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@Aelendril be prodigy, equip True Sorcery and craft+wear equipment that grants character xp from sources/actions/else. Archivist IMHO as pet, so you might as well gain some mysts. Same for 220 and likely 240 when you reach those milestones, although Temporalist could be better then.
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@Tecit, Chiropteric (maxed) calls a bat in 12m in default. Maybe weapon charging pants will speed this up. Finally i've decided to spend dust - too hard buffing with manual batsm anyway. That was my mistake to spend Relics on auto expeditions, not bathunter :)
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3xpr3ss I need to play heretic some more. When you hit paragon 34 and get void memetics, it should boost heretic. I hope the general advice post i made gives some help. I would not do a realm change without the auto expedition, catalyst gain.
How long does it take for the chiro rod wep to create 1 bat? Maybe something like the crystal ball wep would give a spell cast gain that is worth more, compared to time spend with each wep active time. Maybe do spend the dust on buffs = rune gain = trial gain = lots of bonus like faster bat gain.
Each exile added to total also gives a bonus, Just cant remember where. But a perma buff in the current realm run.
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@3xpr3ss Its allways diffecult to follow someones writing unless the item name is also followed with what kind it is, as weapon Redemer. But yes makes sense now, i understand the point, chiro rod is for the buffs from bats collected with it. As to not spend dust on buffs. Redeemer really is the weapon for heretics. I havent tried it that much but have it upg max. I did not spend dust on buffs until hmm realm change with the 160k mems. Didnt need to, but been doing it every day since then, i guess i just buffed my dust gain enough, to do so. 1-2 times/day 5-10k yellow dust spend. the flow of archon earning mana then switching to xp upg gear for xx hours after buff runs out. The all eater doesnt work for me unless i use void gear, its like 5 times more from void.
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@Tecit, i plan to use Chiropteric just to get some buffs form bats, that temporary ones. All-eater suxx for Heretic, even with void gear and his special void spells. I think it get more from casts then pure VM, even with Voidterror. Redeemer shines for me, despite the class suffer till about 1-2e6 memory.
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3xpr3ss crono rod, is it really worth it? mine is zero upg, caught 107 bats this exile, gives 34k profit bonus.
My all eater is max upg, ench to lvl 20. gives 70 million bonus. Just try the all eater where you buff it while using max void gear. It seems the rod, even with 107 bats caught in 24 hours, is so much weaker. ofcourse the bonus could be better if i had it upg, but then again, have a try.
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General advice. Save up for shop bought upg. 1: Bat collector, 2: auto expedition, 3: standard upg, 4: standard upg 2.
Memory/realm upg. ofcourse depends on total points and what is available. But go for "foundation" upg for easier realm change. = auto or faster trial completing,faster runes, and some extra dust. And "tools" bold followers = faster auto expedition. The rest of my points are spread out where the bonus/points seems to give the best benefits for the cost. example, 30 days since last realm change, ive maxed my completed trials at 400, getting all the bonuses, but only done 147 total. saving up runes to my soft cap of 30 before doing realm change. Preparing that way for a quicker realm change power return. same way i save up blue dust for exile change, because i use the "enigmatic parchment" offhand gear, so after exile i spend the saved 5-20k bule dust to get ench dust, that gives the parchment currently 120k char ability bonus.
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@LeMonk212 I will say Archon is the best. have equipment setups. 1: mana, 2: void. 3: xp, 4: crafting/dust. switch between them and use spells that benefit each setup. Archon has a fast mana gain but also long term constant bonus growth.
Shaman has too many spells and its really the necro ones that boost it. The gear upg is summoning, so spending dust on that limits your play to that.
The oni, well 3 settings x 3 gear setups, its madness.
desolator seems useless. Temporist, i tried with some of its specialized gear upg, hundreds of years skipped in time, nothing really came of it. Archon instant power + growth seems soo much more powerful, even over time. Heretic, maybe has potential, but even though i have void gear max and enchanted to lvl 20 with archon use, heretic still seems slow, no not having the permanet growth of archon. realm change 30 days ago at 160k mem. now im at 160k more if i realm change. but it allso grows 6k/day. Its a balance, archon just seems the best choice.
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@LeMonk212 - In theory, assuming you have the best equipment for the class all at Epic+ and limitless time to play actively, it looks like it is probably the Temporalist. The Archon requires less (particularly in active play), but it is slower in the best case. My main source: https://idle-wizard.fandom.com/wiki/Class_Timescaling_Guide
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If i max Chiropteric Rod (12m to bat) and equip
Temporal Scabbard (100% weapon charge speed), there will be 6m bats? I want maxed buffs before burst and tired to spend yellow dust.
