Recent posts by Tetsuo_Shima on Kongregate

Topic: Wartune / Do you know the players of this game are gradually quitting? Can you feel it?

As far as I can tell after each ‘update’ a whole bunch of players quit.

At server 2, lvl65 mage and 50.5k br, I’m having a very hard time finding arena groups, finding spire runs, finding Den runs and an almost impossible time finding DT groups. Sometimes I stalk the areas for half an hour to an hour (which is pure wasted time), nothing to see. I start runs myself, no one shows up. Even the time when I try to do this doesn’t seem to matter, tried at various time throughout the day for several days.

At this point the game really is dying. As far as I can tell the only people who are actually still running actively without spending insane amounts of time creating a viable group are the ones who always run with the same people. Thus, dead game is dead, it’s only a matter of time before it is so dead that it’s truly beyond dead.

Topic: Kongregate / Users determine what games are made, not developers.

Originally posted by adv0catus:

We know why:

http://developers.kongregate.com/blog/newbie-to-big-spender-understanding-the-player-lifecycle

That was a very interesting presentation. Not just for developers, but also for players, as it explains perfectly how people get drawn into spending exorbitant amounts for goods that objectively aren’t really worth it. Some things I’d figured out by myself over the years, there are definitely some new angles in that presentation though. And once you figure out how it works, it helps keeping yourself in check. Definitely a must see for anyone who’s ever played an mmo on Kong and paid for ingame items.

Topic: Technical Support / Scene of the crime

The link on the front page for said game points to:

http://developers.kongregate.com/games/Pastelgames/scene-of-the-crime-dream-of-murder

ie. a developers page

Easy enough to manually edit the url, but it probably was not intended that way.

ed.: seems to be fixed now

Topic: Wartune / [Info] Bugs

And yes, arena is still not working today on EST servers, so I’m going to go out on a limb and predict that battlegrounds still won’t be working either.

Topic: Wartune / [Info] Bugs

It turns out it’s not just arena, the battlegrounds aren’t working either….

Topic: Wartune / Arena

confirmed and agreed

Topic: Wartune / [Info] Bugs

Currently on Server 2, est server, it is impossible to start party arena. People can enter rooms, can click ready, but clicking the start button does…. nothing! This is not an isolated incident, it is not working for everyone on the entire server!

Not a very big deal normally, but there is an event going on which requires 10 battles and not everyone has the ability to be on line at 1800!!

Topic: Wartune / Observations from a free player

I’ve been playing this game very actively for a while now. These are some of the things I’ve learned while playing, which might be good for new players to take into account (however doubtful it is that they’ll read this beforehand).

First of all, if you’re going to play for free, you should realise that once you hit 45k BR, you will completely run out of steam. 45k seems to be the limit that’s possible to attain in 3 months (give or take a few weeks) for a free player. After that, the amount of effort required to gain strength will be so big, that in the time you gain 100 (useful) strength, cashers will have gotten at least 5 times that amount, if not more. So once you reach that point in the game, your usefulness will expire quickly (not taking into account other usefulness factors, such as starting rage etc, purely strength-wise). This means, if you’re planning on playing this game for the long haul, you had better be prepared to pay, or realise that after a few months you’ll reach a limit that you will not cross in any meaningful way. So, that’s 3 months of play where you will not be able to keep up with cashers, but will still be able to have some use if you play smart, after that it’s game over for you. You can either decide to stagnate, or if you have the willpower for it start the cycle over on a new server, or completely abandon the game.

Second observation is that archers get all the goodies, other servers have noticed this as well, and it’s no surprise that archers are the more prevalent class on the Chinese servers. So, if you’re going to play this game, go with the archer class. You will generate gold at a rate that is at least 50% higher than any other class and gold is the prime ingredient to get stronger in this game. On top of that, since the introduction of clothes, higher starting rage and WB-bonus power, the archer advantage has grown even larger than it was beforehand. On top of that, archers are crucial to all higher level dungeons, other classes can be left behind if need be, archers are always necessary.

