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> *Originally posted by **[bogan_69](/forums/1042299/topics/1818692?page=3#13130937)**:*
> I still can't get my DPS to hit anything when he's in front, but if i move him back, he works again.
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> However, he's got a healing issue now...
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> only on a crit hit (i think?), he heals for -ve dmg, killing himself instantly.
> the weird bit is, he stays in my formation, wandering round with not hitpoints, still hitting things.
> then he hits, heals, and ressurects himself! (rising from the ashes, like a good pheonix would)
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Negative heal bug w/ vampire should be fixed in v1.0.27, let me know if you see it again.
> *Originally posted by **[bogan_69](/forums/1042299/topics/1818692?page=3#13133276)**:*
> After new update, my leader (also fastest) still doesn't attack as he should.
> I would expect atleast 1 attack in every mob of 5 correct?
> It's more like 1 in 5 mobs, i.e. 25 monsters...
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> Also, crit obviously doesn't calculate multiplicatively.
> 3x lvl20 and 1x lvl 11 spotter, plus lvl20 focus on my main, and he won't crit all the time.
> Is there a cap or is spooter only addative?
I will check out your save, but one thing I'm aware of is a 1 frame delay in the attack of the leader, so if the speed is very close to your next fastest character then you might see them attack first instead. Will fix.
Crit is multplicative and I don't see a cap atm so I do think you should always crit with that setup (assuming everyone is alive.) I'll look at it, but I'll note also that damage visuals are sometimes merged, so each attack isn't always associated 1-1 with a visible damage value above an enemy's head.
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Cool, thanks Purple!
Feedback would be great once you've had a look.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52r7q_SUfnI
The demon king has piercing lvl20 and he is killed with a 13M hit wich is deffenetly him being lobotomized. I was just doing a random check on duke to see how heals work now (only healing aura healing bcs of the patch now and speed), but the problem came when i saw that hit into my demon king i realized i was actually healing enough & something else was killing me, myself.
EDIT: Explained, lobo its me hiting myself so piercing doesnt work, still i think it should as what piercing stands to be but well :)
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Thanks Purple! Unfortunately, based on my previous phoenix build and what I've seen of bogan's build, Spotter and Focus clearly don't seem to stack multiplicatively as it sounds like you intended. Even with theoretical 100% crit rate with 5x Spotters + Focus, crits are still fairly rare. Bogan found the same thing with 4x Spotter + Focus: crits are not even common, let alone 100%. Would be great if this could be fixed as Spotter is one of the rarest traits in game, doesn't have any monsters with its core, and they really are not that useful unless they stack multiplicatively like the other traits.
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> *Originally posted by **[bogan_69](/forums/1042299/topics/1818692?page=4#13133315)**:*
> Cool, thanks Purple!
> Feedback would be great once you've had a look.
Loaded your team yesterday and spent 2 days making it work perfectly by examing video frame by frame 0.o Ended up having to change a lot of really delicate stuff to get it all to line up. If your characters were so similar in speed that their attacks would happen in the same frame, the order they occured in would be random, but now it should be right. Also fixed Spotter, it wasn't stacking correctly. Check out v1.0.28.
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Looks great man, thank you for all the hard work!
My build works, yay!
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> *Originally posted by **[Jota55](/forums/1042299/topics/1818692?page=4#13134223)**:*
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52r7q_SUfnI
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> The demon king has piercing lvl20 and he is killed with a 13M hit wich is deffenetly him being lobotomized. I was just doing a random check on duke to see how heals work now (only healing aura healing bcs of the patch now and speed), but the problem came when i saw that hit into my demon king i realized i was actually healing enough & something else was killing me, myself.
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> EDIT: Explained, lobo its me hiting myself so piercing doesnt work, still i think it should as what piercing stands to be but well :)
While piercing serves as a counter for Weasel/Deflect, I think it countering Lobo/Mesmerize self-damage would be a little too much. Right now there's no great trait-based counter to self-damage, aside from balancing your team comp, and Mermaid's core. I'm open to a learnable counter, just haven't thought of one yet. For Mesmerize, aside from a Mermaid tank, you can counter with a high def/low atk tank, and put your high spd/high atk DPS somewhere behind them.
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Is offline formation dicovery working?
