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ekulnod

Jan. 13, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) Is there any perfectly legal way 2 get energy other the waiting? Plz answer dev.

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Developer response from delosford

Nope. This is intentionally done so that more active players effectively play a more complex game than casual players.

epicguydan123

Jan. 13, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) time to get more of dat heroin, mmmmm delicious XD

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Developer response from delosford

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWAsI3U2EaE

moxieman

Jan. 13, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) Fantastic game! Sharp, self-aware and hilarious. It's just enough to be a immersive good time, but not so much that it becomes self-important and preachy. (I can't find the adjective for that statement.) One thing though, while I get the feeling the world page was given a lot of thought and care, it seems as if the game isn't affected by it enough. It doesn't matter to the player that the economy is sunk and so on. It would be really impressive if the store and the black market experienced inflation in proportion to the sinking economy and so on. All the same, my favorite game on Kong!

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Developer response from delosford

Thanks for the feedback and support! The CPI is not currently modeled, which would be more what you're talking about. Historically, I think the CPI also has a loose or potentially inverse relationship with the price of illicit drugs. However, I do have plans to implement bills that will alter the cost of drugs and perhaps also items (drug law bills and sales tax or something). These bills will ALSO modify costs of other games connected to Clout, such as The Lobby and Campaign Trail (both currently only in the planning stages, but The Lobby should be open in some form within a month at most).

ranthedark

Jan. 12, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5292441344/h31FA39A8/ this game in a nut shell.

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Developer response from delosford

Seems like a pretty good summation. I have a thing for settings without any "good guys" (See also: Warhammer 40k)

chaos_87

Jan. 12, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) Sounds good, I think rehab stints will be pretty popular soon.

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Developer response from delosford

It may be a bit before I implement these. Got a couple more pressing features first that'll take a bit.

Daddysback

Jan. 12, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) Passed out from too much debate. DAMN YOU X20 BUTTON, WHY MUST YOU TAUNT ME.

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Developer response from delosford

I'm sure your constituents respect your dedication!

Darkorca25

Jan. 12, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) My bad, i thought eople eant coca cola when they said coke. LOL

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Darkorca25

Jan. 12, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) I have some questions, i would like to ask you delos.. First, can you give some tips on how to make lots of clout? Do you get more clout than the people who favour YOUR bill that you created passes? Finnally, where can you buy coke? If you buy coke is it a scandal? is it a major scandal? And finally what is the average amount of % taken off your chance of re-election if you get caaught in a coke scandal(if coke isnt a scandal then ignore this question)?

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Developer response from delosford

The best way to gain clout with the energy you have available is to get other people to pass your bill after playing some abilities on it, and use your energy to mostly help allied bills or get enemy bills to fail. Getting bills to fail gives more clout than helping them pass, but it's also much harder as you're always guaranteed to have people working against you pretty hard.

chaos_87

Jan. 12, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) I wasn't thinking instant either, that'd be ridiculous. Maybe just something to make the withdrawals happen right away by going into rehab instead of having to wait for those to start and then waiting for the addiction to go away.

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Developer response from delosford

Well, I'll try to think of something along those lines to implement. It doesn't seem like a bad idea.

chaos_87

Jan. 12, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) any idea for some sort of rehab for drug addiction in the future?

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Developer response from delosford

You can clear addictions by waiting for a few days after not using the drug or related drugs at all. If you mean a system that speeds it up somehow... maybe, but I don't want to do anything instant. I think one of the major problems with the portrayal of drugs as a gameplay mechanic is the instant healing of addictions to remove withdrawal penalties.

epicguydan123

Jan. 12, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) I PASSED OUT FROM DRUGS D: gotta wait a day untill i wake up damnit

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Developer response from delosford

Good ol' heroin. Well, that's how I prefer to pass out, anyway. Clearly that drinking scandal was just slander.

Ihascookies

Jan. 12, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) Lol, Grey Dye. - Only one, not fifty.

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Developer response from delosford

Thanks for the feedback and support!