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What t focus on for memories depends a lot on youor preferred class. For Archon, Remembering Complexity is very strong. Forefather's Wor and Muscle memory are also very nice. Recalling Power is pretty good.
That said, by now (2e5 memories), I have also maxed Reclaimed Methods
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Ih8regin, its all a balance on when the limit is reached regarding realm change, got 160k memories, will get 132k now if i change. I set some goals, wanted to do x2 or x3, doubt that is realistic. so now my goal is atleast myst e800, at e779 now, 8 days or so to go. currently 23d20h since last realm change. other goal is getting shop upg stanard upg to 2, to get 2nd god selection. As that will make regain after realm change easier again.
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Ih8regin Yes i pushed to lvl 220 for legacy boost, now stuck at 49. I Have considdered other classes, but so much says archon is the best. Many of them have the strangest/too many spells to pick from compared to spell slots. Archon has so many possibilities, quick growth and then all the perma buffs over time. The other classes lack one or the other play style. I have tried to boost The accumulator weapon rather then all eater, but havent upg it to max, so for now it seems really bad compared to all eater, however with JMS it grows really fast. Its more a end game/realm change stuck situation. Pushing for void memetics growth, n2 and n3 need to be lvl 15. at myst e770. 2d3h myst e6 growth. Realm change has to make sense, loosing all pantheon and more is a great cost.
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And if you're really stuck with archon, perhaps it's time to check other T2 classes, it's possible that say Oni can be pulled up to par within two days, or Shaman, although I feel like AC builds being orders worse than spell-based ones. I tried temporalist but it didn't grow as well as archon, but it's good to amp legacy if you're stuck on character level stage.
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@Tecit blue cats work like (1+bonus)^quantity, so those 4.96% are given each time you upgrade a blue cat, and 1.0496^186=8136.xxx so kinda matched, after all the displayed value is rounded, and rounding a base for exponent gives a lot of error for actual value. The Head is charged for log(mana)*log(void mana)*log(casts+VE+AC) (with coefficients) so with that many casts JMS offers there's no need amping either VE or AC, but void mana is required indeed.
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Ih8regin, my mana income spell setup is, missile storm, radiant pool, syphon power, nullzone, fire with fire, karnaphens spellshroud. weapon all eater. I imagine you use the same and found it its about e2 higher then Debilitate with speelstealer. That is if all eater is setup with voind gear. and yes i switch to void gear to max my void then income gear. getting a little Deb buff or other while geathering void. But i also got XP gear setup where i change the spells a bit to get all buffed up like tempered arcanomancy is at 1.56Qi%. JMS is perma on spellslot for the casts and switching it all up with gear doing spell buffs. It all stacks but still getting stuck at this lvl.
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Ih8regin i noticed green cats say 926 + 189.00% = total 175.20k% my blue cats now say 196 x 4.96% = total 1.32M%
Notice the green is a + while blue is x.
But before i got catalyst memetics unlocked the blue where like half or worse then green in the total bonus. Some f up math going on. Gettting 300k + amounts of catalyst overnight atm, it hardly does anything.
well theres +20k% income at e1500, then 400% offline income at e1564 and then next 20k% income at e1591. So from e1400 its all memetics bonus and that only comes from craft dust. Pantheon becomes a tiny bonus that takes days to make a dent. spend my 4x 36 hour time boost, so now i earned e4 myst in 1d11h. The Deb+Cs gave me a boost earlier. But out of real options now, its too early to do another realm change.
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@Tecit exponential buff is never useless, and blue cats are exactly that. Re Head of All-eater, yep I tried and found out JMS really caps Deb after several hours, so I now spam Deb+CS while gathering void mana. And thanks for warning, getting close (e1200 mana).
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@ih8regin the math in this game is a total mess. Theres no way to predict anything without testing it, like gear combinations with different bonuses, char/pet/income/incan/evo.
Heres and example after i got catalyst memetics unlocked, Blue catalyst used to be useless. look at this on my arcanaspring.
Green 889 x 153% = 136.02k%
Blue 186 x 4.96% = 815.34K%
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@ihregin your head? The all eater weapon? You need to set its bonus with max void gear.
I actually only go offline when the game crashes because of adds or the stupid discord spam.
