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Topic: Serious Discussion / Sex and you.

I seriously forgot how conservative much of the US is with regards to sex (and a whole fuckload of other things, but this is neither the time nor the place for that). It’s weird to me to see people who literally don’t believe in sex before marriage or sex for pleasure, given my existence within a (marginally) less conservative country.

I personally view sex as a pleasurable activity that can also be a meaningful one. As such, I am totes pro-sex-before-marriage and prostitution. That’s not to say that there aren’t some societal problems with regards to sex in much of the Western world. There’s a strong rape culture, both in general society and particularly in pornography, and it makes defending the sex-positive viewpoint harder. The way that sexuality has developed in western world and the hegemony we are all subject to is almost definitely a destructive element. Power/dominance and eroticism are so deeply entangled in our society, that it is hard to imagine sexual relationships outside of the sub/dom dichotomy; and our culture further ingrains that notion.

Sex falls under one of those things that is not intrinsically negative; but which the Western cultural hegemony and the influence of a class system has damaged. Without a complete overhaul of society, we will remain in a rape-culture, the symptoms of which can be seen both in the sex-negative attitudes of the conservative/religious-right and in the subjugation of women seen within pornography and the sex industry.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Transgender Pro Fighter

Originally posted by karmakoolkid:
Read esp. what vika said…
Others paralleled her, BUT she—working in kinetics as her profession—gives the best description of the “body-mechanics” advantages of the (originally?) male physique & why it is “superior” in particular aspects to those of women.

She offers quite the treatise on how much more than just “plumbing” changes goes into gender-reassignment….pointing out how the basic “gender”-hormones change and influence quite a lot of areas of the body. But, that those skeletal structures just probably won’t. Sure, muscle mass can….but not the leverage factors.

It’s an interesting point, skeletal structure, but I think excepting her from competition because of it sets a poor precedent. I don’t know much about biology, I’ve never been the science type, and I only have cursory knowledge of how physiology affects sports, but isn’t excepting her because she has a certain body type (formerly biologically male) similar to preventing people from competing due to other factors like build? Maybe there’s more to it, but I’d have thought that physiology would vary more between individuals than between genders.

It kind of seems like the physiology/unfairness angle is one that would be leveraged by transphobic people in an attempt to legitimize their bigotry. (Not that I am saying that is what Vika is doing; though it is almost certainly what the OP is doing)

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Transgender Pro Fighter

Originally posted by karmakoolkid:
Originally posted by urine420:

She’s a woman, she should compete with women. It’s not hard to figure out, idiots.

Ya haven’t been reading along w/ us, have ya?

Nah, only read the OP and skimmed a few other posts. Sorry, I’ll try to be more thorough in the future.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Transgender Pro Fighter

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Can Communism Work?

Originally posted by jhco50:

Here we go again. Let me give you an example of Obama’s socialistic phone give away. You don’t have to qualify for it, at least there are very few needed. Now what do these welfare people do with those phones? Let’s see, they sell them for cash, trade them for drugs or alcohol, and oh yes…buy expensive handbags.

You mean the subsidized phone plan which was started under Ronald Reagan and expanded under Bush Jr.? Yep, Obummer sure is turning America into the USSA.

(If Obama was actually a communist/socialist, as opposed to being a neo-liberal corporate whore, he’d be a far better president. As it stands, he’s basically a black George W. Bush)

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Team Siren (feminist gamers it seems...)

Literally everyone here is a misogynist. You’ll never hear a well adjusted person refer to a woman as a female outside of medical discussions. hth

Also, anyone who uses feminist as a pejorative is a fuckin’ asshole and needs to check their privilege ASAP.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / How much should the goverment do to control extremist groups?

Originally posted by jhco50:

Karma, these posters are right, you are an abrasive individual with an ego the size of the universe. Yet you really never discuss anything, just act like an ass to anyone who disagrees with you. You should stop posting if you can’t debate a subject without attacking the opposition with your inane lack of knowledge about most things. Try just answering their posts and leave out the ridicule and name calling. I have seen several threads that you are posting on and nowhere have I see you do anything but denigrate people.

As long as you refute the points, who gives a fuck what insults you use? Far as I can see, being insulting isn’t a problem as long as it comes along side reasoned arguments. Purely being insulting is Ad Hominem, otherwise it’s fair game. Get over yourself, bro.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Excessive cursing

Originally posted by jhco50:

Cussing is a way for people with weak vocabularies to express themselves. They feel empowered when they cuss in front of women and children…makes them feel more manly.

Don’t be fucking dense. It’s a useful part of language like any other. Sure, you could call someone a silly sausage, but it lacks the impact of the term disingenuous cunt. It is a great way to weaponise words, and only those with interest in the tone policing of arguments stand against it.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Was Anne Frank's diary a fake? And how does this affect those who believe in the holocaust?