If you’re playing this game and you decide you like it and would like to pay to make the experience more pleasurable, start paying as soon as possible, the sooner you start, the bigger the benefit, in terms of vip, gold-gain, xp-gain, …

Closing recommendation: if you want to play this game and want to be a successful and competitive player: choose archer as your class, get vip right from the start, get wings asap, put some clothes on, play actively. That combination of things will let you be an extremely strong player, even if you decide to only pay a little (say $20/ month on average). You will likely be a top 20 player on your server after a month or 3 by playing like that.

If you really do not like playing as an archer, you can be equally potent playing as a different class, it will however cost you A LOT more money.

Enjoy!

(addendum to make up for something I forgot to mention, as has been pointed out in the post below, the above reasoning in terms of top-list location goes if you start playing on a ‘new’ server, say within the the first 3 weeks of its launch, starting on a server after 1 month of its launch isn’t worth it anyway if don’t want to be run over all the time)

Topic: Technical Support / Achievments.

Click the missing achievement link on the game page and provide the requested material. After it’s been checked, you will receive your achievement. The link url looks like: http://www.kongregate.com/feedbacks/new?game_id=#insert_game_id_here#&type=MissingAccomplishmentFeedback

Topic: Wartune / Divine Altar Battle Report

Originally posted by djigovski:

Originally posted by Tetsuo_Shima:

Erm… Whut? Least amount of skill?? Least amount of effort?? Least amount of time?? The only thing I’ll agree upon is least amount of money, since I’m a free player, all the rest you’re saying there is pure BS.

And yes, DA is a guild event, and as such you want to help your guild reach the highest floor possible, which, if you’re a mage, really isn’t helping a lot because you’re taking waaaay too much time to kill a mob and are thus hampering your guilds efforts to get to a higher floor because the time will run out because you’re killing stuff too slow.

From everything you’re saying it seems very clear that your character isn’t a high level yet, because in all honesty, mages cannot 3-run mp dungeons at all (not even cashing mages), it’s far easier for archers to 4-run, 3-run with knight or mage mp dungeons than the other way around, FAR easier, even more so if they happen to be cashing archers. More starting rage has a dramatic effect on their capabilities, while for mages the effect is very mediocre at best.

I’m just gonna have to repeat myself and tell you that you’re really not thinking things through.

You’re totally wrong about last part of your post. Try to do not 3 just 1 run of GoD or TL without a mage or without a tank. And think about doing MD or DT without a mage. It’s much possible to do them with tanking archers or mages than without mage. Now let’s remember for Badlands it cannot be done without a mage too.
Anyways people in most times are searching for mage ‘cause 1st they’re less in numbers for late levels than tanks and archers in overall, 2nd they cannot be subtitute by any other class.

Clearly you’re misinformed, people on my server run moonevil den with 4 archers all the time (while it is completely impossible for 4 mages to run moonevilden)…. They get it done just as easily and a lot faster than if they let other classes join… More benefit from their xp scrolls. GoD can be very hard without a mage (but it’s equally hard if not harder to do it without an archer), I’ll give you that much, because of the last boss who splits in an mdef and a pdef one. You don’t need a mage or a knight for lair either, nor do you need either for badlands. I don’t know about demon temple, haven’t gotten that far yet, all I hear is that it’s insanely hard, so quite likely you’ll need all classes for that one.

Topic: Technical Support / Cinematic Mode unavailable

Poor Zshadow catching unwarranted flak. The life of a community admin is rough. xD

Topic: Technical Support / Cannot load Fantasy Online

Sounds a bit like a ‘phone home’ issue. If the game is trying to connect to their servers for whatever reason and you can’t reach their servers and the game decides it doesn’t want to run if you can’t reach their servers, that would cause such an issue. It’s just a guess though, but since you can’t open their own site and plenty of flash games have ‘phone home’ behaviours, that was what came to mind.

Topic: Kongregate / Wheres 50$ recharge?

Originally posted by bobby71983:

Originally posted by Tetsuo_Shima:

Originally posted by mosemizrahi:

Originally posted by Dukate:

Hello Kong, Hello Forum,

since I recharged my account once for 250$, I cant recharge it for 50$ anymore, thats very sad cause most of the time I recharged 50$, now I only can chose between 5, 20, 100, 250 and 500 Dollar. How do I get the 50$ back, is there any way?

