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OMIGOD FINALLY THIS ON THE FRONT PAGE!!! I love this game so hard. I used to play oodles two years ago, but now it's on kongregate, i don't think i'll sleep tonight! :D gjgjgjg 5 star + favorite!
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i *hate* trying to control the AI. i can't tell it what to shoot, i can't queue orders, i can't even tell it to stand still. i can tell it to follow, but half the time that will result in the bot moving away from what i told it to follow.
and it would also be nice to be able to concede a match. getting frustrated on Challenge 4 would be *slightly*less annoying if i could get on with it once my sword dies, but no, i have to let the shield wander around and wait for it to die, too.
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I found short directional commands worked much better than long ones (i.e. move right over here, not move way over there). There does need to be a way to bring up a menu, or quit, during a battle though. Or at least pause.
Still, lots of fun. 4/5
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I got the card but I thought getting the card was something to work hard for not something to earn easily over 5 measly battles
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Entropy, I beat all seven challenges.
And my career is gone... I really don't feel like playing through the game again...
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this game is hard, but not impossible. it's worth a 3-4/5
@darkrockslizer: you shouldn't rate a game lower because of it's challenges and achievements. kongregate make them, not the game creator. and if you disconnect while in the middle of a game, don't blame the creator.
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The simple mod that if you follow a target you would actually shoot at the target would be a vast improvement.
Another would be on the challenge modes list what your bots actually have for weapons.
Finally, AI must be a NASCAR fan as they seem to continually spin to the left.
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Hm, apparently I did get the badge... after reloading twice, it showed up - realized after giving it a score of 2, my points were updated :-)
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challeng 4 wouldn't be as much of a pain, if you could at least quit midway during a battle... that way you wouldn't have to wait a minute for the dragon to take out the sword :-/
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Unless I'm missing something, this game doesn't seem to allow for much user control. Meaning it's heavily dependant on AI - which usually does the opposite of what I think it should be doing. can you order your bots to focus fire?
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this is it. I didn't get the badge after miraculously completing 4th challenge, which was while I was disconnected from Kongregate, and now my rating is 1/5 instead of 4/5 when I played it for fun once before this badge was made. F4k it.
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Alsom as you will see in the evasion challenge (#2) if a bot hits a wall or obstacle it gets all manner of confused. So the cardinal rules are don't let your bots hit anything and don't let them reach destinations. In career mode, you CAN use "follow target" command, but only if your weapon has little or no minimum range.
Updated to 5 stars. Once you understand how the AI works, it really is a well-done game. Just difficult when precise moves need to be made to simultaneous bots.
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Beat the career, now stuck on 4th challenge. A few things I've learned: 1) due some challenges first, esp Evasion. you learn a LOT about AI. 2) In 4th Challenge, DRAGON has min range - if the shield gets too close it will change targets to the sword... both must be kept about the same distance from the dragon - the dragon DOES attack the shield over the sword but it cannot be too far or too close. Very difficult to juggle.
When managing one bot, it is apparent the AI is decent, but need constant input. If you leave a bot to get to the destination, it either wanders or attempts to fight on its own - often in futility. CONSTANTLY direct bots and don't let them reach their destinations.
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The game is fun despite the indescribably horrible controls. Career mode is reasonably easy to beat, but several of the challenges are virtually impossible with no control over your bots.
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The career mode is fun and relaxing. The challenge mode is improperly balanced. In a properly balanced training/challenge mission you should easily win if you get the point and always loose if you can't figure out a good strategy. In these missions you have to keep at it for so long, even after gaining a big advantage through proper strategy, that you will inevitably slip up and loose. It would work much better and be more fun if the enemy simply had less armour.
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after playing this game a few more times through....my rating has actually dropped. The challenges are either completely random or completely stupid, the AI and movement controls in this game are absolutely hideous
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This game is SOO frustrating...the AI is absolutely braindead, the movement controls are terrible and unreliable...please work on it
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OMG!!! this game is soooo annoying!! i've beaten it its not impossible...
but WTF are the robots so stupid??????? and even when you give them commands... they hardly ever comply with them!!! and why isn't there a "stand ground" option???????????????? so the damn things can stay still and shoot!!
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giga that is impossible, you probably mistook a piece of armor or weapon, otherwise they would both simultaneously shoot if they entered the same area
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Can't seem to get the 4th challenge... They gave the opponent bot a weapon with a minimum range :-(... makes it extremely frustrating.
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Distracting is next to impossible. Before the dragon dies your shield will end up going past his minimum range often enough so that the sword dries.
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I still love this game, although not tried the challenges yet, just career mode. I've finished it once, happy to try it again, because it was on a different pc. 5/5 Glad the card is on this one :o)
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I won't be getting the second hard badge... just too frustrating, it seems to me that even some Korean Starcraft-gosu would have his problems =<