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> *Originally posted by **[jaedaprince](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3954057):***
> > *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3953994):***
> > > *Originally posted by **[ArcanisX](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952713):***
> > > > *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949839):***
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> > > > And Pesc, you are a little ignorant selfrighteous bugger, the alliance only wanted to pull you back down and take the lead you gained through botting, you just quit pretty fast…and in return now you completely destroy factions and drive people out of the game. Just pathetic.
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> > > I totally love how this particular argument keeps popping up.
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> > > The best BS one can come up with.
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> > > Pesc only wants to pull people back down the same way they “pulled back down” CO, those people just go all crybaby and quit pretty fast.
> > > None of them even remotely approach the 2 days of holding up to this very breed of “pulling back down” as CO did.
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> > > Yoo-hoo to double standarts.
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> > > Keep it coming.
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> > No BS, you don’t know what went on in alliance chat…we were all surprised to see CO suddenly disband, actually shortly before we wanted to stop the ganging (I know, we have no prrof, but that’s how it was).
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> > And pesky admitted he doesn’t want to “pull people down” but completely annihilate them…. pathetic little angry kid it seems. I just hope his mother stops paying his ISP bill soon ;)
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> of course you say that now that the dust is settle but what done is done and you will recieve pay back in fulll reguardless ;)
Do you realize the alliance never chased the CO follow-ups? We wanted to remove CO from their illegit position in the rankings…what you are doing now is pure excessive revenge. Shows what kind of people you really are…as said before, pathetic.
I really hope for the sake of the game ganking will be made impossible and you guys punished.
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> *Originally posted by **[inorix](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954165):***
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> jaedaprince, you seem to be ignoring my question… what is your excuse ganking factions who never ganked you? You are taking moral high ground while you are doing the exact same thing you condemn others for…
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> It seems to me you are in for the easy FP as according to your war records you are unable to win any other war but these gank ones :P
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> Still, the question remains… How is your glorious faction Royal Prince Nation is better than the utterly evil and dishonored Alliance factions?
I myself have joined after being ganked by several alliance faction felt fit to gank my team of players, so inorix your records are incorrect. Alliance has attacked “random” fraction for no good reason unlike empire. So you might want to check all the facts before assuming that i just gank for no reason.
> *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954245):***
> > *Originally posted by **[jaedaprince](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3954057):***
> > > *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3953994):***
> > > > *Originally posted by **[ArcanisX](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=5#posts-3952713):***
> > > > > *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=3#posts-3949839):***
> > > > >
> > > > > And Pesc, you are a little ignorant selfrighteous bugger, the alliance only wanted to pull you back down and take the lead you gained through botting, you just quit pretty fast…and in return now you completely destroy factions and drive people out of the game. Just pathetic.
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> > > > I totally love how this particular argument keeps popping up.
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> > > > The best BS one can come up with.
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> > > > Pesc only wants to pull people back down the same way they “pulled back down” CO, those people just go all crybaby and quit pretty fast.
> > > > None of them even remotely approach the 2 days of holding up to this very breed of “pulling back down” as CO did.
> > > >
> > > > Yoo-hoo to double standarts.
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> > > > Keep it coming.
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> > > No BS, you don’t know what went on in alliance chat…we were all surprised to see CO suddenly disband, actually shortly before we wanted to stop the ganging (I know, we have no prrof, but that’s how it was).
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> > > And pesky admitted he doesn’t want to “pull people down” but completely annihilate them…. pathetic little angry kid it seems. I just hope his mother stops paying his ISP bill soon ;)
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> > of course you say that now that the dust is settle but what done is done and you will recieve pay back in fulll reguardless ;)
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> Do you realize the alliance never chased the CO follow-ups? We wanted to remove CO from their illegit position in the rankings…what you are doing now is pure excessive revenge. Shows what kind of people you really are…as said before, pathetic.
> I really hope for the sake of the game ganking will be made impossible and you guys punished.