Greets,

Dukate

Recharge 20 for two times and 5 for two times. 20+20+5+5=50

That won’t work, unless you’re happy to lose out on the bonus kreds.

And $500 recharge? O_o
What nutter would spend $500 on silly flash games… :o
Shouldn’t be an option at all, can’t go indulging nutters, now can we, where will it end. LOL

Not that argument again..“silly flash games”

People waste more than $500 on crap they don’t need all the time. The worst thing is most of those people don’t even realize it. At least with this $500 you know what you are getting.

‘T was really just a funny afterthought to the actual question you’re nitpicking about.
But erm, your argument is even worse, it’s not because people spend money on stupid things that aren’t silly flash games, that spending money on stupid things which are silly flash games is an excuse or great way to spend money on. And if you’re paying something and you don’t know what you’re getting, that’s even worse. Which I’m actually pretty sure off is in fact happening for people who spend quantities of money on silly flash games to the amount of $500 and more (since the games that lend themselves to such large quantities are usually flash mmo’s and they get updated regularly (if they’re to survive), so you in fact do NOT know what you’re investing money in and how much worth your investment will still have after the next upgrade). It’s their money, I don’t mind them doing that and Kong makes money off of it, so it’s all good, but that doesn’t mean that it’s a smart thing to do. Arguing that it IS in fact a smart thing to do, well, there are no words for that. =D

Topic: Kongregate / Wheres 50$ recharge?

Originally posted by mosemizrahi:

Originally posted by Dukate:

Hello Kong, Hello Forum,

since I recharged my account once for 250$, I cant recharge it for 50$ anymore, thats very sad cause most of the time I recharged 50$, now I only can chose between 5, 20, 100, 250 and 500 Dollar. How do I get the 50$ back, is there any way?

Greets,

Dukate

Recharge 20 for two times and 5 for two times. 20+20+5+5=50

That won’t work, unless you’re happy to lose out on the bonus kreds.

And $500 recharge? O_o
What nutter would spend $500 on silly flash games… :o
Shouldn’t be an option at all, can’t go indulging nutters, now can we, where will it end. LOL

Topic: Wartune / Divine Altar Battle Report

Originally posted by alveolate:

you certainly seem to expect your character to do everything and stay at the top with the least amount of effort / skill / time / money. but you still did not reply my last comment: DA doesn’t give huge bonuses ultimately. how much EXP are you expecting from DA?

indeed, mages ARE disadvantaged when facing single-targets — that’s the tradeoff for mages having an obscene advantage versus large mobs. with heals and aoe, mages still clear dungeons and catacombs faster and earlier than everyone else. it is far easier for a mage to form a 3-run MPD than the others. don’t you think these things should also factor in?

i realise my single-target argument is weak… no doubt, without thunderer, single-target mage is just not very viable. i merely offered a possible alternate non-cash partial-build for DA. admittedly, bolt – restore – suntoria isn’t going to cut it.

lastly, DA is a guild event. if you really want to kill more mobs, isn’t it possible at all to ask your faster-killing guildies to leave you some mobs? try adapting to the situation instead of simply dissing it as unfair. some of the inherent disadvantages can be balanced out with cooperative play.

Erm… Whut? Least amount of skill?? Least amount of effort?? Least amount of time?? The only thing I’ll agree upon is least amount of money, since I’m a free player, all the rest you’re saying there is pure BS.

And yes, DA is a guild event, and as such you want to help your guild reach the highest floor possible, which, if you’re a mage, really isn’t helping a lot because you’re taking waaaay too much time to kill a mob and are thus hampering your guilds efforts to get to a higher floor because the time will run out because you’re killing stuff too slow.

From everything you’re saying it seems very clear that your character isn’t a high level yet, because in all honesty, mages cannot 3-run mp dungeons at all (not even cashing mages), it’s far easier for archers to 4-run, 3-run with knight or mage mp dungeons than the other way around, FAR easier, even more so if they happen to be cashing archers. More starting rage has a dramatic effect on their capabilities, while for mages the effect is very mediocre at best.

I’m just gonna have to repeat myself and tell you that you’re really not thinking things through.

Topic: Wartune / Clothing haters thread. (Protest/Petition)

Originally posted by feibiao:

u can achieve their standard but it just takes time ^^.

wrong! doesn’t even require an explanation because it’s trivial.