Bigboy3162

Jan. 12, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) My favorite thing about this game is that the dev kicks ass in the comment flame wars

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Developer response from delosford

lol... thanks for the feedback and support!

ranthedark

Jan. 11, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) love how we are being told to assainate the presadent

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Developer response from delosford

Make sure to do some meth and take a bribe first!

deleteduser

Jan. 11, 2013

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Developer response from delosford

I'd say it's extremely obscure in America, at the very least. It has 5 critic reviews on metacritic, 3 of which are from America. I'm also quite aware Civilization isn't an MMO... but there are many MMO-like games that follow Civ's general formula and would also be much more politically-themed than wakfu.

deleteduser

Jan. 11, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) By political theme, it is a game built 100% around politics, not having politics a small side feature. Many games have a "government", but that doesn't make them politically themed. Most players will not experience the political side of Wakfu, nor will those who do experience the political side have a political experience, they will have an experience similar to a leader in a large gaming community. If you played this game you would see politics, ERepublik has a well built political system, but even in that game many players do not truly experience the politics.

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Developer response from delosford

The funniest part to me is that if we were to use his super loose criteria for "politically-themed", he wouldn't need to dig up some obscure game. Civilization is more politically-themed than Wakfu and I believe slightly more famous as well.

TigerLova

Jan. 11, 2013

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Developer response from delosford

Um... this game isn't in flash. You haven't actually played this game, have you? Give it a try. You might learn the definition of politically-themed. And what in the world do you mean by "trust" in that context? What am I asking you to trust me about? 0_o

henry700

Jan. 11, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) TigerLova needs to get a life

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Developer response from delosford

Who needs life when one has Wakfu? Is question for ages. Free your mind and experience the glory of the spirit of Wakfu.

TigerLova

Jan. 11, 2013

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Developer response from delosford

Well that was an incoherent mess. Again, you are trying to convince people that a tactical RPG is a politically-themed game, despite the fact that it has no political system whatsoever. Having an elected dictator that has powers isn't really a new concept in online games, and it also doesn't make a game politically-themed. Sorry.

Geenf11

Jan. 10, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) This game is like herding cats while fighting over the controls of a plane in a downward midair spiral. This can only end in a glorious trainwreck.

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Developer response from delosford

An apropos description.

chris1234618

Jan. 10, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) Indeed, and this game is the perfect pioneer for the genre!

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Developer response from delosford

Thanks for the support!

kboy101

Jan. 10, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) way to fight naysayers DELO.

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Developer response from delosford

Thanks for the support!

chris1234618

Jan. 10, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) The only political games other than this that I can think of would be Democracy 1 and 2 by Positech Games. You play as the Prime Minister or President and get to control a government in order to run a country.

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Developer response from delosford

Thanks for the info! It does appear that this is in fact a politically-themed game. I didn't know any existed except this one, though I do get to keep the first politically-themed MMORPG title i suppose.

TigerLova

Jan. 10, 2013

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Developer response from delosford

Ah, so basic guild-based functions evident in nearly every MMORPG, including Ultima Online? Wow, you're really on a roll. Here's a screenshot of the website for Wakfu that cover the features of the game. The political system isn't even mentioned: http://i.imgur.com/Cksoo.jpg

TigerLova

Jan. 10, 2013

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Developer response from delosford

Oh, so it has a criminal/murderer system, just like Ultima Online, widely regarded as the first true MMORPG? And Ultima Online isn't politically-themed, either? And a criminal justice system isn't the same as a political system? The point is this game's own website doesn't even MENTION the political system unless you dig into a "political news" section that's incredibly sparse and indicates little to no in-game function for the system. That is not "politically-themed". In Clout, you play a POLITICIAN who PASSES BILLS in CONGRESS. In Wakfu, you play AN ADVENTURER who KILLS MONSTERS on a TACTICAL GRID. Your claims are absurd. Go play wakfu if you love it so much and stop wasting my time.

TigerLova

Jan. 10, 2013

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Developer response from delosford

Well, my grandma is older than Wakfu... so there! (Hint: being older doesn't really matter since Wakfu is not a politically-themed game, but is a grid-based fantasy tactical RPG, just as my grandmother is an elderly woman and is thus quite dissimilar from Wakfu.)

TigerLova

Jan. 10, 2013

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Developer response from delosford

Actually I've never heard of Wakfu, so clearly you know it better. What you don't seem to know is the definition of "Politically-Themed". Wakfu is a tactical RPG that uses turn-based 2D grid combat. Your link also just dumps me to the wakfu main page... which again, says absolutely nothing about politics. After some digging, it appears that nations elect some governor that has essentially no in-game function. There are many MMORPGs that showcase a more extensive political system than Wakfu, actually, and they still aren't anywhere near politically-themed. Shadowbane, for instance. Hell, you could even levy taxes in towns in UO once they added the faction expansion for Felucca, which seems more impactful than anything political in Wakfu.

