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It would be awesome if shift click on an empty spot would fill every empty slot with the component. Building a new design would be much more enjoyable.
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Evidently there is an interesting bug involving heat inlets. A part that can store heat next to any cell and an inlet attached gets the inlets full capacity drawn out. Even a 1 heat uranium can produce millions of heat via this. Its a fairly niche bug and is harmful, yet if done correctly actually does a fantastic job heating up fission builds.
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@The_Froggy: Ok, I'll play by your Protium rules. Here's how I run my 7x Protium Reactor when I'm heading out for a bit. http://imgur.com/jg0OOUQ
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@Cazaan: Do you have enough plating to hold the heat you are forcing into your reactor. You know, the heat that goes in before it can get pumped out... Or, do you still only hold 1k? :-P
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Not getting exotic particles. Says I have 189 earned from my next prestige. 25Qa power produced, 18Qa heat dissipated. If you get your first one at the 1 Trillion mark for the lower of the 2.. bugged. =/
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@Razeth: Actually the prestige upgrades make things wayy cheaper. Unleashed fuel means you get more for the same money. If you are good you can go from beginning to protium in 3 hours. A protium reactor pays itself in less than a minute, later even in less than 10 seconds. This was never possible before. Both can be done even before buying any 5+ k prestige upgrade. When those are bought, the things will become even much more affordable!
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I was just thinking about all of the other idle games with soft resets (or prestiges) And thought about one thing they always have in common with the currency you get for it. Theres always a way to make things more effective, you made it so we have power more effective, heat, effectiveness, but forgot one big thing.
Why not add a exotic particle upgrade that makes everything cheaper? Ramping back up to nefastium/protium can seem to take awhile. But if things were cheaper (Only through exotic particles) it would make it a bit easier to get back up to that stage. Or maybe making it so that everything in the upgrade menu gets cheaper, say 5%-10% per level?
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I would greatly appreciate if there were an offline mode. I have a laptop, and it can overheat if I'm not paying attention, so I don't like to leave it open while I'm gone, but it means no progressing while asleep or at work. :(
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@cine: In such complex games like this are extreme builds with one dominating component not avoidable. The most extreme build is currently having lot of capacitors. A minor change in balance could maybe make a build with lot of vents or platings. But one thing is shure. Its even for experienced developers very very hard to make it impossible to make extreme builds where no part is dominating. The prestige makes it possible to increase output drastically. This one will deliver 81 T in 2 cycles of protium cells and there is still a bit room to get more out of it. http://i.imgur.com/WO1Xqer.jpg After next prestige with 10 k particles this build will have twice as much. But i have to wait some days for it.
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It still feels wrong that the primary limitation is actually collecting/selling the power. All builds I try stumble on number of capacitors - and thats before growing protiums.
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The caps cannot really keep up when you reach 40T-45T builds (build 16 with 600 exotic) and thus impossible to make more than those 40T, even though the build is actually outputting double that.
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@Cael Bug report update^^ i wrote: "Bug Report: There's a problem with passive cooling now. i have enough (outlet + 4vents) combos to cool down 6 Protiums, but the first one already blows it up. no idea why..."
now i have an idea why. i need a plating to place a new protium cell without causing an explosion, but i can remove it when the reactor is running. there seems to be a kind of "initiation heat" going into the reactor after placing a new cell that causes a short overheating.
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Suggestion: Making an upgrade for auto replacing the experimental Protium cell. even if it cost a massive amount of Exotic particles
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Im not shure about, but there seems to be sudden explosions when the cooling is done with outlets and the maximum heat of reactor is lower than the sum of heat per tick of cells. It seems to occur after clicking pause to let the reactor run. Its nothing worse but i guess others are also curious about the sudden explosions as i was.
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Bug Report:
There's a problem with passive cooling now. i have enough (outlet + 4vents) combos to cool down 6 Protiums, but the first one already blows it up. no idea why...
