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Let me understand this right: I spent 1 billion AIs for an upgrade but if I reset the game I'm not getting back the AIs nor the upgrade I spent them for and I'm not going to gain them back in any way?! So if I reset the game a few times, use all my AIs, I'm left without AIs and can't even gain back as I would with a hard reset?!
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I am sure this has been mentioned already but there seems to be an issue with money tracking. I currently have 140 nonillion but as far as angelic investors are concerned I have only earned 67 nonillion. Given I have most
business at 400 to 500 I have spent a ton as well. WAY off.
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Adding kreds for minor optional features/way to support the authors is acceptable, but PLEASE do not make it optimal.
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I just donated 30 kreds and I'm thrilled to do it. I've been sitting on those for years (won them somehow). You guys more than deserve it for creating an engaging game that somehow keeps me coming back a few times every day.
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sorry, upon re-reading my comment I realize I said "dolloars" instead of "dollars" and by "lemonade stand-donut shop" I meant "lemonade stands through donut shops"
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@darealgman angel investors are based on a factor times the square root of quadrillions of dolloars in all time cash earned. @TheEquinox13 the angel investor upgrades are just like the rest and have to be repurchased each time you soft reset, although the decrease in angel investors is permanent and each angel investor costs slightly more all time cash earned to get. Finally @Tenzhi once you get a large amount of newspaper stands the lemonade stand-donut shops actually earn a good amount because each achievement of newspaper stand is 7X or more for them while the achievements for shrimp and up are only 2X.
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cash earning indicator is not working well in the settings. After spending a few nonillion in upgrades, the cash earned is still at a few hundred octillion.
I don't know if this affects the angel earning or not.
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Enjoy the new updates, but of course you had to add the kreds in the game. which is stupid and lame, but on the bright side at least it doesn't ruin the game, or make it impossible to play if you don't spend kreds. A suggestion although it make be too late, for the upgrades you can spend creds on, how about change it too something like, sacrifice your total amount of angel investors for the upgrade (Of course it has to start at like 1 trillion and every time you use it you have to sacrifice more and more
) I think it'd be a good idea and people would really love, and . The big thing, it'll make people play the game more, and longer.
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And while the newspaper ads are interesting, at best they might justify the counter-intuitive costs from Newspaper to Donut Shop (though not really - while it might justify the newspaper having a higher cost than some tiers above it, it still doesn't make sense of the Car Wash being more expensive than the Pizza Delivery which is more expensive than the Donut Shop, etc.). Since they don't modify the Shrimp Boat and higher, the counter-intuitive pricing there still makes absolutely no sense.
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I have a question. Do Angel Investors get more difficult to acquire per reset, or is it tied to All Time Cash Earned?
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The same way the "Money Earned" is bugged is also the same thing for AI's earned. Currently with 1000 Lemonade stands and the other upgrades at either 400 or 500 (oil rig at 600), I earn .008 billion AI each tick of the oil rig. HOWEVER I earn about 5-10 times as much money with the lemonade stands/upgrades, yet am only earning .001 per tick of the oil rig. This really hurts for earning the AI
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They changed the achievement for 500. instead of speed doubled its profit doubled. Thats why oil will be stuck at 8 sec.
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Odd, I'm definitely getting angels a lot faster when I have the game closed... When I micro manage I get 10 or 20 billion in about 20 minutes, but when I close it completely for about 20 minutes, I get around 200 billion
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The AI Upgrades should really transcend game resets... I swear, the more this game gets upgraded the more I feel like I'm spinning my wheels and getting nowhere.
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THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND:
- The Kred purchases carry through resets
- Purchasing the AI upgrades multiplies total ouput. Paying the 1000 AI upgrade, for example, triples your income, effectively making each AI worth 3. If you have more than 1500 AI, you get a net gain in money earned.
- Some of the achievements were adjusted from 2x speed to 2x profit. If some upgrades seem slower than before, this is why.
- Your "Money Earned" stat and your actual amount of money earned aren't linked anymore. We'll find out why next update.
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Have a potential Kongregate Achieve name for this game... Maybe a medium or hard ... All your Lemon now belong to US! 500 Lemons :D
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Agree with Katrick. If the angel sacrifice/selection/intervention age +% effectiveness then they would be worthwhile with enough investors. Straight trade for profit and they aren't.
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Oh, so there are now micro-transactions in the game. Thank you. ( OMG I WANNA SWEAR SO BADLY DAMN YOU COMMENT RULES!)
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Correct me if I'm reading this wrong, but here is why you would want to trade angel investors for temp boosts.
Say you have 5 bil angel investors earning (for simplicity) 10% profit each. That means my profit is increased by 500mil times its base. If I spend 10k investors, I lose 1k times my base income, which is .0002% of my total income. In exchange, my income is multiplied by 3 INCLUDING my angel investor bonuses (3 times 500mil times base). So I lose .0002%, but gain 300%. Big improvement. Now I'll gain AIs much faster until my next soft reset.
Let's say I have 15k investors at 10% each (for simplicity) netting 1.5k times my base. If I spend 10k AIs for the 3x boost, I lose two thirds my total income (I'm down to 500 times base). Now the 3x bonus (3 times 500 times base) only brings me back to where I was before I bought the upgrade (1.5k times base), but I've lost all those AIs permanently and gained no benefit. Better to save them.
That's the basic theory as I understand it.
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Great update. However still causes Huge delays when I click to another tab. Maybe its eating to much of the browsers Resources? on the sequel or the update you may want to Simplify some of the Formula's and stream line the calculations. Got to say man Thumbs up for a novice. I hope to see more from you. I'm sure you'll get some Modest income from this one.
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How does the AI system work? With the new upgrades costing them I am now pretty skeptical of using them. Does the game track the amount of AIs I had at the start of every soft reset to assure fair AIs to be received upon next reset or does the AIs received go off of total-earned through out my entire gameplay?
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Just as an way to measure your game guys: now I have 3.8tri AI, 850 oil rigs making $69.705 dec per bar (all the others at 600, and lemonade at 1000), all upgrades bought. This setup makes me 628bi AI per minute.
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My game seems to be tracking "Money Earned" improperly - I bought the $5 nonillion upgrade and then clicked to see how many AIs I earned this session and total money earned was at $3.125 nonillion.
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I really think that buying upgrades with angel investors should decrease the price of the next angel investor. All time cash earned should give the same amount of angel investors, no matter how many you have spent. I realize that this would mean you would get a refund of angel investors once a product was bought. But you could counteract this by readjusting the price of the angel investor after a soft reset is done.
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Let's say you have 100 billion AI and have upgraded your AI to 6%. That's +600,000,000,000% (600 bil). Now you buy the 5x multiplier for 1 billion AI. Roughly speaking, you now have +594 billion percent times 5, which is north of +2,900 billion percent. So it's worth it, as long as a billion isn't a colossal amount of AI for you
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i just realized I didnt get all my cash when i close out the game due to me buying the x3 15 times... the bought x3 doesnt work when offline. that isnt advertised when I bought it... if its intentional that should have been advertised
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I just noticed, the 25 billion AI upgrades have the same effect as the 250 Million. I'm assuming this WAS intentional, as I haven't seen otherwise. I can see why, but that still kind of sucks.
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From 10 sept for External Revenue Service to 1 oct seems a bit steep, considering the way the tiers mostly go up to that point. I could see it better going from 10 sept, 100 sept, 500 sept, 1 oct, personally.
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So, now I really started to play the game: I started to buy the 1 tri AI upgrade. It keep doublig my AI number at a very fast rate now. This game is incredibly addictive, I wish the devs make a lot of money from this, they deserve it.