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The hydra isn't that hard to beat, except when your equipment starts to get worn out from using on too many levels without replacement. But put a gorgon and a minotaur together in a pandora's box, or worse (if it can be imagined), two minotaurs, and it's really hard to beat. I have only once beat a pandora's box with a gorgon and a minotaur together, but if you have a conjuror, you can fill up the back row with characters who can fight either back or front, and then if they are all fast enough to "spell" before the enemies, the conjuror can add a summoned creature to the back. That makes five, and when the minotaur uses labyrinth, you still have some maneuvering room. But I don't think I've ever beaten two minotaurs.
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One cool way to really trounce special enemies like the legendary monsters, the corruptor, the dreadfather, and to give yourself a better chance to beat pandora's box is to save up the three special potions, the elixir of speed, the snake's blood potion, and the stun resist/damage resist potion and take give as many as you have to the characters who need them most, or one of each to each character if you have them, and then go into battle all fired up. It's worth having to fight harder without the special potions on simpler battles just to see what you can do in a big battle!
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Garin, could you fix the Pandora's box? I mean, I've beaten like four, and have only gotten one purple item for each one.
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My favorite team is a warrior, a ranger, a mage, and a rogue. If you capitalize on each one's strengths, they really work well together.
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Hey, manahimik, I finally got the Mundane Becomes Extraordinary to work, re: your advice. I made sure to at least one of both gray and white items, and it chose to purple the white item. Now I know what's what. Kuraenoken, you're right: since the last time I started a game (I played the previous one to level 101), it's gotten harder to get the last blue stone fragment to summon the dreadfather. But that's not the only thing that's gotten harder since then. The last long game I started, one reason I was able to go on so long was because I got 4 Rings of Boundless Energy, the ones that restore 100% of power and health after a battle. This has gotten harder. Now it seems that the battles with legendary creature turn up Serpentine Bands more often, which are not nearly as good. I do wonder if garin does from time to time make things more challenging, or if we're just responding to totally random events.
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well i just prefer end on my warrior because my other classes are set up to do damage to the back row: he isnt. I usually just shield wall twice in a row on my warrior and by that time, they are usually dead.
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why do I always need to start the game all over again if i'm playing via kongregate and my game is being saved automatically? everytime I log to continue the game, I need to start it from the start! that`s lame!
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I prefer putting str on my warrior than end. For me, it's better to kill enemies faster than last longer. It's especially better with the +dmg buffs and lifesteal. If you feel your cleric is falling short on his heals, grab a censer of your level to boost your healing output by a lot. Sometimes you can get lucky enough to get a unique censer that heals 4x the censer of your level.
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I have a slight, ever so slight problem with how the game mechanics work. I have a warrior and a cleric. I stack all my stat points in endurance on my warrior and all my points in intellegence on my cleric. but my heal falls behind my warriors health. right now, my cleric has intellegence stacked all the way, but his normal heal spell only heals him half way. That kind of bugs me seeing as i need my warrior to take a beating.
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Maaaan.... You really don't comprehend just how powerful those orc warlords are until you get to the alliance floor. I ended up fighting an orc warlord and a dragon. And every time that dragon died the orc was sure to revive... yeah that didnt rhyme, but you get the point.
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So, Kuraenoken, when you were denied the last blue stone fragment, what level did you end with before you got it? 338% of what? I actually prefer that dreadfather stuff to the contaminator or whatever he's called in the other dungeon, and I've never gotten past the tenth or eleventh level without being allowed the last blue stone. But it doesn't give it automatically on the first ten levels, it sometimes skips one, in my experience. If you've had to wait much longer, then you're right, it is a bug. But the best Monsters' Den games, probably the latest avatar of the game, are when you go in through the Kongregate link. If you go in through a link called monstrum by itself, or maybe biclops, I mean, the games play differently in several respects. Maybe that's what happened?
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Tip: Keep passing your turn at the end of a fight vs. 1 enemy while you restore health and mana. The damage from one enemy can almost be ignored and it helps you save your potions
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Thanks, manahimik, again, for further light on Mundane Becomes Extraordinary. Now I know that I'm correctly saving that stupid gray glove (for my mage) so that she can get a new purple glove, even if it's taking a century for it to happen. About the "Temporary Becomes Permanent" and "A Gift of Magic," though, I've found that sometimes it will go ahead and put it on my inventory when my inventory is full, and sometimes not, so I've taken the precaution you mention of clearing space for it when I see that it's there and waiting to put it in the inventory until I know i have space. Have you ever noticed, also, that if you enter Monsters' Den through the plain Monstrum link (which I did by accident a few times before I decided to stick strictly to the Kongregate link) that in the emporium it sells you all three potions at once when you buy health or power potions, while only charging you the one price? But then, it uses them up in an odd way sometimes, too. Anyway, thanks.
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"Mundane Becomes Extraordinary" shrine makes a random non-colored item into a unique item. I'm not sure if it works with white or only gray. If you don't have a normal item, nothing will change so be careful. I don't know the exact mechanic but there was one time where I trashed all grey items except one when I encountered MBE shrine but when I activated it, nothing happened. Since then I get as much normal items before using the MBE shrine. The ones where you receive perm stat enhancing potions is a different shrine. I haven't encountered it for a while but the name goes something like "something something becomes permanent" or something like that. It gives you 2 potions that enhances str and end if I remember right, just make sure you have enough inv space.
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Woah! HELPFUL TIP COMING UP! I did not notice this for a while, but ranger has a move called hunters prowess. it does increased damage and a chance to kill. it does 200% damage to deep creatures. HOWEVER. I just found out.... IT WORKS ON LEGENDARY CREATURES! it cost 30 power and double damage on a legendary is REALLY HELPFUL.
