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This new update is a swift kick in the nuts. Making so much less money, getting less AIs. This game went from being slightly winnable to nope. 6.016 quadrillion AIs btw. Still not good enough evidently.
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I like that you rescaled things to make the other businesses more useful. However, I still can't really strategize much. We need to be able to see dollars per second. Without that, I can't really tell how much the pizza place is doing versus the donut shop. Is it worth prioritizing more newspapers over more oil rigs? I can't tell because I don't know how much the next newspaper achievement is going to help me.
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How about a "buy max" option in the future for the businesses? That would be a ton of less clicking for all of us with constant resets many of us do daily
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Maybe, at the bottom of the screen, you could have our total cash, written in true numbers. The font would never change size, and you would display up to 100 digits. This way I can see "1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000" instead of "1 tredecillion". Also, you could have only the first few digits actually change, and the other digits could simply be blurs, as they'd be changing so fast.
This isn't meant to replace the word form at the top, but to simply add a little fun at the bottom :)
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That nerf totally killed my spirit playing this game. I thought how bad could it be & reseted while gaining 300 trillion AI. Totals gains went down 8x. I think it's time to call it quits because I'm basically back to where I started. Truly makes me sad. Thanks for this amazing game, though. :)
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While i do agree with the nerfing of the lemonade stands because they were so cheap to make and gave the most money i think the balancing still needs to be tweaked a little but good job Dev.
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Yes, it is now not worth resetting if you don't mind abusing the game mechanics. You'd need to get about 100 times your current AIs for it to be worth resetting.
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Um, so version numbers?? In the game *every* mod, including minor mods, and in the notes? So I can figure out which moving target I'm chasing? :-/
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yes, last update is a monstrous nerf to the fun factor. idle games are about progress, there isn't really anything else. but, no progress no fun.
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Sooo with this new update if we reset the game we willl win less profit/angels per second? ;/
thats sad.... I will have to keep this save for a longggg time till I find its profitable again to reset
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Actually the nerf is over 99% for me. The max it will be if you buy enough newspaperstands is a 99.13% nerf. So you'd be getting <1% from them compared to before.
According to my spreadsheet, the change was not that dramatic. HOWEVER - I'm in the business of making stuff fu, and I think I'm going to fix this, but iin a way that preserves my new ratio while upping the speed. Stand by!
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This game is seriously addictive! The developers are releasing updates frequently, so you have plenty of new things during your quest to maximum Newspaper Deliveries
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my internet screen keeps freezing up when i goto the achievements but the game continues to go other than this bug the game is great
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Not trying to poop on you or anything, by the way, still a nice game, just the abrupt drop in speed was a bit of a... surprise?
Oh not at all! Actuallly, I think I want to fix this. I think what I'm going to do is add another All Profits multiplier that restores the speed of the pre-nerf without messing up the new ratio I implemented. Make no mistake - I love feedback!
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If you don't reset you can keep the higher multiplier from before the nerf it seems.
It was needed, I just wish the update news told the truth. It seems to be a 90%+ nerf which is a fair bit more than 'a little'.
The other income hasn't been changed to make up for it either. At least I got a few quadrillion AIs out of it before the nerf I suppose.
I could have not reset for ages and kept the multiplier but that'd be a bit naff tbh.
Well, here's the way it worked out. We took the overall rate of profits from the Lemonade Stands, and averaged it out more across the other investments. Lemons are still the most powerful investment (or arguably so, depending on if you're working your way through the 700s, 800s, or 900s), but the final rates of profit wind up being extremely close to the pre-nerf. But if you're in the 700s (or 600s) you'll feel the loss more than if you're in the 800s or 900s. Sorry for the disappointment!
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Thanks for the great game. I'd like to add some useability-suggestions:
- Maybe more options for multi buy (25, 50 and 100). Even with 10x it takes a little time to buy all the stuff when you restart with a large amount of angel investors
- A small top bar in the upgrades menu which you can use to browse between the different tiers of upgrades. With the current amount of (awesome) upgrades it is very tedious to scroll through the full list. A "buy all" button for each tier (and for the managers) would also be nice.
- Start idle businesses as soon as a manager is bought.
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I'm not seeing a boost to my oil at all, I was making 400non every 8 sec with 800 before the latest release, and I still am. Everything feels way slower, especially since now I have no chance in hell of reaching those 11x upgrades any time soon as going from 550->560 newspapers costs undecillions and i'm barely earning an undecillion every couple of hours.
