> *Originally posted by **[mokambe](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=2#posts-3949330):*** > > If I were IFS, I’d apologize to Pescado and rest of the members of CO for ganging them to death. Accept my punishment, and shut up on forums.That’d be the smart move, to disperse and never draw flak again, but for some reason, they can’t seem to resist name-calling, which puts you back on the shitlist. Just look at the recent X-Com kafuffle. To us, at the time, they were just a random faction, like the many random factions who attack us from time to time, that we fight, win or lose, and then forget about, because we’re on a mission and the activities of randoms are, well, irrelevant. I mean, there’s lots of them, we run into the same familiar faces, but we run into them at random. Then the X-Commers go and post a thread indicating that it’s Them. Guess who gets to be on the list?

This whole thread, and the situation that started it are maybe the most clownish things I’ve seen all week. The petty vanity, the ridiculous posturing, the insane bullying, but most of all the preening people who collude to gang up on a faction. If there’s one thing we learn from this it’s how sad it is that so many people can be bought by the promise of productive “players” given to their team. If I can help it, I will never associate with a player or faction who knowingly participates in one of these battles. I will keep my faction out of it if at all possible. And I hope all of you do the same. This is just monstrously silly.

> *Originally posted by **[PescadoJM](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949502):*** > > *Originally posted by **[mokambe](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=2#posts-3949330):*** > > > > If I were IFS, I’d apologize to Pescado and rest of the members of CO for ganging them to death. Accept my punishment, and shut up on forums.That’d be the smart move, to disperse and never draw flak again, but for some reason, they can’t seem to resist name-calling, which puts you back on the shitlist. Just look at the recent X-Com kafuffle. To us, at the time, they were just a random faction, like the many random factions who attack us from time to time, that we fight, win or lose, and then forget about, because we’re on a mission and the activities of randoms are, well, irrelevant. I mean, there’s lots of them, we run into the same familiar faces, but we run into them at random. > > Then the X-Commers go and post a thread indicating that it’s Them. Guess who gets to be on the list? If i may ask, how long is your “shitlist”. Coz once this is over (meaning your enemies give up or devs do something), do you have more people on this list that you will move on to? Or will you never stop, but actually non-discriminately choose a faction to pulverize?

I guess that is what happens whenever you piss off somebody that knowingly bots. Best just keep your mouth shut next time. That’s all I’m going to say.

> *Originally posted by **[fishboner1234](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949483):*** > > Yea losing that much in 24 hours is hard. But seriously taking to the forums to QQ about it. Man up. I love how people are forgetting how this started. The same was done to CO and what did we do. We actually put up a dam good fight back winning most of our wars at first. What we didnt do; take our QQ to the forums begging the devs for help. It’s pathetic when people are playing a war game and cant take the exact thing they did to other people. Lol, of course you didn’t since you didn’t play according to the ToS…like running to the police when ouyr crack got stolen. And Pesc, you are a little ignorant selfrighteous bugger, the alliance only wanted to pull you back down and take the lead you gained through botting, you just quit pretty fast…and in return now you completely destroy factions and drive people out of the game. Just pathetic.

> *Originally posted by **[realms92](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949644):*** > > *Originally posted by **[PescadoJM](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949502):*** > > > *Originally posted by **[mokambe](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=2#posts-3949330):*** > > > > > > If I were IFS, I’d apologize to Pescado and rest of the members of CO for ganging them to death. Accept my punishment, and shut up on forums.That’d be the smart move, to disperse and never draw flak again, but for some reason, they can’t seem to resist name-calling, which puts you back on the shitlist. Just look at the recent X-Com kafuffle. To us, at the time, they were just a random faction, like the many random factions who attack us from time to time, that we fight, win or lose, and then forget about, because we’re on a mission and the activities of randoms are, well, irrelevant. I mean, there’s lots of them, we run into the same familiar faces, but we run into them at random. > > > > Then the X-Commers go and post a thread indicating that it’s Them. Guess who gets to be on the list? > > If i may ask, how long is your “shitlist”. Coz once this is over (meaning your enemies give up or devs do something), do you have more people on this list that you will move on to? Or will you never stop, but actually non-discriminately choose a faction to pulverize? One step at a time, little grasshopper. We are hoping that kfsw sticks around for a long long time to keep things entertaining ;)

