Comments for Rogue Fable II

Check out the forums, I made a post. Read my rational and give a response. I'm always willing to have a discussion. In regards to classes feeling underpowerd, I'm not sure I agree. There are literally hundreds of wins happening every day (see stats tracker) and I've personally won with every class and spoken to many people who have also beaten the game with every class. I've said it before, and this is not directed specifically at you, but this game is not an RPG it's a roguelike. It is supposed to be really really hard. Winning is supposed to be a big accomplishment and not something that every player will ever achieve. The classes are not supposed to feel powerful, you should win due to your cleverness and perfect play, taking every advantage possible. I beat the game with 4 range staves with both the necro and fire mage (I'm sure the storm mage is fine with his stun), so its certainly still winnable.

First few ideas will be in the ranger class (possible release tomorrow). Sleeping bomb is something I've been meaning to do, especially for those late game swarms. For the world map, my next game will use similar combat mechanics but be a much larger open world RPG without the permadeath, and more of a focus on developing a character (or party of characters) over a long campaign.

Check out the forums, I made a post. Read my rational and give a response. I'm always willing to have a discussion.

Check out the forums, I made a post. Read my rational and give a response. I'm always willing to have a discussion. Also always buffing and never nerfing is how you get power creep which eventually destroys the difficulty of the game.

Check out the forums, I made a post. Read my rational and give a response. I'm always willing to have a discussion.

Check out the forums I made a post. Read what I said and respond. I'm always willing to have a discussion.

I think people are downvoting you because pixel dungeon and this game are both classically inspired roguelikes which is a well established genre with many conventions. Neither pixel dungeon (or this game) invented these mechanics. Google roguelike or check out Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup, ADOM, TOME4, NetHack or Angband. These ideas have been around since the early 80s with the original game Rogue.

Yeah there's something crazy with them right now, they are on The List to be fixed.

Will let it stew for awhile. Balancing is always an ongoing process. My main concern is two parts. First I want the ranger, range skills, and range talents to be useful, so making ranged weapons have the best range is an obvious solution. Second, I want to encourage people to not play each class the same each time. The casters so far have been pretty much tied to their staves, there is never a reason to switch to another weapon you may find. With the range at 4 (maybe 5 if 4 is to short as your saying), there is more incentive to change weapons. A randomly generated game like this, in my opinion, should never have starting weapons that nullify any possible loot generated later.

Maybe yes, maybe no, balancing is a ongoing process. Even if this is entirely true (staves are definitely a straight up nerf), I don't see this as a problem. There are plenty of easy games out there for people to play, is it so bad if some of us developers want to make something challenging for a change? There are hundreds of people winning the game every day, just look at the stats tracking on the right, so its certainly not impossibly hard.

It might be, there have been some reports of enemies suddenly gaining super speed. I'm looking into it, this will help with the bug finding process. Thanks for the additional information!

I'd love to add some achievements when all the content, balance and bugs have been finished. Especially tricky ones like killing 5 enemies with a single lightning bolt or cleaving 6 maggots in the same turn with an axe. Thanks for the feedback!

But those poor melees have been dealing with this the whole time lol. Seriously though, balancing is ongoing so maybe 4 will end up being to short. My main goal is to make putting points into range a viable skill path and to make the ranger have some unique selling points. If the staves were left as is the ranger would just be a weak mage that uses ammo. I also want to make it more tempting to drop your staff as a caster halfway through and starting cross training into some other form of attack. The classes in this game are not really intended to be played straight through to the end game with no variation. Your encouraged to branch out as you find items and books.

This is the goal of my next project. I want to maintain similar combat mechanics, character progression and equipment but take the higher level design in the complete opposite direction. What I mean by this is I want to do an open world game, with no permadeath (though some kind of penalty for dying), and a significantly extended game length. I want to include towns, quests, proper NPCs and a real sense of exploration, discovery and progression. So much more in the direction of a classic open world RPG like the original fallout series, ultima, elder scrolls etc. I think its important that this game retain its core design principles (short games, permadeath, very hard), and then do something completely different with the next project.

Good ideas, lock picking has been mentioned quite a few times. To make up for those cases where you don't get enough treasure vaults spawned maybe it could be something like Treasure Hunter: lets you pick locks and doubles the gold you find. Shroomology I want to keep for just the warrior (I want to remove it from barbarian), to give the warrior tome some useful things to encourage people to cross train into it. Mental fortitude is actually a great idea, the rogue definitely needs more passives. Also not blink but a sprint ability is in the works (functionally its nearly the same thing). Thanks for the feedback!

The main strategy I use is once I hit ice or lava, I immediately stop trying to clear floors completely and just race for the stairs popping all my stockpiled consumables like a mad man. I'm not sure if its even possible to kill everything down there as its extremely deadly (by design). I wanted the game to end with an exciting finish rather than just the same careful, plodding, clearing of every floor. I've won many a games with my hands on the goblet, surrounded by enemies with fireballs zooming in.

Thank you! Ice mage is coming!