seems like a jerk. He hasn’t clearly outlined what cheating is, and is resetting people left and right. I haven’t been reset, but I can only imagine how angry i would be. Another grievance I have with the developer is that it seems like he has stretched the series to make money. The series was great, and is still good, but with this addition it seems like he has focused a lot on making money off of the players by introducing crystals and energy bars and other elements that make the game less fun and more grindy. All in all, the developer has cheapened the series and it makes me sad to see a good game corrupted by greed.

I’m on the developers side on this. What sense of achievement is left if everyone else cheats? It would be like runescape, why even bother maxing your skills when everyone else it using bots. And, yes, leveling up like crazy with an exploit is cheating.

There is few player hack the game . Their lvl is something like 9998 . We delete them . And the horrible thing is , 9998lv player is dont have stats ( 0 0 0 0 ) so it get abused by “cheat” player while we still working on the game and they get a lot of xp and gold , etc. Also when there is a space bug , they used this glitch to farming top player. And lastly, someone hack our crystal system so they have a lot of crystal content . There is some account which have legit play get resetted, and we already messages them and say sorry . We have add some crystal as compensation.

ummm rudy i liked ur other epic war games but…this one has kinda gone down because i farmed on rapbanana on friday but u reset me like a jerk but i kinda feel sorry that u don’t wanna put a limit lvl that u can get by farming hacks plz think about this idea ok???

How about.. if you really don’t like it that much not playing it?

I am not a game developer, but I am a developer (websites). I am aware of how much time, effort, imagination, and consideration goes into (most) games worth releasing, because it’s the same for any good website… as well as just about everything else in life (assuming you’re not just dumb lucky). Dogging on the dev for creating a game in a series of not two, three, four, but FIVE FREE FLASH GAMES of literally epic proportions is rather childish. That ENTIRE argument is completely stupid, and shouldn’t even be breached. Making games is time consuming and sometimes expensive. Wanting to get a little back for all of your hard work (or even a little MORE), is nowhere near selfish, cheap, arrogant, or any other ignorantly used adjective you might imagine up. It’s just practical. Please get real.

You are not “getting” it. I have no problem with a developer wanting to get something back. I have a problem doing it at a FREE site. I get how labor intensive it is, and how much goes into making these games. Feel free to sell them. Just not at a FREE site. Get it?

Putting content that you must pay for in a multiplayer game and then making that content give players an advantage in PvP creates unbalance. That’s why I don’t like it.

I don’t care about how shitty this game’s new features are as long as the developer makes new games without these shitty new features. Which he will do, right?

> *Originally posted by **[revstevil](/forums/143/topics/262627?page=1#posts-5659281):*** > > You are not “getting” it. I have no problem with a developer wanting to get something back. I have a problem doing it at a FREE site. I get how labor intensive it is, and how much goes into making these games. Feel free to sell them. Just not at a FREE site. Get it? they should have it like it is in rotmg. the buyable stuff isnt required or needed and it doesnt give players any advantages(with the exception of vaults and char slots) but the makers of rotmg still make money, but a game that requires you to pay money to be good is lame.

> *Originally posted by **[revstevil](/forums/143/topics/262627?page=1#posts-5659281):*** > > You are not “getting” it. I have no problem with a developer wanting to get something back. I have a problem doing it at a FREE site. I get how labor intensive it is, and how much goes into making these games. Feel free to sell them. Just not at a FREE site. Get it? This entire post is completely stupid. Kongregate itself even promotes purchasable shit (Kong Plus, Kreds) on its own website, so maybe you should be boycotting the entirety of Kongregate if this is in fact your problem, or at least bitch directly to them as well as the other dozens of game devs selling their games on this site. My god, this made lol so hard. > *Originally posted by **[Redd500](/forums/143/topics/262627?page=1#posts-5659524):*** > > Putting content that you must pay for in a multiplayer game and then making that content give players an advantage in PvP creates unbalance. That’s why I don’t like it. And what PVP advantage are we talking about? Refilling energy? Action? Resetting skill points? That’s going to help me so much in an actual battle. No, the ‘money’ factor just helps get people further in the game faster. It doesn’t give any massive, unbeatable advantages in a direct battle. What? > *Originally posted by **[hooverboy](/forums/143/topics/262627?page=1#posts-5661368):*** > > *Originally posted by **[revstevil](/forums/143/topics/262627?page=1#posts-5659281):*** > > > > You are not “getting” it. I have no problem with a developer wanting to get something back. I have a problem doing it at a FREE site. I get how labor intensive it is, and how much goes into making these games. Feel free to sell them. Just not at a FREE site. Get it? > > they should have it like it is in rotmg. the buyable stuff isnt required or needed and it doesnt give players any advantages(with the exception of vaults and char slots) but the makers of rotmg still make money, but a game that requires you to pay money to be good is lame. Where are people getting the idea that buying anything in this game suddenly makes you unbeatable or something?

