> *Originally posted by **[Shadowhopeful](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=4#posts-3952389):*** > > *Originally posted by **[BirdSpirit](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=4#posts-3952375):*** > > > *Originally posted by **[theeboat](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=4#posts-3952039):*** > > > > > > maybe you should think about getting decent members and good decks? > > > > This doesn’t really have anything to do with the topic at hand. :P > > This has quite a bt to do with it. With good decks, you can practically shrug off most of the defensive wars and concentrate on making sure you lead on every war. Part of that is true, but you cannot defend against every off deck there is. And with that number of factions attacking you, its practically impossible to lead on every war (unless maybe you’re a bot).

> *Originally posted by **[BirdSpirit](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952405):*** > > *Originally posted by **[Shadowhopeful](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=4#posts-3952389):*** > > > *Originally posted by **[BirdSpirit](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=4#posts-3952375):*** > > > > *Originally posted by **[theeboat](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=4#posts-3952039):*** > > > > > > > > maybe you should think about getting decent members and good decks? > > > > > > This doesn’t really have anything to do with the topic at hand. :P > > > > This has quite a bt to do with it. With good decks, you can practically shrug off most of the defensive wars and concentrate on making sure you lead on every war. > > Part of that is true, but you cannot defend against every off deck there is. And with that number of factions attacking you, its practically impossible to lead on every war (unless maybe you’re a bot). Note I said most. If they can win half of them, or at least enough to balance out the losses, the whole thing becomes a test of endurance.

> *Originally posted by **[PescadoJM](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952392):*** > > *Originally posted by **[BirdSpirit](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=4#posts-3952375):*** > > > > He’s been proven to bot and loves to bully others. > > Pssh. Horseshit. Those were exactly the same baseless accusations and I was cleared there, too. > > > > *Originally posted by **[Shadowhopeful](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=4#posts-3952389):*** > > > > This has quite a bt to do with it. With good decks, you can practically shrug off most of the defensive wars and concentrate on making sure you lead on every war.Ah, if only we still had def first. You actually had to THINK to play that, so only paranoid conspiracy theorists were still beating the “bot” drum…and we were still winning. Those were good times. Your insistence on those accusations being false is complete bullshit. We proved it there. It has been proven here as well. The only reason why you weren’t banned is the inability of the devs. > *Originally posted by **[Shadowhopeful](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952409):*** > > Note I said most. If they can win half of them, or at least enough to balance out the losses, the whole thing becomes a test of endurance. How many points will winning those defenses give you though? Perhaps in normal circumstance of 10 this would be possible. The thought of defending and winning against at least half of those factions on that list is daunting.

> *Originally posted by **[BirdSpirit](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952405):*** > > Your insistence on those accusations being false is complete bullshit. We proved it there. It has been proven here as well.No, no it hasn’t. In fact, each and every single one of the people who has claimed to have brought forth so-called “evidence” has been completely discredited as being a liar, scammer, or cheater. The only thing they’ve ever proven is that I have no life. Of course, I admit that one freely.> *Originally posted by **[BirdSpirit](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952410):*** > > How many points will winning those defenses give you though? Perhaps in normal circumstance of 10 this would be possible. The thought of defending and winning against at least half of those factions on that list is daunting.If you knew what was actually going on, you’d realize how hilarious it is. Think about it from the numbers perspective and you’ll realize just how sad these guys are.

 Pretty much sums this whole thread up

> *Originally posted by **[FocusedUnity](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=1#posts-3948490):*** > > Put a cap on how many times a Faction can be attacked in one day. 10 is acceptable, 48 is retarted. As for me, I don’t plan on playing this game for another month to make up for what we just lost. I just realised that we shouldn’t even bother arguing if the guy has just given up already.