I was having fun just pumping for resets trying to obtain 900x of everything, now it feels extremely slow.
We'll take another look at the balancing - our goal is not to maroon players between purchases, but to prevent Lemonade Stands from completely out pacing the other investments by a large margin.
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Really love the game!
But somehow the offline bug started to appear for me after the update that should fix it. Any ideas?
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Based on this last 14th(ish) upgrade I would really love to see: "Buy All Money Upgrades"/"Buy All Angel Upgrades"/"Buy All Upgrades" buttons. The first few minuts after a reset I'm occupied with buying upgrades rather than buying my beloved lemonade stands :(
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3.715 Quintillion AIs. Time to make a backup.
Seriously though, that much l=rom 200bil in 3 l)ays... You guys know how to keep people making craptons ol= cash!
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Kinda sad they nerfed the Lemonade stands. I was making 500+ octillion a bar with them, now i'm not making nearly as much. :\ Oh well. Dev's know best.
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no offense, but this ain't no real "idle" game actually.
at later stages, you have to reset and start over every 5 minutes to "farm" AI's. The whole 5 minutes, you are clicking away to get 700+ of everything, get all the upgrades and so on. Then, reset and start over clicking clicking clicking. Really, this ain't no idle game. The only "idle" about is that it keeps continuing when you close the game. Yet, "real" progression is made by resetting every 5 minutes and farming AI's.
And i don't know, but you shouldn't play with the value's too often. I mean since i started, values changed alot of times. Make up your mind and leave it. An hour ago i was making super progress and now of the sudden don't even make half the progress. Not that it's super frustrating, but when you have a plan and you have to change it every day, the fun drops a bit.
I gave it 5 stars, changing it back to 4.
Any plans for the next updates or whatever?
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Wow, that was quite a nerf. At all 500 (except Lemon 1000) I was earning 1B AI a second, now after a reset doubling my AI and back to the same numbers I am earning 1M AI/s.
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The game seems to be causing me serious internet latency sporadically. I'm not entirely sure why, but I'm reasonably sure it is this game, as I've tested several things, and closing this fixes it every time.
I'm going to copy/paste my response to the comment below yours: We can help! Click "game bug" and let us know how many you lost - our support guy will get back to you asap (though please note we're a bit delayed today).
We can help! Click "game bug" and let us know how many you lost - our support guy will get back to you asap (though please note we're a bit delayed today).
Thanks very much! We're doing our best with a small team - it actually kind of surprises us how a lot of other developers aren't just simply less active, but are sometimes just stone-cold silent with the audience. (shrug?)
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the nerfing of the last update made the game extremely slow. had around 10 quadrillion AI which was doubling about daily. Now it's about an hour to get 20 trillion AI. :(
Apologies! Sorry - there's no easy way to say it. We had to spread the profits out a little to make sure Lemonade Stands didn't annihilate Oil Rigs. We want the two of those investments to compete for which one is the most awesome. We don't take re-balances like this lightly.
Working on it! iOS hit a snag yesterday, so we've still got some work to do. We actually want to launch our re-written version of the game when it's finished (on Android) because it will be more stable than our current build.
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Why exactly can't the angel investors upgrade come from the pool that we are earning during the current run-through? It would be nice to get those upgrades without cutting profits, just delaying the point at which we would next reset.
That's actually a cool idea - I was contemplating the fact that a player can't achieve a full, satisfying "boost", knowing that they had to lose active Angel Investors to get it. I might introduce a future Manager that lets you do this.
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Any suggestions for what to do if I lost my progress? I only had about 4 days into the game, but still that was around my first 9 quadrillion
We can help! Click "game bug" and let our support guy know how much you lost. Though please note - replies will be delayed today (our guy is Out Of Office right now).
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With all the upgrades coming in recently (and hopefully ones in the future) it might help to start categorizing them into drop down menus or something of that ilk, you could also incorporate the ability to buy that whole section in one, making it even quicker. This would help so that when we start making huge money we don't have to scroll, buy and scroll down some more as it's just a tad inconvenient. At least enabling us to use the scroll wheel on the menu would help this, this is a great game though guys, keep up the brilliant work :)
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" and I’ve added milestones x11 achievements for all the investments on the right side (they come slower though). " where is that achievment as i dont see it?
Check out the newspaper achievements! the 500, 600, 700, 800, and 900 achievement now boost the right-side investments instead of the newspaper itself.