Originally posted by Jantonaitis:

Sidenote: I know you’re zaminic, and I know you’re from OT, and I know you must think you’re being a really clever troll. But you aren’t. Nobody in this thread has gotten angry or offended. You’re just an idiot.

See Draco, this is NOT a troll you want to emulate. Mafefe would be a much better rolemodel, IMO. Or are they the same person? Whatever, I just like mafefe’s stuff better.

It’s strange, Zam’s been here since I first joined in ‘08 and in that entire time his methodology has not changed at all. Mafefe on the other hand keeps things fresh and always seems like having fun with what he’s doing is more important than anything else. Mafefe just seems like a much more interesting guy to spend time with, to be honest; whereas Zam has remained a boring kid who says “controversial” things to seem edgy.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / How Far Should We Be Pushing Our Ideals?

Originally posted by Ungeziefer:

My problem with that is the use of the word “citizens”. It would be citizens financing these para military bodies, but, customers. Haliburton could just hire out paramilitary contracts directly to dispose of say, rival businesses, people/things in the way of natural resource acquisition, or critics of their policies.

To expand on this point: Shit like this is already happening, dude. Coca Cola, or the company behind them, is known to have hired far-right militias to kill people who were organizing unions in Colombia. They killed 9 people in the name of profit and, if the cost-benefit adds up, they’ll likely kill more when the opportunity presents itself. That’s why regulation is necessary, because Capitalism, at its core, is amoral. It doesn’t care for people, it is purely a numbers game. If the numbers add up, then it will crush and destroy to achieve its aims. Regulation makes capitalism accountable, not very accountable, but more accountable than pure Laissez Faire markets.

Personally, I don’t want to see Capitalism in any form in the world, as an amoral system governing global actions terrifies me. A system based in morality, accountable to the people is what I want. One that has duty to care for people and provide everyone with the good life. Unfortunately, that’s not likely to happen, but a man can dream. But at the very least, it should be obvious, given the overwhelming evidence, that unregulated capitalism is a scourge. Trickymist, you’re still a kid; hell, you believe in a just world fallacy and the lie of the meritocracy, but surely you can understand how these issues can arise within your Randian Utopia. You have time and the capacity to change your mind and to look at the bigger picture.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Fingerprint police state

Originally posted by jhco50:

our government has gotten permission to use drones to kill Americans if they are suspected of being a terrorist. They have killed four Americans as I write this.

Extra-judicial killings matter, whether it’s americans that are killed or not. And who cares if they used drones. It seems hypocritical that you don’t like the current extra-judicial murders perpetrated by the state, but didn’t mind it when Bush was doing it.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What is the current quality of this forum to you?

Originally posted by jhco50:

I don’t even lurk here much as I have come to the conclusion it is a completely liberal site with tolerance only for the oddball subjects that go against everything society has taught.

Socially liberal, maybe, but it’s still all neo-libs and corporate whores in here. People who believe that arbeit macht frei. Just because people here don’t slut-shame or hate homos, doesn’t mean they are left of centre.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / How Far Should We Be Pushing Our Ideals?

Originally posted by Trickymist98:

It loses billions of dollars a year annually.
You’re literally trying to literally excuse a literal government program that literally loses literal billions of literal dollars a year, literally.

If you literally can’t think of a literal way to defend this literal program other than “People literally are just making it harder so they can literally privatize” then you’re literally out of luck, literally.
Also, I literally like how you literally dodged the other 5/6’s of my literal post.

You’re being disingenuous. Actually look up the 2006 Postal Accountability and Enhansement act before you start running your mouth, kid. That is the only reason the US Post Service is losing money, and you’d be a fool to think otherwise. If you want me to argue the rest of your ill conceived points, then here goes nothing.

Healthcare:

Check that out; your health care system charges people several thousand dollars all because they got raped. That’s necessary treatment to prevent or reduce the risk of infection of sexually transmitted diseases for someone who was sexually violated. There are people in your country going into debt in order to have the privilege of not being sick or dying; how the fuck can you defend that? In your country, healthcare is only good if you’re part of a tiny minority who can afford it, the rest of the people in your country suffer so that a few can live it large, profit and grow fat. It’s fucking disgusting, privatized healthcare places a monetary value on human life that is out of the reach of the vast majority of Americans. Do you want to hear the punchline to this farcical joke? Don’t worry, it’s not “the aristocrats”, even though it might as well be.

You fuckers are paying more and getting less for it. Ain’t that funny. Cuba has a higher life expectancy because people aren’t dying for being too poor to deserve life. America is way behind the rest of the developed world in life expectancy, and you’re arguing that you’ve got a better health care system. ell oh ell.