> *Originally posted by **[PescadoJM](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952429):*** > No, no it hasn’t. In fact, each and every single one of the people who has claimed to have brought forth so-called “evidence” has been completely discredited as being a liar, scammer, or cheater. The only thing they’ve ever proven is that I have no life. Of course, I admit that one freely. I consent to the fact that there are perhaps some liars that would throw accusations around without proper reason. I have not had enough experience here, but from what I have looked at, evidence provided is ample, and the ones that provide all this evidence are too numerous. We know that you know how to hack, program and whatnot. You’re actions are well proving that you are doing it here. Speaking solely for CF, Holycorpse is not a liar, scammer, or cheater. > *Originally posted by **[PescadoJM](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952429):*** > If you knew what was actually going on, you’d realize how hilarious it is. Think about it from the numbers perspective and you’ll realize just how sad these guys are. The only sad thing I see is that a faction got gangbanged by 46 others. My point here is to prove how ridiculous it is to allow an unlimited number of factions to attack a single one in the span of a day. A believe that the actions taken against CO were unfair as well, but that just goes further to prove my point.

> *Originally posted by **[Shadowhopeful](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952451):*** > > *Originally posted by **[FocusedUnity](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=1#posts-3948490):*** > > > > Put a cap on how many times a Faction can be attacked in one day. 10 is acceptable, 48 is retarted. As for me, I don’t plan on playing this game for another month to make up for what we just lost. > > I just realised that we shouldn’t even bother arguing if the guy has just given up already. If he’s given up, then there’s nothing we can do. We can, however, try to prevent this from happening in the future again.

> *Originally posted by **[PescadoJM](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952429):*** > > *Originally posted by **[BirdSpirit](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952405):*** > > > > Your insistence on those accusations being false is complete bullshit. We proved it there. It has been proven here as well.No, no it hasn’t. In fact, each and every single one of the people who has claimed to have brought forth so-called “evidence” has been completely discredited as being a liar, scammer, or cheater. The only thing they’ve ever proven is that I have no life. Of course, I admit that one freely. Hi there, I was in CO. while I was there I could have my energy and stamina spent by a system you were in charge to handle that didn’t require my presence or activity at all. what now? just stop annoying people Pesc, some of the ones who compensate lack of life with gaming like to be in a happy communnity :P

> *Originally posted by **[Crusader32](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952438):*** > >  > > Pretty much sums this whole thread up Nice summary. > *Originally posted by **[Caad](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952503):*** > > *Originally posted by **[PescadoJM](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952429):*** > > > *Originally posted by **[BirdSpirit](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952405):*** > > > > > > Your insistence on those accusations being false is complete bullshit. We proved it there. It has been proven here as well.No, no it hasn’t. In fact, each and every single one of the people who has claimed to have brought forth so-called “evidence” has been completely discredited as being a liar, scammer, or cheater. The only thing they’ve ever proven is that I have no life. Of course, I admit that one freely. > > Hi there, I was in CO. while I was there I could have my energy and stamina spent by a system you were in charge to handle that didn’t require my presence or activity at all. > > what now? > > just stop annoying people Pesc, some of the ones who compensate lack of life with gaming like to be in a happy communnity :P I would call that botting.

> *Originally posted by **[Caad](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952503):*** > > *Originally posted by **[PescadoJM](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952429):*** > > > *Originally posted by **[BirdSpirit](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952405):*** > > > > > > Your insistence on those accusations being false is complete bullshit. We proved it there. It has been proven here as well.No, no it hasn’t. In fact, each and every single one of the people who has claimed to have brought forth so-called “evidence” has been completely discredited as being a liar, scammer, or cheater. The only thing they’ve ever proven is that I have no life. Of course, I admit that one freely. > > Hi there, I was in CO. while I was there I could have my energy and stamina spent by a system you were in charge to handle that didn’t require my presence or activity at all. > > what now? > > just stop annoying people Pesc, some of the ones who compensate lack of life with gaming like to be in a happy communnity :P Great now provide us with a SS so that we can have more evidence and an add it to the mountain of the evidence that exists already.

> *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949839):*** > > And Pesc, you are a little ignorant selfrighteous bugger, the alliance only wanted to pull you back down and take the lead you gained through botting, you just quit pretty fast…and in return now you completely destroy factions and drive people out of the game. Just pathetic. I totally love how this particular argument keeps popping up. The best BS one can come up with. Pesc only wants to pull people back down the same way they “pulled back down” CO, those people just go all crybaby and quit pretty fast. None of them even remotely approach the 2 days of holding up to this very breed of “pulling back down” as CO did. Yoo-hoo to double standarts. Keep it coming.

