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There should be a penalty for disconnecting rather than just losing. This should be offset by a "resign" button to let the person lose gracefully
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The 2nd Kongai League will be starting fairly soon, and is still open for signups. Anyone of Skill Rank 25 or greater is eligible to join - http://www.kongregate.com/forums/1/topics/53844
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Geez. Truthful rants? More like a biased rant. Perhaps its not that you have a good position to say that, maybe its just that you're telling others what your UGLY experience with luck was, and because you're too much of a jerk, you told other people that all of those people who had won their 200 games won by sole chance. Sure, some could have got with a one hit kill w/ Popo. But at other times, you could have scored a critical Pilebunker + Necromantic Tome + Soul Crushed w/ Cornelius Constantine. Luck does play a part, but in a match, NORMALLY (not in your case of 150matches), both sides have their own "lucky" situations. don't go justifying cars are red because your whole family and friends are using red cars, others are using whites and blues.
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Twinge, there is no self-delusion on my part. Since i'm the one playing in my matches and not you, i think i'm in a better position to say what's determining their outcome:) You are the deluded one in thinking your actually using solid skill in this game. I'm sorry you don't like my truthful rants.
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It is silly when people complain about the randomness factor as if it were a fluke or computer glitch. Randomness is built into the game. It clearly states a % chance to hit on attacks.
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@discoagogo: so most of your matches are decided by luck? Well, most people got their match by skill, so probably yours by luck :D. Either the win or the lost. So, well, lets just say you have a really really really bad luck while others dont. so dont justify your own belief as though its public knowledge, man....
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Wow, disco has been busy! Guess I'm sorry I wasted time explaining exactly why the game wasn't all luck and giving concrete examples of how it would be impossible for it to be mostly luck when he was blabbing the same nonsense in chat last night. Also, lol @ "If Kongai is skill then why do i never improve? Bacause it's based on luck, not skill" and "You can't expect me to believe this is a genuine skilful game when i've lost about 50 matches where opponents got lucky." -- I've never seen such a perfect example of self-delusion before. I'll say it once more: If you want to get better at the game, your first step is to admit your losing because you are awful at the game and stop blaming luck. It boggles my mind how you can recognize that Poker is a game of skill while denying that Kongai is as well.
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Mateusz: while higher rank players generally are forced to play lower ranks and thus maintain more wins than losses, the ranking system would be poor indeed if maintaining a 1:1 ratio against equal rank players caused you to rank down.
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ha ha norps, did back luck bite you on the arm? Ah, that nasty bad luck lost you the match, what a shame!
I am not a troll and i am not stupid. I also think your a wretched creature for calling people such names just because they express an opinion. Mateusz, nearly all my losses and wins were due to luck, that's simple fact.
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i love that you guys are still debating this. the ones saying it is all luck are obviously trolls. that or theyre stupid. though i suppose being stupid is a requisite for being a troll. ignore them and theyll go away. though luck raped me a little today,(a guy with elusive feather on juju evaded 5 separate ambush's but never tried to hit me with anything but a touch of doom so i still won), i still have a 6 to 1 win/loss ratio.
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@ discoagogo, AUDAN & many others
Luck is NOT the decisive factor in Kongai. Let the fact that there are people with high rank points. When u are at a decent rank u can't maintain it by 1:1 win-loss ratio. U need something like 2:1 or even 3:1 at the highest rank to stay where u are, not to mention climbing up. The fact that people are that high should be a good enough argument. Obviously, when u miss a power toss u can say that u lost a game because of lock, but with decent skill u can make recoveries after such unlucky stuff (even wothout aid of luck). U tend to remember the most harmful things that happenned to u, that's obvious. A few days ago I lost a game having 95% 4 the win and l8r another 98%. But I realize luck helped me also quite a few times. And don't say u lost a game because u missed a poison dart and he didn't, that's just a minor advantage that if u are good u should manage 2 deal with.
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@ mohawk.. so i can't predict my opponent's move in chess.. i dont think it's basically luck. its strategy. with the possibility of good/bad/neutral outcomes. Games in the genre? its a multiplayer card collecting/rock paper scissor game. you're not supposed to know exactly what your opponent is going to do. what kind of easy cheap waste of time game would that be
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AUDAN to prove the percentages are broken you would have to do a statistical analysis. Just because power toss missed 3 times in a row doesnt prove anything. It is entirley plausible.
