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Something seems to be wrong with the information. My vents should cool 18.3B/tick but overheat rapidly from quad dolorium, which produce 8.17. Also, with the new update came serious lag. The framerate drops to less than 5 fps when the game is running, so you can only build/sell stuff easily when the game is paused.
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My upgrades went up a bit on their own with the last update, I now have level 7 for all cell upgrades while nefastium was only 2 and 3 before it.
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Terrible balance at low levels. The lowest level heat vent is completely useless for the cost, especially since the listed venting amount is incorrect by at least a factor of 2.
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Here are 2 samples of my IDLE Builds after new update. 1T with save and cheap setup and 1,7T with double nefastium.
Be carefull with double nefastium afew upgardes more or less will be a melting
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@GiorgosK70. Why go for quad Dolorium when single nef produces more power and less heat. If you replaced all you Dol with nef you could hake out some outlets and make it larger collection
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Loving the game. But it needs more data! It would be very helpful to see stats for things like total heat outlet rate, total vent rate, total heat generation rate, etc. It would also be good to see the base values plus the bonuses for each value broken down by where they're coming from. This would help in sizing the system to get peak efficiency; right now, it's a lot of guess and check because you can't really tell what the full output/capabilities of the system are.
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Sorry, but this new build made many things bad/worse. Especially the venting. It says I can vent ~800M Heat with a Tier-5 vent, and a Tier-4 Single Cell produces ~226M heat. However, when I place a 5-vent next to a 4-single cell, my vent heats up...
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@C: cooling circuits work *much better* than in your example, put a heat pipe next to the fuel, and 3 reflectors. from the heatpipe you can split the heat threeways (i did with more heatpipes, flanking lines of heatpipes with vents). i have two single nefastium cells running that way, about 60 vents connected to each. i need to figure out the correct number of vents to use .... with 11T heat in the reactor i make 1.2T/tick. its a bit tricky to keep the heat, i leave some uncooled lower fuel elements standing around for balancing.
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To get the cooling of vents after todays update you have to divide the displayed amount by 8: displayed cooling / 8 = actual cooling
Knowing this makes planning possible again
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Finally the building of cooling circuits works. Just a inexpensive carefully built first test: http://i.imgur.com/HZQF4SX.jpg ... i will improve it as soon the cell payd itself. It was not really affordable, so i made the cooling a bit overpowered. :D
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my reactor is 3/4 filled with heat outlets and coolant cells and 1/4 filled with fuels and i am on almost 1.4 billion per tick
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After the most recent update, I'd lost the Uranium Replacing upgrade thing, and all the tier'd upgrades started at (7). Resetting solved the problem, so I lost my stuff. But it's such a good game I don't mind :)
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Something's wrong in the new update. I figure either the vents are displaying the wrong amount of heat/tick or the fuel rods are. My vents (19.47B heat/tick) should be able to dissipate enough heat to handle two quad dolorium cells (8.17B heat/tick) per vent, but it's taking 4-5 vents just to handle one. Cheers.
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I had a whole comment written with all sorts of numbers and math about why the vents aren't working, but then I realized it's the upgrades that aren't working. I really wish I could delete old comments! Anyway I hope this gets fixed soon, I'm having a real fun time with this game :)
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Still noticing a discrepancy in the ratings for heat outlets and vents. Even down to the most basic units, the 24 heat per tick vented by the basic vent should easily win over the 16 heat per tick pulled by the outlet, and yet if I fill my reactor with 1000 heat and set a single vent next to a single outlet, the vent builds heat more rapidly than it can remove heat from itself, and explodes. This seems like a big problem, and potentially breaks one's ability to plan for anything.
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Well I had given this game a 4/5 because I enjoyed it. But it just caused my display driver to crash and have to reboot itself. I'm going to switch my rating to 1. That's just terrible from a flash game.
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Why does a heat vent (−948,75M heat/tick) placed in the middle of four non-adjacent power cells (+56,952M heat/tick) overheat? What did I miss on my calculation?