Topic: Wartune / Astral Capture Theory from a Guide on R2

I actually read and tried that the other day, didn’t all the way up to 5-4-3-2, got only as far as 4-3-2, only tried it once too, so not a significant observation, but it didn’t seem to change my odds at all.

Topic: Wartune / Divine Altar Battle Report

lvl40 pve is totally irrelevant…
The lvl40 jewels are equally irrelevant, at least for free players (they need to save tokens for lvl50 jewels or they’ll never get enough to buy those when the time comes on top of making them legendary and getting the crypt horse)
I could have bought those (40pve) easily, by the time I finished my 40-50 run I had 420 stones or so (+about 80 something lvl40 leg stones).
(you need 100/ piece and 50 for leg)
lvl50 pve is way harder to gather, you need 800 pieces and 100/piece for legs (not to mention that god nm is way harder at 50-55 than void nm at 40-45).
(lvl60 pve needs 1200 btw and 150/piece for legs)
So yeh, erm, your comparison is no good, simply because almost as soon as you get the lvl40 pve gear it becomes obsolete, no amount of rage will save you wearing the lvl40 pve legs against a comparable player wearing lvl55 pvp, you’re better off selling the lvl40 stones or converting them to lvl50 stones, imho. But you basically said the same thing already, so I don’t know why I’m carrying on about it.

As for single dmg mage without thunderer? Really? Do you expect to ever win a fight with such a build, no aoe, no thunderer and only support skills? Sure you can beat pve fights, but pvp? And what’s more, divine altar is about killing the mobs as fast as possible. I can kill mobs up to lvl8 as good as any other 60+ (haven’t gotten beyond that lvl yet in altar), that’s not the issue, it’s about killing them fast. Faster means getting to a higher level and more rewards and more xp. It’s no good if you can kill an enemy in the altar in 5 minutes if the archers are killing that same enemy in 1 minute… To put it differently, if I was allowed to attack 3 mobs at the same time, I could kill all three of them just as fast as just 1 and survive just as easily… Mages are all about aoe and they’ve taken both that starting advantage away from us and have given single dmg dealers a bonus on top of that (altar). The only mages who can maintain a measure of single dmg are pve mages with thunderer and lvl50 pve gear is near impossible to get, any gear lower than that is irrelevant at this point (60+) in the game and maintaining 2 sets of gear fully socketed as a free player is also near impossible.

As I don’t know you, my only opinion on your reasoning comes from what you say, so if what you’re saying doesn’t make sense to me, my opinion changes in that direction. It’s nothing personal, I certainly don’t dislike you, I do very strongly disagree with your opinions of minimising the effect of purchasable upgradable clothes and the effect it has on player balance and class balance and in this particular case, you opinion on how to build a strong free mage character and how it can perform in single opponent pve battles.

Topic: Wartune / Can anything be done?

I don’t know about R2 support. If you buy kreds for the wrong account and you email kongregate support they’ll happily transfer the kreds to the account you intended it for after the proper checks, I believe it is kreds@kongregate.com, but better double check in the tech support forum, alternatively you can email support@kongregate.com, both contacts are likely to handle your request just fine. If you’ve already spend the kreds however, I doubt there will be much they can do. In which case you’ll have to contact R2 support and they don’t exactly have a spotless record. Can’t advise you in that case because I’m not familiar with their procedures.

Topic: Wartune / Divine Altar Battle Report

Originally posted by alveolate:

@Tetsuo: aoe mage isn’t the ONLY way to play mage.

with the extra rage from clothes, i think PvE set is going to be stronger than ever for mages, and it is now also more possible to spec for single-target DPS mage.

i personally don’t think that DA is prohibitively handicapped for mages. if you are so miffed about these changes, u can either i) quit the game (like many others), or ii) be adaptable and change your play style.

i’m a non-casher and i’m trying to figure out if i’m dead useless without the extra starting rage, but so far it doesn’t seem as huge as the whiners make it out to be. sure, cashers get to start with more spiffy skills (high clothes players get to delph every round in WB), but ultimately i can still beat some of them in duels / GA. just hoping that GB next week won’t be too bad.