Cheats should be punished, and grats to the developer on a great game…only criticism is the delay getting the new content out!

> *Originally posted by **[Raddok](/forums/143/topics/262627?page=1#posts-5669351):*** > > *Originally posted by **[revstevil](/forums/143/topics/262627?page=1#posts-5659281):*** > > > > You are not “getting” it. I have no problem with a developer wanting to get something back. I have a problem doing it at a FREE site. I get how labor intensive it is, and how much goes into making these games. Feel free to sell them. Just not at a FREE site. Get it? > > This entire post is completely stupid. Kongregate itself even promotes purchasable shit (Kong Plus, Kreds) on its own website, so maybe you should be boycotting the entirety of Kongregate if this is in fact your problem, or at least bitch directly to them as well as the other dozens of game devs selling their games on this site. My god, this made lol so hard. > > > *Originally posted by **[Redd500](/forums/143/topics/262627?page=1#posts-5659524):*** > > > > Putting content that you must pay for in a multiplayer game and then making that content give players an advantage in PvP creates unbalance. That’s why I don’t like it. > > And what PVP advantage are we talking about? Refilling energy? Action? Resetting skill points? That’s going to help me so much in an actual battle. > > No, the ‘money’ factor just helps get people further in the game faster. It doesn’t give any massive, unbeatable advantages in a direct battle. What? > > > *Originally posted by **[hooverboy](/forums/143/topics/262627?page=1#posts-5661368):*** > > > *Originally posted by **[revstevil](/forums/143/topics/262627?page=1#posts-5659281):*** > > > > > > You are not “getting” it. I have no problem with a developer wanting to get something back. I have a problem doing it at a FREE site. I get how labor intensive it is, and how much goes into making these games. Feel free to sell them. Just not at a FREE site. Get it? > > > > they should have it like it is in rotmg. the buyable stuff isnt required or needed and it doesnt give players any advantages(with the exception of vaults and char slots) but the makers of rotmg still make money, but a game that requires you to pay money to be good is lame. > > Where are people getting the idea that buying anything in this game suddenly makes you unbeatable or something? I was talking about the items and units you can only get with gems. They provide stats to the player when in battle. You can also just buy the things you can get in the blacksmith with real money instead of grinding. In the case of the last one you can argue you’re just buying a convenience of not having to grind, but the grind gives amazing items and the player is basically buying quick power without having to put in effort.

What makes me lol is this: 1) Almost all the material items in the market which are worth crystals are collectible through quests 2) As the developer said in another thread out of the top 10 elite players in this game only 1 is a kred user 3) When i played the game i got all the way up to chapter 4 and beat it without using a single crystal, i even beat kred users in pvp. 4) You get crystals when you earn achievements, i calculated alittle over 2000 crystals are obtainable. 5) Most of the best equips are either the craftable ones or the ones u get from achievements, so stop crying and start killing. 6) Theres a total of 4, YES 4, units that you cannot get without purchasing crystals. The rest are gold or craftable Im on the Developers side all the way and i even salute him because he/she didnt have to add crystal rewards, a mini contest with crystal prizes or even this game infact, but he/she did. So stop sulking and play or gtfo enuf of these dam posts about money.

I am a \*\*\*\*ing French and French are well known for their Haughty or Narcicist, but I think EXACTLY like FistFromHell.

It’s mostly the fact you can get the powerful craftable items simply by paying money and bypassing playing the game. While I will say that doesn’t create as much of an unbalance as I made it out to be, because you can earn it, it does still mean you can just spend money and be just as powerful as those who earned it. I’m gonna drop this link to a video where they talk about the best ways to go about doing microtransactions: [http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/microtransactions](http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/microtransactions) The developer here has done many things right with it such as being able to earn the premium cash through achievements and daily bonuses and selling convenience, but the whole “spend money and be instantly powerful” isn’t the best idea.

As Redd said, the fact of the matter is that there are some ridiculous items in the game that REQUIRE (not craftable by any means) crystals. That, or they’re craftable only with items that REQUIRE crystals. For example, the insanely powerful Galaxy Sword/Blade. It costs 300 dollars. Three hundred American dollars. Five dollars? Maybe. 20 dollars? Now you’re getting pretty greedy. But 300 dollars? Are you out of your mind?