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ok i tried to give this time and give you a fair chance but these constant gaping math issues are enough to make me quit, i liked the game but next time you release a game make sure its balanced beforehand. 1/5
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Small bug: If you place a basic coolant cell next to a fuel cell it will remove all the heat generated that tick instead of the 16k it says in the description. Very useful for lowering heat quickly and cheaply on 4 quad nef cells :)
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1T idle build AFTER the new Patch http://i58.tinypic.com/2dr7u4k.jpg Its a easy Build iam using till the bug with the increased HEAT is fixed. Dont dare to try Nefastiums yet... Too expensive and probably too much heat to do anything with.
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The upgrade prices are in magnitudes, but the effects are super linear, so... like getting a bunch of these things on the screen and idle can't happen anytime soon. Of course... I suppose that would be highly dependent on income, which would be considerably more if the numbers were as displayed.
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I'm sure someone already suggested the idea, but how about letting us select a few tiles we can Copy/Paste(a la RPGMaker map editor)?
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Man, I get that you're trying to improve the game, but it's really hard to get into it when your build is ruined every day. Some of it just seems like changes for the sake of making changes. It's definitely different, but not clear that it's actually better each build. Why not sit down and really spend some time on a new build that will make real substantive improvements and not be full of new bugs and exploits?
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I've bought Improved vents (1), and am using the first level vent, but it is still working like the un-upgraded version. I placed a double-green next to it, and it got hotter, at 4 heat per tick. Um, is this me, or the update not working properly?
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Is it just me or are the heat inlets and outlets now extremely underpowered?
Also, thanks for the constant updates. Like how you spend so much time tweaking and improving the game.
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I'm not sure if the math in the game is adding up correctly, or it's possible I am not doing something correctly, but I have my Ultimate Vents upgraded (thanks to the plating) to remove 1.441M heat per tick, meaning 4 of them should remove 5.764M heat per tick from a single Ultimate Heat Outlet (which outputs 5.12M heat per tick) if they surround it. And yet when I place 4 heat vents surrounding a space, then fill that space with an Ultimate Heat Outlet, the vents immediately explode. I don't understand why, because the numbers appear to add up correctly. I assume I am misunderstanding a game mechanic under the hood.
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nefastium cells seem to be generating a lot more heat than is displayed in this latest version. Two vents at 60B/60B each blow up immediately with just one singe nef cell which is supposed to only generate 51B heat.
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It's been stated before, but this is a rather severe bug and needs more exposure. Heat vents are either not venting the correct amount of heat, or fuel cells are not reporting the amount of heat they generate properly.
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I'm lucky? I can run two nefastium fuels with 4 vents on them with 3 ultimate plates and the rest ultimate capacitors. I don't think this is what the dev was going for. 900B/t. The heat numbers are wrong somewhere, I think it's the vents, but, I'll have to make sure I make a profit with coolants, then switch to 4 coolants on nefastium rods, fill the screen, then grab an upgrade or two. Lasts about 2 minutes between changes for me or about 90 seconds on a time.
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This game randomly freezes up my computer now =\... I don't know the problem but I just want you to know that it is impossible to play for me on my machine, it worked before the most recent update
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So the heat vent effectiveness upgrade is a lie. The text says it will vent more heat, but it still only vents it's base venting value.
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A bit odd that the most powerfull fuelcell is not very usefull. given what you need to do to make it work you are better off using double nefastium than the quads. at least the doubles can be used with 3 maxed fans and enough plating (leaving one side open for neuro reflection) I currently use 45 doubles, 23 NF's to boost them all, 45*3 ultimate heat fans,2 power capacitors an the rest is URP. heat aound 60B this gives me almost 2.5B per tick. dont have any of the 50T upgrades sofar
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Something is wrong with the math. I have vents that reduce 22B heat per tick, and I need 3 of them to handle 1 reactor which produces 8B heat per tick.