I've been sitting on 98/100 formations for over a week now, with very little (a few hours total) online time...
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Yes, I've found quite a few offline formations ranging from basic to complex.
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so i have this team
and i just bought a strong looking guy
But as soon as i replace him with any other member of the team, they perform incredibly bad... It seems like they cant even get to half to where they get withouth him... Why is that? is it maybe a problem because of glass cannon? But hes not being targetet ( he is in middle..), and the tank in front row dies so fast...
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Might be reflect combined with glass cannon is killing you. Also, based on the color of the background looks like you are in area 2 where his ability doesn't work. Wendigo only really works in areas 1 and 4 since it only triggers against undead and beasts.
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right after boss stage, i usually get hit first on the next map, looks like attack initiative not resetting
i think similarly for outpost too
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Enemies now have a trait called "Phase Shift" which allows them to go first even if you have higher speed. It is a fairly common trait and I suspect that explains why you got hit after the boss stage. I have not noticed any changes in attack initiative after bosses or outposts.
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Achievements seem a bit bugged. I've completed all of them except the complete 100 quests one. And it only shows 94/100 since I have 4/5 of the "complete quests" quests with the the 5th one being complete 100. At first, I thought it required dailies to get to 100, but I've done hundreds of dailies when farming formations and those didn't count towards the quest either. It looks like it would need 2 more sets of 5 quests or at least 1 more 5 quest set and one set with at least 1 quest to get to 100 total for that quest. Also, the highlighting of the quests seem a bit off - some are dark green as if not complete yet and others are light green.
Here are some screenshots:
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> *Originally posted by **[Meissner_Effect](/forums/1042299/topics/1818692?page=4#13142833)**:*
> Also, the highlighting of the quests seem a bit off - some are dark green as if not complete yet and others are light green.
There is a set of quests that have a darker shade( since beta at least), if you wait a bit you see shimmer and *ting* on them. I interpret that as higher rarity quests, they also give out comparitivly more gems.
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If you switch teams during map transition, then your team ends up surrounded by enemies.
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Those are not bugs as far as I can tell. Glass cannon causes just the monster with it equipped to take more damage based on my testing of it. Healer doesn't heal unless it is faster than the dps that kills enemies since it needs to attack to heal. No need to spend gems on trait removal since you can farm blank masters for free in game.
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Game froze for seemingly no reason. All enemies have been killed. The message "Stuck? Do you want to go home?" pops up. And my team just continues standing in the same spot not moving. This has never happened to me before - so I suspect it might have something to do with the recent update. At first I thought the game might have thought I was at the Home Base, but the message popping up suggests otherwise. Here is a screenshot:
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The freezing has happened multiple times since I reported it and it always seems to happen when my main team dies and my backup team joins the battle. It is almost like when the new team joins the battle it doesn't register it as actually joining the battle and they just sit there.
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> *Originally posted by **[bogan_69](/forums/1042299/topics/1818692?page=4#13139954)**:*
> Is offline formation dicovery working?
> I've been sitting on 98/100 formations for over a week now, with very little (a few hours total) online time...
A week later and i'm still on 98/100. Add to that i've use atleast 10 time warps as well.
Surely i'm not *that* unlucky?
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Well, I did get 100/100 formations and 2 of the complex formations were from offline discovery when using something around 50-100 time warps. The drop rate is just super low - but they do drop.
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> *Originally posted by **[theyaron9on9](/forums/1042299/topics/1818692?page=4#13141893)**:*
> right after boss stage, i usually get hit first on the next map, looks like attack initiative not resetting
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> i think similarly for outpost too
actually it's my second quickest monster always attacks first but not enemy after boss/outpost, so pretty sure something is off
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> *Originally posted by **[bogan_69](/forums/1042299/topics/1818692?page=4#13145270)**:*
> > *Originally posted by **[bogan_69](/forums/1042299/topics/1818692?page=4#13139954)**:*
> > Is offline formation dicovery working?
> > I've been sitting on 98/100 formations for over a week now, with very little (a few hours total) online time...
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> A week later and i'm still on 98/100. Add to that i've use atleast 10 time warps as well.
> Surely i'm not *that* unlucky?
still on 98/100 after blowing enough time warps to do 98 formations in a few days...
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