ArtixBot

Jan. 10, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) Two suggestions: one, make dyes cost cash (I don't see why anyone would spend Kreds to have a new color for their item), and two, maybe allow us to buy one additional offshore account for about $100,000? Just a suggestion. :D

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Developer response from delosford

Dyes have made more money for the game than sales of cash and clout combined, actually. I'm also not really sure what you mean by an additional offshore account. There is no limit to the amount of cash you can deposit.

TigerLova

Jan. 10, 2013

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Developer response from delosford

"WAKFU is a French global cross-media brand by Ankama Games revolving around an online tactical turn-based MMORPG.[3] In addition to the online game, elements consist of an Xbox Live Arcade Game (Islands of WAKFU), an animated television series (WAKFU), comics/manga, a trading card game, action figures, and more." The word politics is not mentioned once. looks like my facts are pretty straight.

Noly

Jan. 10, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) I got the same problem, it looks like some data was lost... What I did in a certain time was completely lost.

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Developer response from delosford

There seems to have been some kind of major server error unrelated to the game. I'm looking into it now. Unfortunately it's unlikely I'll be able to recover anything significant from that day as I do not have the server backing up every hour or something. But frankly I'm starting to wonder if I should with all the issues I've been having lately.

miiia01

Jan. 10, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) what on earth happened with the in-game time?one minute i have received 1250 clout for passing a bill, the next minute i'm a bit low on clout and the bill is only halfway through.did it rewind or something?

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Developer response from delosford

I believe there was some kind of massive server error. I can't connect to the DB as it's telling me the SSL cert is faulty. Considering the game itself is still running, I don't think this is actually related to the game. I'll be in contact with my hosting company... and it's pretty likely this is the last straw with them. They've randomly downed the game before without notifying me and I'm not too happy about the repeated fuckups.

Diggey

Jan. 10, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) Y U NO ALLOW ME TO ASSAULT NEWBIES *sob* I am really glad that there is a mechanic against that,it's not like it isn't implementet in other games,but I personally really like that.

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Developer response from delosford

Thanks for the feedback and support! Ganking and griefing are not legitimate gameplay options and I don't know why other games allow them when they're very easy to prevent in a programmatic way.

Calvingrnwld

Jan. 10, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) I cant play the game because the character traits dont equal 0.. please fix this :)

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Developer response from delosford

Character traits can equal out to zero points just fine in many different combinations. You cannot choose EVERY trait, which is not a problem or a bug. That's what the reset traits button is for.

ArtixBot

Jan. 09, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) OK, last comment about slamming this game because of lack of features/my stupidity. XD. So... Will you obtain the campaign contribution bonus (if the bill passes) one day after the bill passes? I accepted a "Relax Immigration Restrictions", got the bill passed, and didn't obtain the cash. Otherwise, an interesting game that I don't think I'll get bored of for a whle.

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Developer response from delosford

Thanks for the feedback and support! Passing contributions pay out at the end of the day. Says so in a couple places, including the top of the bill list. But everyone misses it and asks this question anyway.

sandtime

Jan. 08, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) Also is thier an award for killng a VIP?

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Developer response from delosford

Just the removal of that NPC from the game. The point is strategic use to remove figures that impede your party, and facilitate installation of NPCs more aligned with your cause in positions of power. Currently VIPs don't affect the game, but this will be changing very soon. I just wanted to make sure you could combat them first via the assassinations.

sandtime

Jan. 08, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) what does think tank payoff do?

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Developer response from delosford

It's kind of a long explanation. Choosing to run a mission will take you to a screen that tells you more about it and allows you to cancel out. I'd recommend not using the new missions for a couple days while I test them more. They're technically accessible, but not truly released as a feature yet.

Sibrien

Jan. 08, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) I just want to say I love the subteruge info screen. "There have been a total of 7131 undiscovered scandalous acts committed by active politicians. You were responsible for X of those. You have a 100% chance of reelection."

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Developer response from delosford

Thanks for the feedback and support!

ArtixBot

Jan. 08, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) So, apparently when I click on my name in the Status Tab, I do not know my Traits, Cash, Stress, Support, and stats? Seems like I need to investigate myself.

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Developer response from delosford

yeeeeah... I've been meaning to change that for a while. I need to make the csp indicator a bit more vague first on the look screen.

Jabare

Jan. 08, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) which suit is better, Italian pinstripe, or custom designer?

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Developer response from delosford

No piece of equipment at a similar cost and the same tier/slot is strictly better than any other. This is by design. In fact, I believe those two items are identical/near identical in stats and are only different to allow for a male/female style of dress.