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You know how you get orange items when you beat the dreadfather and the corrupter? you should be able to fight similar demons in the legendary lure! they have good items. that would be awesome in my opinion.
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best way to kill: get a barbarian, ranger, priest, and something else. upgrade the creature lore of ranger, get anoint on priest, and get pulverize on barbarian, and brutality. final hit you can do is your base damage for barbarian times 160% if you use chargex175% from anointx1505 from brutalityx150% from reckless fury plus if you creature lore and pulverize the enemy has 60% damage boost for armor. i did 50 thousand on the minotaur at lvl 57
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For the love of god could you an add some form of "Are you sure?" pop up when clicking return from the inventory... accidentally clicked 3 times in a row just now before I was done buying/selling... infuriating when your in a new game before you can afford the preferred customer badge.
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3 gorgons 3 minotaurs on pandora. i go through massive fight and in the end i am victorious! got too nimble gloves and a few green items. pandora fun for me, till i get rewards
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Thanks, manahimik, for the clarification re: Mundane Becomes Extraordinary. But what happens to your inventory when you do get one? Do you get an exta potion or etc., or is it like someone about a year or two ago said, and you get a purple glove, for example, in place of a white or gray glove?
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"Mundane Become Extraordinary" shrines appear randomly, like special encounters, legendary encounters and permanent potion thingy shrines. Sometimes I can play thru a campaign (40~ ish levels before I get bored) without getting one sometimes I get more than 2 in a single playthrough.
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Does anybody know just how to make "Mundane Become Extraordinary" work? As I said in my last note about it, I've deliberately left both gray and white items in my inventory for many turns of the game in order to cause it to appear and turn one of them purple (which is what I recall someone saying happened for them), but then it just doesn't appear. I think I've done somewhere between 20-30 rounds now waiting for it to appear, and it hasn't. If you've got any idea, please respond. Maybe I have it wrong?
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I think the point of the pandoras box is to challenge those whose team is nigh on unstoppable. Although it would be nice to be rewarded for ones efforts... I think you should get a purple for every leader and a legendary for every legendary creature in the fight. That would make it very worthwhile.
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I'd highly suggest making the Pandora's Box loot actually worth the time and money to even try. As it is, there's no reason to bother as what you get pales in comparison to something like the Legendary Lure. Save that, excellent game.
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best way to own those bosses ( pandora, legend, purple drop, one of those). get a mage with luminescent staff of the enlightened magus, thiefs gloves, robe of affliction, and shroud of darkness. all these are from bosses (pandora purple drop or legend). depending on the level of the items, you get between 75-110 blinding. use electrical storm and they cant touch you. also, if you having trouble making money, save up, buy the emporium preferred customer, and every level rite before you descend go and sell all unecesary items. dont buy all the stuff they have for sell unless you see good purple item, just buy legend lures (and when you hardcore) pandora.
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I have assembeled my Dream team
Ezio (from Assassians Creed) the rouge
Dumbledore (from harry potter) the mage
Gimli (from lord of the rings) the Barbarian
Robin hood (from... Robin hood) the ranger
:D
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Guessing nobody else has had the problem of getting the most useless items possible out of the pandoras box based on the negative rating on my comment :)
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Completes Den of Endless Evil on Extreme - Hardcore - Tactical - Attrition (338%) for the first time ever. Pats self on back. Blimey. Congratulations, Dilbert (warrior), Alice (warrior), Asok (cleric) and Wally (ranger)!
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My preferred method for Tellunos from several years ago was War/Cleric/Conj/Ranger, take all the group buffs since they have infinite duration as survival is "one big fight." Then stack up armor. I was able to last past wave 130; I don't know how high I could go because at this point I got bored and quit. When you're fighting level 20+ monsters with your level 10 team, things take a very long time to die.
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all you have to do for fall of tellunos survival: 3 clerics and 1 warrior, boost warriors damage and all of the clerics health, warrior kills clerics heal.
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Whenever you have full inventory, you can just delete the cheap ones. There's a filter in your inventory that rearranges your inventory according to their value. I usually discard my starting items then wait til lvl 3-4 then start selling when I get full inventory. By this time I will usually have blue and green items to sell (and a few purple that I can't use) so when I sell it, I can can afford a purple item or the emporium badge or a legendary lure. Exploring every map til 100% can really make the later levels a lot easier.
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Survival mode was really hard until I realised that all the 'lasts until the end of combat' buffs would last for the entire mode. Plus one on the Warrior, Ranger, Cleric, Conjurer combo - got to level 50 and then seemed unable to die, so set myself the new rule that I wasn't allowed to use any special abilities.
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Uhm an all cleric team is hard to kill, yes... but their killing power is kinda low too unless your enemies are undead. Not to mention you will have a harder time finding decent equipment for all your clerics since Clerics can only equip mace. You should just get a conjurer+cleric+ranger deal + damage dealer if you want a defensive team. The 20% defense buff from conjurer makes your other teammates almost as tanky as clerics in heavy armor and the ranger can heal too and provide a +hp regen buff...
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Easy survival mode win: All Clerics. Keep two in the front row and two in the back. Give them all Revive. Front Row give them Fervor, Shield of Faith (or Holy Light or Anoint if you want), load them up with as much armor and HP Regen as possible and pour their points into STR and END. Back row all points into INT and as much POW Regen equipment as you can get on them (Use Censers on them as well for added healing). Give one Purify and Heal All, and the other Holy Light/Anoint and Heal All. Throw the rest of the skill points in Benediction (Gets rid of nasty effects like -50% DMG/Blind/No Power Regen). Set them up so the middle squares are empty. Now you have a really hard to kill team that can all support each other.