> *Originally posted by **[fishboner1234](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949483):*** > > Yea losing that much in 24 hours is hard. But seriously taking to the forums to QQ about it. Man up. I love how people are forgetting how this started. The same was done to CO and what did we do. We actually put up a dam good fight back winning most of our wars at first. What we didnt do; take our QQ to the forums begging the devs for help. It’s pathetic when people are playing a war game and cant take the exact thing they did to other people. Personally, I was not even involved in faction wars when CO was gawked. Thankfully I have never been in either side of something like this. So I am, as most tyrant players are, totally neutral in all these shenanigans. But I am convinced that, like me, most outsiders are not happy with the possibility. It shouldn’t have happened to you, and it shouldn’t be happening now. Currently the game mechanics allow players to be griefed to the point of pure hatred (as seems to be the case with former CO members in this thread) or of quitting the game (as the OP seems to be doing, and I assume other CO members did as well). I don’t think anyone is asking the devs to fix the past, and they are unlikely to ever restore the standing of CO/IFS or any other faction that was taken down like this. But it is worth pointing out to them that if the game design allows this to happen, it is very bad business for them because it erodes the player base: less players = less dollars.

I feel as though the ONLY way to stop this vicious cycle of ganging, is to lower the number of possible defense wars to 2.

Factions could also form alliances.

> *Originally posted by **[realms92](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949985):*** > > I feel as though the ONLY way to stop this vicious cycle of ganging, is to lower the number of possible defense wars to 2. QFT, would really put a stop to all this nonsense.

well at least it is totally obvious which factions are using some kind of automized opponent-finding… I’ve been searching for more than 10 minutes to get a specific opponent and stopped looking after. It is simply ridiculous that it is gamewise possible that one single faction is gangbanged by a hand of others! As well as almost everyone playing Tyrant for more than a month knows that within these (and other) factions are accounts that belong to people that do not follow the ToS (or obey them…) good night Tyrant here and everywhere else if this is tolerated

I’m so tired of this shit. I’m forming a faction called: **Staminafarmerfarmers** You can all retire and join me there. We’ll farm Staminafarmers and BO. Casual, casual. lazy ass players will do. Sign up here.

> *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949839):*** > > *Originally posted by **[fishboner1234](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949483):*** > > > > Yea losing that much in 24 hours is hard. But seriously taking to the forums to QQ about it. Man up. I love how people are forgetting how this started. The same was done to CO and what did we do. We actually put up a dam good fight back winning most of our wars at first. What we didnt do; take our QQ to the forums begging the devs for help. It’s pathetic when people are playing a war game and cant take the exact thing they did to other people. > > Lol, of course you didn’t since you didn’t play according to the ToS…like running to the police when ouyr crack got stolen. > > And Pesc, you are a little ignorant selfrighteous bugger, the alliance only wanted to pull you back down and take the lead you gained through botting, you just quit pretty fast…and in return now you completely destroy factions and drive people out of the game. Just pathetic. Unless someone can build an offense deck that can even win on auto surge, else I don’t think those accounts having their “revenge” are bots. If you can really build such a deck, do you mind sharing with the masses a deck that can at least win over 80-90% on auto fight ? even against the top 10 factions perhaps?

> *Originally posted by **[Z\_\_Y](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3950018):*** > > *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949839):*** > > > *Originally posted by **[fishboner1234](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949483):*** > > > > > > Yea losing that much in 24 hours is hard. But seriously taking to the forums to QQ about it. Man up. I love how people are forgetting how this started. The same was done to CO and what did we do. We actually put up a dam good fight back winning most of our wars at first. What we didnt do; take our QQ to the forums begging the devs for help. It’s pathetic when people are playing a war game and cant take the exact thing they did to other people. > > > > Lol, of course you didn’t since you didn’t play according to the ToS…like running to the police when ouyr crack got stolen. > > > > And Pesc, you are a little ignorant selfrighteous bugger, the alliance only wanted to pull you back down and take the lead you gained through botting, you just quit pretty fast…and in return now you completely destroy factions and drive people out of the game. Just pathetic. > > Unless someone can build an offense deck that can even win on auto surge, > else I don’t think those accounts having their “revenge” are bots. > > If you can really build such a deck, do you mind sharing with the masses a deck > that can at least win over 80-90% on auto fight ? even against the top 10 factions perhaps? Well, there are bots/ alts out there used for a specific goal (within ALL of these and other factions)! In this matter the use was to declare simultanous wars for a period of more than 24h against the same faction. Therefore even the ToS are violated. Just the fact that the devs are not able to ban the couple of persons totally. Anyhow the solution is not to have a cap of defense wars a faction could have a day… The solution is to prevent factions from farming, making it impossible to declare a war against the same faction more than 3 times a week.

