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Math: You're absolutely right, what makes characters like Anex and CC so amazing is that they have viable moves even at the range where they should be least comfortable. Phoebe is probably better at ranged damage than Anex (vs. all characters, not just each other) but is forced to use weak stalling moves at close range where Anex can still brawl fairly effectively. Also, it doesn't help that Phoebe's rapid lashes do great damage at high speed against a lot of characters, Anex just doesn't happen to be one of them.
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Rambobatman. Anex should always get close vs phoebe, critstoned or not, so her chances of winning are almost 100%, as opposed to a measly 70%. Phoebe really can't do much at close, and if she gets far, she needs to wait a turn to PL, where Anex can get close again/PT.
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Twinge: my point was not that the metagame requires that you play the top 5 characters it was that it gets boring playing against them. As for phoebe vs anex, I'm pretty sure that you'd agree phoebe's best item is sharpening stone and given that, her chances of winning the power lash/power toss gambit are about 50/50. Also, anex might never have been bad but the difference between 90% and 100% on BS is huge. I think all chase attacks should follow spectral choke's example, 95% to hit and 95% to proc is fairly reliable but, it doesn't put players in situations where they're going to die to rising dragon and there is absolutely nothing they can do about it.
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Quickening is pretty good. If you lead with a gimmick attack like touch of doom, having a chance to avoid the other person's attack rocks.
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Only with QP does Rising dragon get interrupted, or does Touch of Doom beat out Hypnostare do on unsuspecting opponents, but it still doesn't hide the fact that Quickening Powder is a terrible card.
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please....... new cards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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WamboOSX - Quickening Powder is the worst card in the game and should never be used unless there is no other reasonable alternative available. A speed boost isn't very useful when you don't know if you'll have a boost until after you use the attack!
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The Card may not be the best(actually it is one of the worst^^) but the game u have to play to get is really good it is fun and does not take 2 Long and i think thats what Kongregate wanted making u play a funny game...
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@wringsteak
Some people had played it before the card and its not that bad. Beside there are the 50 points through achievments and its really easy to get them all 30min is more than enough. I made it in 10.
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Hi it is normal for me to only have 6 cards after 16 winning ranked match?? i've seen peopel with alot more cards than me at lower lv ?
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goodby1 - Starters are functionally the same as other cards. |||| chocolaterules - Helene doesn't need to gain Popohax, there are better ways to fix her. |||| karthik_king - Not much has changed AFAIK, except maybe the meta being more ValkAnex heavy and everyone realizing Helene sucks :P |||| wringsteak - Hyp Stare will 'miss' based on the attack it is copying; e.g. if you reflect a Pilebunker, there's a 10% chance it'll miss. |||| wringsteak - Might as well earn QP, theoretically it might get fixed some day ;O But it is funny that they followed up Helene with one of the very very few cards that are even worse than her! |||| Spudder19 - Almost every game I've played has been at least 10 minutes. The timer settings are about right, but I wouldn't be wholly opposed to an auto-forfeit if someone times out on several range changes AND move selections in a row.
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really, kongregate?? quickening powder?
youre really going to expect ANYONE to bother playing that game to earn quickening powder?
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i´m an Anex + Sharpening Stone user and i love her the way it is . But I hate that Anex+Valkyrie Charm , because it ruins a little too much the balance of the game. So please nerf the card , not poor little Anex :).
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i disagree. if annex without charm, annex is completely useless fighting, Le Morte.
I think annex speed for boomerang should be 6
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i <3 seeing anex with ANY item but valk charm.
SO much easier to deal with. still needs a small fix, but no charm makes her almost well-balanced.
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@dhji - thanks for being yet another sr30+ player who should know better than to just close the window instead of forfeiting. its pretty poor behaviour.
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who agrees that to make helen better her inate should be that she has 25% to block all attacks.. it would make her more powerful and they could call it like, "sheild block"
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Dumb question: is there a difference between starter cards and replay cards in terms of performance or anything else?
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List of people that leave without pressing forfeit: Ashtaway,
Pielucha,
farewell,
H3rbix,
happypomelo,
czarny84,
alan014,
topera,
davobio
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Dick - If you really wanted to do the math, you'd see that Phoebe needs to either crit or stun (and not miss PL) to win against Anex at far, for a net of 30.6% =) Of course, you could also complicate matters by looking at the chances both miss, etc. but that's pretty rare. Simple enough to say Phoebe wins about 1 in 3 though, I guess :/. |||| ddent123 - Rumiko is basically perfect - she is strong without being overpowered. 70% Evis is not 100%, and 50% chance to dodge intercepts is not 100% either. The numbers are correct. She completely sucks against tanks (especially Oni), and generally only matches are even does slightly worse against people like VV, Yoshi, etc. |||| Kenji135 - If your opponent's Yoshiro tried to intercept your Onimaru, there probably wasn't much *thinking* involved in the first place ;P
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The mechanics are the same, but good players using ValkAnex are a lot more threatening than crap players using her, same with JujuFeather - and better players mostly play ranked. (Partially true with any char, of course, but some don't shine at all with bad players.) |||| I didn't have a chance to play back in the day, but best I can tell ValkAnex was never bad and Helene was never good - players were just dumb and didn't know how to range dance. Helene is not bad because of a slowed FS & SB; she would still be bottom tier if she reverted to her old self. Likewise, ValkAnex with a 90% BC is still top tier. |||| Re: the meta, you don't need to run Ubie/ValkAnex/CC to do well in ranked, but you should be at least aware of the meta. You can actually run someone like MLM and still do well in ranked, but I don't think the same is true of Helene (and probably Andro/Phoebe either with ValkAnex popularity). I think random in ranked gives you better odds than running Helene on purpose.