Theres zero catalyst gain from auto expedition shop unlock if your offline. losing like 50k catalyst when it crashes and i go offline.
Little warning e1400 mana upwards is total hell. next mana bought upg is it e1560.
Everything at this point is all paragon and memetics grinding bonus. Took me 24h to myst 767 to 769, doing 2 day exile pauses now.
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@LeMonk212 Yes The all eater is very powerful, you set its bonus with all void gear. Atm mine gives 567 million bonus. And with my archon setup with missile storm that gives me e2 more mana = 100 times more mana then i can get debilitate to give with spellstealer. Not sure if ihregin has tried the missile storm setup or not, if he somehow can get it to give the same or better.
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@LissyTheArch, i've used to ride Rubedo on my evocation stage, but Muscle Memory actually got me the same effect. I'm sure it's better to have bonus casts on my other spells, not just accumulated one. And a little more evo boost from chants ))
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@3xpr3ss- Unless Zenith is essential to your play (I would guess not), I wouldn't worry too much. I got Zenith the second time I was at Paragon 34, after several realms, and levels (3) in Timeless Frame (which may or may not be a coincidence).
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@LeMonk22 - Yes. I am saying you may already have crafted all the weapons, head, chest, hands, feet, waist, neck, finger, back and wrist items. There may be nothing new to craft until Paragon 23, which opens another item slot.
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@LeMonk212- you could be below Paragon 9 (if you exiled)
Otherwise, maybe you have a checkbox or selection in one of the equipment menus that is filtering everything out? Unchecking all the boxes and setting the item type drop-down to 'All' should remove the filters.
Also, make sure you have 'Gear' or 'Crafting' selected in the upper right.
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nvm about the lvl i thought i had max mastery it was empathy i had my max on xd reset it in a blink i went from 134 to 140 thanks yall!
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I have not managed to get to lvl 144, but im doing the spell swap thingy thanks, also, the druids weapon, ive used it but the all eater was better, ig with void mana its better for the druid tho thanks!
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@LeMonk212- If you give your attributes, spell slot setups, equipment, etc. I may be able to help, though I have played Archon a lot more. Alternatively, use https://idle-wizard.fandom.com/wiki/Shaman_Guide
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@LeMonk22 make sure you have 2 item build to swap. build up void mana, then when you reach the max you can get, swap to autoclicked. use void resonance to build up. make sure your hotbar is spider swarm, deepwood stalker, rules of nature, unholy avatar, magical weapon, and ever growing forest. your items should be a mix of druid and necromancer. weapon should be druids
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Almost every class requires to be online. This is Idle Wizard, not offline wizard. As i've noticed, a very few things rise with pure time spent.
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@LeMonk22 try archon, while it requires you to be online (atm) for some hours, it gives you e10/day after TA and e5/day before TA. Check archon guides on fandom wiki.
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antone have tips for getting past paragon 22? ive been using shaman risen giant so long i have autoclicks with numbers like "6.38e603{E19}" and i got farther faster with necro risen giant
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When a spell efficiency changes while a spell of that type is in progress, the general rule is that the change will affect that spell immediately, although there are a few incantations that will retain their starting efficiency until they expire.
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@ih8regin it's better to equip inc gear, cast buffs and switch to evo gear for burst. If inc spells remain in the same slots, buffs will keep their power casted in inc gear.
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I use incantation buffing gear more than evocation when bursting, with evo suited where there's no inc. And with Head, the buff on head's image is times while on head's tooltip is percents, so both figures are right. My head is only at 120k (1.22e5 or 1.22e7%), it gets VERY slow to amp as I level up. And, did you check if your Soulstealer gains xp while offline? Mine doesn't, like totally, I expected 25 levels from 6h wait, got zilch.
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@ih8regin I experimented with debilitate and soul stealer and found a better combination for buffing the char skill with it. But my missile storm still gives more mona income with the combination i use. Are you using mostly evocation gear for it?
My All-eater weapon gives 50mill% or 500k% bonus to income, not sure if the screen shown or mouse over is correct. missile storm is 100-200k magic missiles cast/sec. The rest of my spells are incantation. my gear is mixed buffs. the m storm gives 10-20 times more then debilitate with this setup. But the exp with better buff from debilitate has given an even greater income in total/time.
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@Tecit well it turned out you're right, but CS/Deb are still useful to amp spending shards CAP part. Yep, JMS boost ended up about e3 higher than Deb... weird tho.