What about the people in factions who are getting gangbanged who had nothing to do with the previous drama between CO and the alliance? I guess too bad so sad for them…

> *Originally posted by **[PescadoJM](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=1#posts-3949018):*** > > *Originally posted by **[Beefhouse3D](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=1#posts-3948847):*** > > > > I am super impressed with how well the actual bots fight though. Sincere kudos to Pescado on that entirely outside of anything else. > > We fight well because we aren’t bots. This is why we continue to fight well, we continue to surge you, and we STILL HATE YOU. > > Maybe you have forgotten that it was YOUR side that started this, but we will never forget, and we will never forgive. Maybe you thought we had forgotten you when you escaped over a level? I don’t think so. Never forget, never forgive. ^^ drama queen… really i just dont understand how can someone live with so much hate for something that happend like 2000 years ago, to the point that becomes your obsession what are you…5? try to act a little like your age anyways, i belong to a faction that attacked you, war metal alchemists, but i really dont mind you attacking, just wanted to say, that the very reason that you are attacking my faction has left last month so, who are you acting your revenge on? a bunch of players that dont know whats going on? srly get help…

Wow man, half a page and I remember why I quit this game. Bitch please.

This is why I’m no longer Faction warring. I may return once the top 10 or so are all at maximum level.

if thats possible, it sucks bad. Synapticon should really do something. more and more people will quit if he doesnt

> *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949839):*** > > Lol, of course you didn’t since you didn’t play according to the ToS…like running to the police when ouyr crack got stolen. I’m actually starting to question whether CO did bot after the ToS was put up. All the “evidence” I’ve seen on forums are a bunch of screenies (with numbers) and a whole lot more people saying CO botted rather than CO did not. So I guess democracy makes opinions fact? I don’t know. Is there any concrete evidence? Or is it just a bunch of people jumping onto a bunch of other people’s conclusions that CO botted?

> *Originally posted by **[LightburneR](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3950394):*** > > *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949839):*** > > > > Lol, of course you didn’t since you didn’t play according to the ToS…like running to the police when ouyr crack got stolen. > > I’m actually starting to question whether CO did bot after the ToS was put up. > > All the “evidence” I’ve seen on forums are a bunch of screenies (with numbers) and a whole lot more people saying CO botted rather than CO did not. > > So I guess democracy makes opinions fact? I don’t know. Is there any concrete evidence? Or is it just a bunch of people jumping onto a bunch of other people’s conclusions that CO botted? Inorix had/has proof of botting, like extremely regular activity times (24/7), very similar scores etc etc. Remeber he’s banned as well for “hacking” the game to get this information. > *Originally posted by **[Saketsu](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949991):*** > > Factions could also form alliances. People did, but you can’t counter a bot army that is “playing” 24/7 and overrunning your faction/alliance with a mutiple of factions/players.

> *Originally posted by **[ladolcevita](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3950017):*** > > I’m so tired of this shit. I’m forming a faction called: **Staminafarmerfarmers** > > You can all retire and join me there. We’ll farm Staminafarmers and BO. > > Casual, casual. lazy ass players will do. Sign up here. Wow, glad I checked this thread, I thought we’d been behaving ourselves lately. What did we do this time, and what’s it got to do with your faction being targeted by Pescado’s non-consensual physical appreciation train?

^ he’s joking lol. he havent been targeted

having limit on defensive wars a day will cause more abuse main faction alt factions alt factions declare on main, and lose on purpose, that’s 10 attacks…