For the record I have only ever missed twice out of the dozens and dozens of times I've used the move
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Kongai is a great game, but the criticism is lawful. The skill factor is here, but the luck factor is broken. For example we talk about 98% chance to hit and missing 3 times in a row - it's ridiculous. The rest is great diversity of characters and nice skill factor. But the broken chances really ruins the game. I didn't enter Kongai long time and I am sad (but not surprised) to see 30 peoples playing right now, when last years there was hundreds of players.
Kongai still needs fixing. And what happened with the Knights, Pirates and Witches? :(
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the luck in kongai is when u or ur oponent miss, dodge maybe some criticals some times it happens cuz of the itms but rest is skill from my point of view
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All i can do is speak from my own personal experience. I played 100 matches and almost all of them were decided by moments of luck. You can't expect me to believe this is a genuine skilful game when i've lost about 50 matches where opponents got lucky.
Ievan Polkka, i don't know why your record is that good. Perhaps you cheat. Perhaps your very lucky. But it can't be because your skilful since luck is the overriding factor in Kongai.
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There isn't that much luck guys. I'm 29-2 in ranked games, and if this game is luck, that'd be like flipping 31 quarters and getting 29 heads...not likely. It's based on skill and having a good team.
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@For those you believed Kongai is luck: Discoagogo is only up for a debate, he doesn't really believe that. c'mon its obvious right? 1st of all, a luck game is "Rolling a Dice", you can't control what goes over the whole game, its basically fate while in Kongai you can actually determine what you can do, there are several options. 2nd of all, THINK LOGICALLY :D. If its a luck game, how come some of the top rankings have a 800-200 (W/L) ratio? That's practically impossible if you do the math.
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And Dwune, the reason you don't improve is probably because you just suck at reading the opponent, i.e. yomi, which is something that not everybody is good at. I myself am not very good at it, but some people are just naturally gifted at predicting the opponent, or if you want to say it's luck, guessing right almost every time.
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This game is most definitely not mostly luck. People who claim this game is mostly luck just don't know how to predict their opponent, for that is where the skill of this game lies. This game is all about predicting the opponent, which means that you have to be able to analyze the opponent for their past patterns and essentially make a prediction about what the opponent will do based on past experience. If this game were luck, how can people in the top ten remain in the top ten? You can argue that luck brought them there, but if this game were primarily luck, then they should fall from the top ten, yet they still remain. Why is that so? It's because this game is not luck, not any more luck than a game like poker is. Making educated guesses is not luck, for not everybody can make educated guesses and succeed.
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If Kongai is skill then why do i never improve? Bacause it's based on luck, not skill:) >> discoagogo, that has to be the funniest thing I ever heard. I guess there's your problem right there, expecting an impersonal thing as a game to cater to your feelings of entitlement. Good riddance, boy.
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can some1 send me a shout and tell me how to get the medium badges, idk wht human interception is and i keep playing 3 card, and it still says i need 10 more wins, wht do i do?
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And having completed 100 matches and gained a measly 43 wins, it's time for me to retire. I'm glad to have corrected your original delusions that this game was mostly skill-orientated. Farewell.
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You are actually right yogz, no i don't like the game, but obviously that doesn't make it a bad game. The reason i don't like the game is becasue i prefer games based on skill, that's my personal choice. You lot like the high luck element involved, that's your personal choice:)
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well yogz, i've never actually said i hate the game, all i said was it was mostly based on luck, and my bad luck means i mostly lose. Your the one trolling now:)
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aw shucks. just the 'Peek' in the Description part of the game. just above this shoutbox....you'll see on quite the bottom part ('Focus on Strategy and Read the Opponent') WHY the creator didn't see this game as 100% luck-based...geez. I wanted to tell you to just raise your rank to experience the 50-50 luck ratio, but just read the whole thing first and then come back to this game you hate so much and tell me what's luck.
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calling someone on the river is hoping your guess is right too. but you also have experience with the player and probability to help you, which is why he was distinguishing between guessing and guesswork.
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Sorry yogz, you've lost me. Clearly if your making a guess your hoping you'll guess right, that's clearly luck. Your complex drivel isn't enough to convince otherwise.
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'how should i know when to fold in poker?' Very easy, when your hand is unlikely to win. I fail to see the connection with Kongai, your getting a bit desperate now:)