Military: Your military is mostly privatized, you know? Well, not the jacks and jills in khakis, but everything else sure. It’s called the military industrial complex; where private arms manufacturers with a lot of sway in the government get payed buckets to make the shit that fuels current international wars. Why the fuck are you in Iraq and Afghanistan? It’s not because of terrorism, or “stabilizing the region”. It’s because it justifies funneling public moolah into the pockets of the arms industry. America spends the greatest amount in the world for their “defence” (read: war) programs, and what do they get out of it? A foreign policy platform which kills thousands of civilians annually in worthless invasions to foreign soil. There’s no benefit for the American public to the US’s military actions, the only ones who benefit are the industries that get phat dough from them.

Power: Here’s a fun one. Let’s talk Australia, ‘cuz that’s where I live, it’s what I know. It, like much of the western world, has been going down a neo-liberal privatize everything path for the past few years. I’d personally argue that Keating started it, but that’s a contentious point. Anyhoo, in my state, power has been mostly privatized, and as a result prices have gone up, up up! Yes, for the average joe blow on the street, the privatization of power only serves to make him poorer. Running an industry for a profit means that the providers will provide the cheapest service possible (for them) for the highest cost possible (to the consumer). You see this in telecommunications, where our phone lines are rusting in the ground cased in asbestos and falling apart, because it’s not financially viable for a private organization with profit rather than service in mind to replace them with fibre-optics.

On another note, with power and privatization. Australia is a country that could easily go full solar power within a decade. So, given that we’re raping the planet to burn coal to further rape the planet, why hasn’t the good ol’ commonwealth done this? because of the mining industry, silly. The mining industry has a vice-like grip on my govt and doesn’t want solar power reducing the profits of their black rocks. destroying the planet in the name of a few years of profit. Ich liebe kapitalismus.

Mortgages and Lending: Australia, again, because it is what I am familiar with! So, there was this bank called “Commonwealth Bank” and wouldn’t you guess it, it was a government run bank for much of its life. Now, in 1991, the government decide to sell it off and wholly privatize it for god knows what reason. (fuckin’ Paul Keating) Resulting from this was, and hold onto your ass cuz this is going to shock you, an increase in rates and consumer unfriendly practices. whoo! Yep, when you stop providing services with the end of supporting the average joe blow, and instead make them have the end of making fat stacks of cash, shit goes tits up. Well, for the average person. There are bastard mammonites at the top rolling in moolah and eating caviar, but they ain’t really people, they’re leaches.

Education: Let’s talk private and public education. This one will be a bit more in depth, I think, because I got some good shit to say on the subject. First: what does cash money do for education? More money allows for the employment of more teachers per student, meaning that you don’t see the sort of overpopulation problems that many public schools have. It also provides the resources to properly care for students who need special attention and for teachers to be able to do their jobs properly. Now, this all sounds like it’s in favour of privatization, but, as always, there’s a catch. You see, if education is run as a business, ie. it needs to make money, then any profit it makes doesn’t get put back into the system to improve the school. It’s the old capitalist motto of as cheap as possible, as pricy as possible. It also unfairly benefits rich people who can afford to go to expensive institutions which means that they get more opportunities to become richer while the poor become poorer. Private education is a tool which create further income inequality and stratifies the people into the haves and the have nots. its great for the few and destructive for the many.

As a final, unrelated point: All this points to the fundamental problem of capitalism. it is a device which reinforces hierarchy and castes and disproportionately punishes the majority of people. it is a mentality of keine mehrheid für die mitleid and randian independence and rational self interest which ignores the co-operative nature of human society. a capitalist society is one in which many suffer so that a few can live the good life and one that deliberately arranges itself to be exclusive. The only reason to be a capitalist is if you’re deluding yourself into believing that you could, one day, win your way into the privileged elite. The selfish notion that you could dine on caviar and own an expensive car while hundreds of thousands suffer and die for your prosperity can only be called sociopathy, but is often referred to as “the american dream”. If capitalism doesn’t fall in my lifetime, it will be a personal failing.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / How Far Should We Be Pushing Our Ideals?

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Topic: Serious Discussion / What is the current quality of this forum to you?

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Fingerprint police state

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Topic: Off-topic / Fake tits

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Topic: Off-topic / Fake tits

you are incapable of introspection

 
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Topic: Off-topic / The Official Birthday thread *ElishaKitty*

Originally posted by ritzfitz91:

but they are almost guaranteed to be bad
very bad
too bad

no such thing as a bad joke, just bad people. palmiswhatshisface is bat people bee tee dubs. ;p

 
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Topic: Off-topic / The Official Birthday thread *ElishaKitty*

Originally posted by ritzfitz91:

xd g1 palm

jokes aren’t subject to entropy

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Fake tits

Originally posted by PALMISANOLDR:

Did you just looked in the urban dictionary to find out what a goon is?

UD is useful when you need to explain to people what a stranger is without sounding like you yourself do it.

 
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