I personally find it funny how people bitch about the same thing that they do to others and expect karma not to show it’s ugly face. Shouldn’t throw rocks if you live in a glass house.

> *Originally posted by **[jaedaprince](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952985):*** > > I personally find it funny how people bitch about the same thing that they do to others and expect karma not to show it’s ugly face. Shouldn’t throw rocks if you live in a glass house. I personally find it funny how you started doing the same kind of ganging as alliance did despite alliance never ever attacking your faction. While Pescado at least has some kind of justification for what he is doing, what’s your excuse? Also, I believe that you are now waiting for karma to hit you soon, right?

> *Originally posted by **[Caad](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952503):*** > > Hi there, I was in CO. while I was there I could have my energy and stamina spent by a system you were in charge to handle that didn’t require my presence or activity at all. > > what now? > > just stop annoying people Pesc, some of the ones who compensate lack of life with gaming like to be in a happy communnity :P I wonder what the holy protectors of Pescado want to say about this. SolaceAvatar, Hotshot2k4 where are you?

If that’s true, I hope he gets banned. :P

I sure hope Synapticon is listening. He’ll be listening to a lot of us now or just a very few of us later, it’s really up to him. Seriously now, we are being attacked by four factions at once, why? Because it’s gang warfare. Go ahead and add new content, but if you don’t fix what’s here, well, whatever.

> *Originally posted by **[jaedaprince](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952985):*** > > I personally find it funny how people bitch about the same thing that they do to others and expect karma not to show it’s ugly face. Shouldn’t throw rocks if you live in a glass house. Shouldn’t be stupid enough to live in a glass house. A wooden construct would be much more durable and require less maintanence overall.

> *Originally posted by **[ArcanisX](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952713):*** > > *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949839):*** > > > > And Pesc, you are a little ignorant selfrighteous bugger, the alliance only wanted to pull you back down and take the lead you gained through botting, you just quit pretty fast…and in return now you completely destroy factions and drive people out of the game. Just pathetic. > > I totally love how this particular argument keeps popping up. > > The best BS one can come up with. > > Pesc only wants to pull people back down the same way they “pulled back down” CO, those people just go all crybaby and quit pretty fast. > None of them even remotely approach the 2 days of holding up to this very breed of “pulling back down” as CO did. > > Yoo-hoo to double standarts. > > Keep it coming. i just love how this bs keeps comming up “we’re doing what you did to us” you know what? most of the players involved in your hate quest are gone…ur acting vengeance on a bunch of players that dont know what the hell is going on because of a name and the most ridiculous part of your dark quests is that you don’t seem to realize how easy the 10 members of the hundreds that you guys are bashing, can simply quit, and maybe re-join another high rank faction…hell, thats what i’m going to do when i get my hands on azure reaper…and i had nothing to do with co’s fall… but you guys seem to be blinded to faction name only…whats driving you guys? revenge to the people who attacked you, or revenge on the faction’s names?

> *Originally posted by **[inorix](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3953069):*** > > *Originally posted by **[Caad](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952503):*** > > > > Hi there, I was in CO. while I was there I could have my energy and stamina spent by a system you were in charge to handle that didn’t require my presence or activity at all. > > > > what now? > > > > just stop annoying people Pesc, some of the ones who compensate lack of life with gaming like to be in a happy communnity :P > > I wonder what the holy protectors of Pescado want to say about this. SolaceAvatar, Hotshot2k4 where are you? I don’t know, I thought that had already been cleared up. There was multi-logging going on in the old days of CO before it became against the ToS, and to say “a system you were in charge to handle” could have meant just that. Going to need a bit more clear on wording to confirm that there was a bot. Normally I’d say some evidence would be appropriate, but I see no reason for Caad to lie, so I’d be fine with taking his word on it. Also, I never said there absolutely was no botting or foul play going on, I simply said there was a lack of proper evidence. Considering you yourself tampered with evidence (war scores that you used as a “look at CO, no legit faction can score that high!”), there’s no reason for anyone to take what you say at face value.

