthy. obamacare should have been the complete destruction of the unethical & usurious practice of private healthcare & the arrest or execution of those who profiteered from and enabled the profiteering from the private healthcare racket (this includes the many govts in the past 30+ years who legislated in favour of the current fucked up state of affairs).

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Louis Head needs to be arrested for inciting riot.

anyone who would seek to do harm to a member of law enforcement is probably of better character than anyone within law enforcement. michael brown’s only crime will be if his martyrdom doesn’t lead to significant numbers of dead or injured cops

 

Topic: Serious Discussion / Louis Head needs to be arrested for inciting riot.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / is feminism becoming an excuse for women to be sexist

radical feminism is certainly responsible for rape/Domestic Assault laws, business handouts and paternity cases. curious how radical feminism recreates and reinforces patriarchal notions of women as being physically weak and non-violent and in need of male support (financially and physically).

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Political Correctness as a Barrier to Communication

why cant i call people niggers anymore? our founding fathers fought and died for that right! the troops didn’t get bombed in pearl harbour just so that political correctness could take that away from us! this is a sad day for america

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / is feminism becoming an excuse for women to be sexist

Why does the op hate women? did suzy refuse to go to middle-school prom with him and he’s been salty ever since?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Quick political question

youve figured out why im not an anarchist, and tbf, youre describing one form of anarchism, whereas the actual political belief is far more nuanced. Anarcho syndicalism is far more attainable than pure anarchism, anarcho collectivism is far more socially concious than others & and anarcho capitalism is for dumb retard babies. I am a Marxist-Leninist, by and large, with some trotskyist elements; because i believe some centralization is neccesary for a non-primative society to adequately provide goods to all citizens. anarchism is a bit too pie in the sky for me, but i am willing to have them as allies

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Quick political question

Originally posted by Kasic:

Out of curiosity urine, what would you consider radically left? Pure anarchy (no government whatsoever)?

Anarchism, basically. the rest of the people here seem to view the status quo of capitalism as being centrist, which is a notion i fundamentally disagree with. At best, social democracy is at best centrist, as it doesn’t do away with bosses, but rebalances the power relationship somewhat. Until the means of production are owned by workers, the viewpoint cannot be leftist, levels of governmental involvement determine how radically leftist it is.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Quick political question

radical liberalism is far right, only thing further right is authoritarian fascism. the tea party is radically liberal, approaching fascist. There is no radical leftism in the united states, only the far right and the further right exist. to even think of the democrats or their supporters as being radically left is dumb as shit.

but aside from all that, radical positions tend to be more internally consistent than non radical positions. social democrat reformists claim they are for minority groups, but at the same time promote the capitalist system which enslaves those minority groups. Authoritarians are shit, but at least their open about their hard on for enslaving the majority for the benefit of the few aristocrats; the dems and GOP will never admit that they hold the same position, despite actively working towards it.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Prostitution

Originally posted by Helltank:

That is utter bullshit and you know it.

whats your rebuttal?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Prostitution

Rich people have more agency, so their crimes should be punished higher even on the percentage system. people like palmer or rinehart should be executed if they do so much as jaywalk (or one of the bullshit laws they use to jail blacks and poors, like the going to the pub w family law)

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Prostitution

Vika, to discuss prostitution devoid of its larger context would take less than a sentence. “in a truly equal society, any person should be able to engage in prostitution if that is what they wish”. it’s not a very interesting argument and doesn’t get to the meat and potatoes of the current reality. In a society fundamentally built upon inequality and the need of money just to keep your head above water, entering into prostitution is not an “uncompelled act”, financial reality plays a large part in why many women (and men, but in far fewer numbers due to patriarchal structures) enter into the sex industry.

discussing anything outside of the larger picture is all but meaningless. if you view things at a granular and isolated level, i wonder how the world is anything other than nonstop surprise and confusion for you.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Prostitution

Originally posted by vikaTae:

His end argument was even worse. That if a woman chooses to have sex with a man of her own free will, then she is being sexually assaulted in every definition except the legal one.

That’s not what i said. if you’re financially compelled to have sex with someone in order to survive, that’s not consent. In a system where you can have the options of doing something, or starving (or any other survival related financial problem, like not having money to pay for surgery), then anyone would “choose” the former. Its not a real choice though, it’s a threat more than anything. Being forced to have sex at gunpoint is the same sort of situation as being required to have sex to survive financially.