Ahwen

Jan. 07, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) is there anywhere where i can look at my own constituent support? if not please put one in.

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Developer response from delosford

You can't see your own exact constituent support, but the status screen and subterfuge screen give you indicators that should be more than enough to get a good idea of your level of constituent support. It's intentional that you don't see the number.

Enfold

Jan. 07, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) Is there a negative impact from hiring AN** escort?

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Enfold

Jan. 07, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) Is there a negative impact from hiring and escort?

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Developer response from delosford

Every scandalous action you take is logged by the game and can later be uncovered by player-run investigations. Other than that, there is no drawback aside from the monetary cost.

flaris

Jan. 07, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) What are the kill chance for Vip killings

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Developer response from delosford

VIP assassinations have no special conditions like a normal assassination, as they target an NPC. Success = death of the target.

ArtixBot

Jan. 07, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) You should include information that purchasing a cigar/liquor will cause a scandal. I bought one liquor, expecting for it to not cause a scandal, but was not told that it would cause the scandal. NOOOO MY PERFECT RECORD. But seriously, I think you should include a warning next to the cigar and liquor in the store.

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Developer response from delosford

The scandals from these items are incredibly minor compared to other scandals in the game, and the purpose is more to use them to drown out worse scandals than to actually cause problems for characters that incur them.

Zeron

Jan. 06, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) If you have issues not being able to continuously play games that use an energy based system grab like 4 or 5 of them that you like and keep cycling through them. It is an old system so there are tons of them out there and many of them will more then likely be quite fun for you.

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Developer response from delosford

What? Games can't be fun unless they're less than 2 hours long and you never have to come back and play them again. Everyone knows that! LordBucket hath shown us the light!

evilgenius97

Jan. 06, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) I keep passing out on the floor! Its awesome! and probably leaves an impression

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Developer response from delosford

Thanks for the feedback and support! I'm sure your constituents respect your dedication.

TommCaudillo

Jan. 06, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) It's a fun game. But I do have a couple of gripes: 1. If there's a way to send private messages, I haven't found it. Is this in the game? Because, if we're going to have a "politics MMO", we NEED the means to plot against one another on a small scale. The Party and Team posts are nice, but we really need some way to communicate secretly. 2. It doesn't seem like there's enough punishment for letting a bill opposed to you and your party through. Currently, people would rather pass their own tax increase instead of voting against a tax cut; they'd get the clout for themselves and lose nothing by opposing the other bill. I don't know how big it should be, but no libertarian should be allowed to let a tax increase go by, and no communist can do the same for a tax cut, if you get my drift.

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Developer response from delosford

Thanks for the feedback! I never added a specific way to private message in-game due to the fact that it always runs within either Kongregate or Facebook, both of which have their own messaging functionality. However, the biggest drawback of this is that now that the game is multiplatform... Kongregate/Facebook users have little to no way to coordinate interactions. As a result, I will be adding a way to make people your associate in game so you can crony them. Making someone your associate will require approval, and can be revoked. You will only be able to privately contact your associates. This should help significantly reduce unwanted tell spam. I will be implementing this most likely after I finish the new missions and make a tweak to safe deposit boxes.

miscrits

Jan. 06, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) you know.you could put a tiemr to see how much time till energy..

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Developer response from delosford

I probably will add one of these eventually. Originally I didn't include one because I was trying to avoid javascript entirely. This eventually became impossible, and then pointless once ported to Kong. Now it's simply a low priority. However, I have been getting to more and more low priority things lately as I run out of planned features to add. Really I only have a couple more to go before I consider the game out of Beta and start working on The Lobby.

sandtime

Jan. 06, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) for* passing* to* bill*

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sandtime

Jan. 06, 2013

Under rating threshold (show) A Special Interest Group wants you to introduce a "Decrease Family-Related Tax Breaks" bill to congress. You will receive $2500 for this, and another $10000 if the bill passes. Accepting will cost 2500 Clout. The above statement is an example:I did this for a fund solvent green research and recevied 10,500$ to make the bill, then i got the bill passed about 5 days later. However didnt get 21,000$ gorpasing the bil. Does it take a day or so t get that money?

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Developer response from delosford

Yeah, bill passing contributions pay out at end of day when the bill actually gets applied to the nation. It says this in a couple places, but a lot of people seem to miss it. You can find more than a couple comments to this effect in the comments history already.

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