> *Originally posted by **[BirdSpirit](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952481):*** > > I consent to the fact that there are perhaps some liars that would throw accusations around without proper reason. I have not had enough experience here, but from what I have looked at, evidence provided is ample, and the ones that provide all this evidence are too numerous. We know that you know how to hack, program and whatnot. You’re actions are well proving that you are doing it here. I’ve lurked on the forums about the time this whole CO bot drama started, and I’ve yet to seen any credible evidence (of course, I’ve never seen the war scores that inorix hacked out of the system) that exists to point at Pesc botting after the ToS was implmented. (which was about the time devs cracked down and took action to ban people) Sure, there were alot of screenies showing how CO had a ton of high war scores, but that’s pretty much true for alot of the top factions I see. I’ve heard CO pulls out those scores 24/7, but that’s about as trustworthy as a screenshow showing CO with 13k war score and every member at around the same score. Credible? Not really. Keep in mind that alot of people have bias against Pesc, so any little thing pops up, I’d assume it’d be thrown straight onto forums with the “BOT!!!” tag. I’d like to keep my hands out of this drama, but I’m still interested in what **credible** evidence (rather than speculation from warscores) the people who acuse Pesc of botting can pull out. Screenshots aside, because even a person like me with poor photomanipulation skills can clearly cut and paste white numbers onto a black background.

> *Originally posted by **[ArcanisX](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952713):*** > > *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949839):*** > > > > And Pesc, you are a little ignorant selfrighteous bugger, the alliance only wanted to pull you back down and take the lead you gained through botting, you just quit pretty fast…and in return now you completely destroy factions and drive people out of the game. Just pathetic. > > I totally love how this particular argument keeps popping up. > > The best BS one can come up with. > > Pesc only wants to pull people back down the same way they “pulled back down” CO, those people just go all crybaby and quit pretty fast. > None of them even remotely approach the 2 days of holding up to this very breed of “pulling back down” as CO did. > > Yoo-hoo to double standarts. > > Keep it coming. No BS, you don’t know what went on in alliance chat…we were all surprised to see CO suddenly disband, actually shortly before we wanted to stop the ganging (I know, we have no prrof, but that’s how it was). And pesky admitted he doesn’t want to “pull people down” but completely annihilate them…. pathetic little angry kid it seems. I just hope his mother stops paying his ISP bill soon ;)

> *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3953994):*** > > *Originally posted by **[ArcanisX](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952713):*** > > > *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949839):*** > > > > > > And Pesc, you are a little ignorant selfrighteous bugger, the alliance only wanted to pull you back down and take the lead you gained through botting, you just quit pretty fast…and in return now you completely destroy factions and drive people out of the game. Just pathetic. > > > > I totally love how this particular argument keeps popping up. > > > > The best BS one can come up with. > > > > Pesc only wants to pull people back down the same way they “pulled back down” CO, those people just go all crybaby and quit pretty fast. > > None of them even remotely approach the 2 days of holding up to this very breed of “pulling back down” as CO did. > > > > Yoo-hoo to double standarts. > > > > Keep it coming. > > No BS, you don’t know what went on in alliance chat…we were all surprised to see CO suddenly disband, actually shortly before we wanted to stop the ganging (I know, we have no prrof, but that’s how it was). > > And pesky admitted he doesn’t want to “pull people down” but completely annihilate them…. pathetic little angry kid it seems. I just hope his mother stops paying his ISP bill soon ;) of course you say that now that the dust is settle but what done is done and you will recieve pay back in fulll reguardless ;)

jaedaprince, you seem to be ignoring my question… what is your excuse ganking factions who never ganked you? You are taking moral high ground while you are doing the exact same thing you condemn others for… It seems to me you are in for the easy FP as according to your war records you are unable to win any other war but these gank ones :P Still, the question remains… How is your glorious faction Royal Prince Nation is better than the utterly evil and dishonored Alliance factions?