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Is prestige still based on the *lower* of heat and money in equal amounts? I'm running 43 Dual nefastium now. Generates a measly $29.5T, but, 17.8T heat. (With upgrades, I could get $55T idle, but only heat matters.)
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Stop complaining about the new update, nothing changed in the stuff balance, my reactor has the same values os if your reactor exploded is YOUR fault.
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Is something going to be done for the fact that "uncontrolled heat" is actually detrimental to buy because it slows your protium growth?
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Ah, an interesting idea for the double and quad protium cells just occurred to me. You could have them last twice and four times as long, respectively, but give twice and four times as much of a protium bonus, respectively.
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With lates update i can run 5 protium cells (almost 6 without 2.5 qi and 10qi upgrades) stable only thing is manually replacing them can be tiring. And again an achievement system can be nice with benefits of course.
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Update just makes it look epic, now I can waste time or go idle in style!
PS, How do you get exotic particles? I did prestige (free one) and got none on next playthrough, ?
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The back key for upgrades and prestige would be better if put closer to the actual upgrade and prestige buttons. Going all the way to the bottom is annoying. I know, it seems petty, but you'd be surprised how much a difference it makes.
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Sorry to say it but I actually don't like the UI update, I thought the game had a unique style to it the way it was. Just my two cents I still really enjoy the game.
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to dev & @gotan - thanks for replies/comments, here's a suggestion for offline calculations to be clarified : the game summarizes influx & efflux of heat through reactor based on build. Though this is a process that has dynamic interplay when viewed at the component level, taking the big picture perspective would help simplify the numbers into static properties for use in offline mode calculations. The crux is to handle both coolants and vents, which are the only components to remove heat from the system in this game. They either last for the entire time between logins, or they don't. Interplay of inlets/outlets are immaterial (superfluous components, but i understand why they're used). Hope this helps. @nicolea - your twitchy clicking finger(s)/abilities >>>> mine. i'll just let mine idle.
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@ellysius I can assure you, at the rate i'm clicking the manual heat venting button, it's 100% stable. I ran it for hours today! The only issue is that i can't collect the money faster than i'm earning it >:D
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@elly: and how do you "calculate to make sure reactor doesn't blow"? For some reactors the only way is to simulate the whole time, and that might take too long.
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@TylerL45: Look here to understand what The_Froggy talked about: http://i.imgur.com/0LoUs0F.jpg You may notice, that the TWO cells are already giving 71 Trillion per tick and if the froggy playd as long as i he will have the same result. If i continue this for another day, one cell will be enough for same result. Nefastium will never be as efficient and allways be limited to a way lower value while the power of protium increases continously.
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One problem i found you can reset the game really easy on accident it would be nice if a box in the middle would show up and be like are you sure you will lose everything and gain ''x'' points for the reset just my idea
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@nicolea - *YAWN*, unstable build
@gotan - offline mode easy, 1. calculate to make sure reactor doesn't blow 2. if so, use time needed to blowup to calculate energy gen, otherwise calculate energy based on last login, that simple (+anti-hack)
The problem is calculating whether or not the reactor is going to blow. It isn't simple. You can't just see the rate at which the reactor gains/loses heat, because that changes over time based on various states.
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Is there some way to enable offline progress? I don't really like keeping the window open at all times just to generate power.
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@The_Froggy: Let's get this straight... You said "if you look, i'm earning multiple times more money than any of the "safe" setups." I don't see the words "for protium only reactors" anywhere in that statement. You then argued with "That nofastium build will always be limited to that 26T", which is also bullshit because that same reactor is now at 29.878T per tick. Over 5T/tick more than your reactor. http://imgur.com/nwrcAru
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I think I consider it a misstake to invest EP in unleashed fuel cells.
To burn 100 protium cells will have the same effect as the upgrade without the drawback. But I might not get there as fast with the upgrade because of cooling issues.