> *Originally posted by **[FistFromHell](/forums/143/topics/262627?page=1#posts-5670615):*** > > What makes me lol is this: > > 1) Almost all the material items in the market which are worth crystals are collectible through quests > 2) As the developer said in another thread out of the top 10 elite players in this game only 1 is a kred user > 3) When i played the game i got all the way up to chapter 4 and beat it without using a single crystal, i even beat kred users in pvp. > 4) You get crystals when you earn achievements, i calculated alittle over 2000 crystals are obtainable. > 5) Most of the best equips are either the craftable ones or the ones u get from achievements, so stop crying and start killing. > 6) Theres a total of 4, YES 4, units that you cannot get without purchasing crystals. The rest are gold or craftable > > Im on the Developers side all the way and i even salute him because he/she didnt have to add crystal rewards, a mini contest with crystal prizes or even this game infact, but he/she did. So stop sulking and play or gtfo enuf of these dam posts about money. Huge QFT. > *Originally posted by **[Timmeh7o7](/forums/143/topics/262627?page=1#posts-5672087):*** > > As Redd said, the fact of the matter is that there are some ridiculous items in the game that REQUIRE (not craftable by any means) crystals. That, or they’re craftable only with items that REQUIRE crystals. For example, the insanely powerful Galaxy Sword/Blade. It costs 300 dollars. Three hundred American dollars. Five dollars? Maybe. 20 dollars? Now you’re getting pretty greedy. But 300 dollars? Are you out of your mind? LOL, you had the exactly same reaction when I figured out that sword costs $300. But I guess they priced too high on purpose. The game is still on beta test and wouldn’t be pleasant to see many users with too powerful swords for now. Probably they’ll price down (the crystals) in the future.

I dont know what you guys are so mad about but honestly, Developer. Are you greedy enough (yes i realise the game is in beta) to make it cost $300 for one sword. Now. Like Timmeh said. The fact that it costs $300 makes you seem out of your mind… But you have a point. Insanely powerful players in the beta is not going to help anyone be better. > *Originally posted by **[Timmeh7o7](/forums/143/topics/262627?page=1#posts-5672087):*** > > As Redd said, the fact of the matter is that there are some ridiculous items in the game that REQUIRE (not craftable by any means) crystals. That, or they’re craftable only with items that REQUIRE crystals. For example, the insanely powerful Galaxy Sword/Blade. It costs 300 dollars. Three hundred American dollars. Five dollars? Maybe. 20 dollars? Now you’re getting pretty greedy. But 300 dollars? Are you out of your mind? Most definatly agreed on Timmeh.

Honestly I’m not bothered by the money as much as how grindy this game is. I got to the start of chapter four and found the game to get absolutely unplayable. I love the series, but this addition just wasn’t very fun. so to respond to the person saying that if i don’t like the game, don’t play it, I won’t. I gave it a chance, and i was really excited for the game when it first came out because I love the series, but the developer and game have really put me off.

You have a point with the items being so overpriced because of the beta, but you still have to think, why even put those items in the beta in the first place if they don’t want them to screw things up? I’ll tell you exactly why – because they know that there are people out there who are either stupid or insanely competitive enough to actually pay that amount anyway. And you know, if that’s the case, I say go for it. Someone who would pay that much for something like that is just begging to be taken advantage of. Other than that, though, I definitely agree that the game is WAY too grind-heavy. The least they could do is vary the opponents, I mean who the hell wants to fight Grullborg Grimtooth 5 or 6 times in a row to complete a single quest and only gain ONE level for it? Not me, that’s for sure.

im in dev sides seriously uts THEIR fualt for buying you guys didnt anyway the game updates is fast about 1-2 time a day(O.o)its much and i like it :D but you say greedy hmmm i dont the devs do 6 good game(epic quest too :D)for free and just one normal-like multiplayer you guys go and rage while other games thats crazier just got no shout like this hmmm idk what to say now

Like Suterla said, the developer has released 5 or 6 games that were completely free in their entirety, I’m betting 9 out of 10 people here loved every single one, but NOW you’re whining because he just wants a little something back? Because he offers the option to purchase some premium features in this last game so he can make a little cash after all that time he spent building this series? Call him greedy, but I think it’s other people that are being brats about this.

well i don’t know why people even complain about these things cuz they play it then complain about it then says it’s retarted then they play it again becuz new lvls and new units unlocked so must play it even you hate it because u like epic war i admit it’s not like epic war but it’s like an mmo so i have played alot of mmo can say the devs are not greeedy and first of all why are u even bothering about players who payed and got buffed a little becuz they didn’t brag about it not even become pain in your butt but u want to fight them u wanna crush them becuz they just got far from u without effort that’s big enough reason to complain and call the devs greedy for just a game man you must be high sayin all this shit so i don’t wanna something more becuz now they will blasts more stupid points but i agree to some of them and i highly sayin you can s\*ck on that points which are not right and abusive