…and nice to hear from wellen again. /sarcasm

DA is a good playing field for guildies to interact and strategise in a PvE environment (as opposed to massive PvP of GB). the rewards are also a boon for EXP-starved guys. i’m liking the Shadow Xtals too.

as for Guild Masters… if bearing the responsibility is too tough, swap with one of your trusted AGMs for a week or two. take a break if the game is burdening you. see a shrink. get out there.

You obviously have very little idea of what you’re talking about. Sure, the pve set gives mages access to the only single dmg skill they have (which is otherwise completely useless because mages have the lowest rage gain of any class if they’re not facing large mobs), however, I’m no noob who is just peeping around the block. I have come to lvl62, I am a free player so no vip, so it took time to get from 50 to 60. I have farmed over 300 skeleton keys (of my own, if you count in what the others brought with them it must have been 1000 or so) at the summoner when it was still possible and I still only had about 550 synth items. pve gear cannot be had unless you cripple your xp gain for a very long duration after you’re past the lvl requirement for an mp dungeon, or (before the patch) leeched a whole bunch of keys from other players, or bought so many keys that you could farm the summoner all day long. Neither of which is an option I would take, either because I find certain types of gameplay unfair to others, or I find it not fun to no longer be able to play with the people I normally play with or I don’t want to pay.

But don’t worry, as soon as you reach lvl 60 and you’ll get a look at what a real bg is like and what other server’s strong player’s populations are like and then you’ll find out how worthless you really are (or not). ;)

So, in short, yes healing aoe-mage IS effectively the only way to play a mage for free if you do not sit still between level 50 and level 60 for a few months.

Topic: Wartune / Free Player Devastation

From what I read from your posts it looks like all free players should migrate to your server, since the opposition seems very weak there with few real cashers around. Don’t presume it’s like that on all servers though. ;)

Topic: Wartune / *rage quit* You Win R2

I can’t be certain, but I’m fairly confident R2 people don’t read this forum. KnowingEyes was our very good liaison before, but he retired, so the chance of anyone from R2 finding out anything that is said in this forum is slim. However, you can rest assured that the players on the R2 servers are just as outraged as we are and I would hope they at least check up on their own forums. They’re quitting in masses just as much over there as over here. But it’s in line with R2 gaming support history. Release a game, milk it dry, come with a new relatively comparable game and start the cycle all over. Even cashers that have bought all the gear and clothes are quitting because it’s a never ending cycle of spending that just got made a ton worse. Furthermore, they all see the end coming with all free players having enough of it, so they’re cutting their losses before it completely blows up. No use spending a ton of cash now if the servers will be half empty in a few weeks/months. There was not one good new feature added in this update, sure there were some minor changes for the better (though at least as much for the worse), but the big features are all a bust, why bother to keep on playing if that’s how it’s going to be? (ok, maybe the bg’s for people 45-49 and 55-59 got better, but that’s the only thing i can think off)

Topic: Wartune / Divine Altar Battle Report

Divine altar is just another way to screw over mages. They take away aoe advantage with clothing. They make new events where the only things mages are good at (aoe) is worthless. The message the game is sending is clear. Be a casher archer or quit (or be content to be an eternal 2nd, no rather 3rd or 4th rate player).

Topic: Wartune / *rage quit* You Win R2

Well, people are quitting in large numbers, there are those that haven’t quit yet, but will do so in a short while, there are those that are simply going to turn back their activity to one quarter of what it used to be. So with this update, R2 made a lot of money and lost a lot of players. When word gets out how incredibly pay to win it has become it’ll be a lot harder for them to gain new players. So they made an excellent short term deal and the game will be filled with cashers in a month and if there aren’t enough left it’ll be pretty dead. Well done, made a last cash-in before unbalancing and destroying the game in one fell swoop. New players who are well informed (and thus are bound to be cashers because I cannot image new well-informed players to start playing for free) will all choose archers or knights, because mages are worthless now every class can start off with aoe attacks while they have no serious single dmg attack that can be maintained. So yes, give it a month or two and the game is dead. Congrats! ^^

Topic: Wartune / *rage quit* You Win R2

Can’t compare Chinese server stuff with R2 stuff, everything is dirt cheap there.