Well pay back is a bitch and you whatever way you want to spin it, you all made you bed now lay in it and man up
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> *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954245):***
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> Do you realize the alliance never chased the CO follow-ups?We didn’t exactly give you the chance to CHASE us, since the entire point of the follow-ups was to chase YOU. Indeed, I’m sure if we HAD a followup, you would have. But such things are no longer important to us. You taught us this. It has always been you and your kind which has created us. Your actions have, from the very beginning, created the demon you sought to destroy, and again, the demon that haunts you now.> *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954245):***
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> We wanted to remove CO from their illegit position in the rankingsMeaningless sophistry used merely to justify your own behavior to yourself. Certainly it means slightly less then a used asswipe to us.> *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954245):***
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> what you are doing now is pure excessive revenge.Yes, yes it is. Pure revenge is indeed our motivation. We need no claim to “moral high ground”, which is simply a place to situate artillery.> *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954245):***
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> I really hope for the sake of the game ganking will be made impossible and you guys punished.Means nothing to us. Trying to manipulate others into doing your bidding just makes us hate you even more. We have a sizeable contingent already that has signed on purely because of the whining you make, you know. You’re not really making any friends this way. Not that it would matter, seeing as you’re on the Roster of Hate already.
Your tears are what nourishes are our hate. Never forget. Never forgive.
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> *Originally posted by **[Golden119](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954374):***
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> Tyrant – We Know Drama.
Tyrant: Drama Is Our Middle Name.
As well as going in circles…
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> *Originally posted by **[PescadoJM](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954317):***
> > *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954245):***
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> > Do you realize the alliance never chased the CO follow-ups?We didn’t exactly give you the chance to CHASE us, since the entire point of the follow-ups was to chase YOU. Indeed, I’m sure if we HAD a followup, you would have. But such things are no longer important to us. You taught us this. It has always been you and your kind which has created us. Your actions have, from the very beginning, created the demon you sought to destroy, and again, the demon that haunts you now.
> > *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954245):***
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> > We wanted to remove CO from their illegit position in the rankingsMeaningless sophistry used merely to justify your own behavior to yourself. Certainly it means slightly less then a used asswipe to us.
> > *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954245):***
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> > what you are doing now is pure excessive revenge.Yes, yes it is. Pure revenge is indeed our motivation. We need no claim to “moral high ground”, which is simply a place to situate artillery.
> > *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954245):***
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> > I really hope for the sake of the game ganking will be made impossible and you guys punished.Means nothing to us. Trying to manipulate others into doing your bidding just makes us hate you even more. We have a sizeable contingent already that has signed on purely because of the whining you make, you know. You’re not really making any friends this way. Not that it would matter, seeing as you’re on the Roster of Hate already.
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> Your tears are what nourishes are our hate. Never forget. Never forgive.
Tears? Wow, you overestimate yourself quite a bit…
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> *Originally posted by **[Golden119](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954374):***
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> Tyrant – We Know Drama.
Love the reference to one of my favorite television stations. =)
Also… D.R.A.M.A = Dudes Raging And Making Accusations
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I remember long ago when I never (if ~~ever~~ ) wanted to play a card game due to various reasons (convoluted rule sets, spending absurd amounts of money to get the ‘rare’ or ‘good’ cards, finding people to actually play the damn game, always having to carry them around to school, etc.), and now here I am playing this online CCG. All for free, and with people I deeply respect. Not just because of their mad deck-building skills or rare cards or whatnot, but because they’re people who’ve impacted more important communities in their lives and still manage to survive all the crap they deal with in reality.
I’ll say this – as a complete naive daydreamer oblivious to the whole ‘Alliance vs. CO/Bots vs. False Evidence’ issue, I kind of wonder if PescadoJM **actually** _cares_ about the whole ‘revenge’ thing. If this is as far as his revenge plot goes, then I’m grateful; not just for my sake of losing ranking, but surprisingly, for him.
Just trying to be neutral here in the grand scheme of things.
> *Originally posted by **[PescadoJM](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954317):***
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> Your tears are what nourishes are our hate. **Never forget. Never forgive.**
I’m sure you’ve forgiven (and definitely forgotten) a lot of people since this has started, no? ^^;
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> *Originally posted by **[jaedaprince](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954309):***
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> I myself have joined after being ganked by several alliance faction felt fit to gank my team of players, so inorix your records are incorrect. Alliance has attacked “random” fraction for no good reason unlike empire. So you might want to check all the facts before assuming that i just gank for no reason.
This is a lie. Not that you weren’t ganked, you weren’t even attacked by a SINGLE alliance faction until you joined Pescado’s ganks. Even then, we negotiated with you and you agreed to back out. After that, we left you alone until you resumed your gank attacks. We tried to negotiate again but you refused to cooperate. Only then your faction was attacked. And you can be sure I have records of every single war what happened so far in Tyrant.
Edit: Apparently even I have a somewhat poor recollection of the events, attacks did happen before first negotiation.
30th of May: RPN joins in on Pescado’s ganks
1st of June: two Alliance factions “gank” RPN as a warning, then RPN and Alliance agree to avoid ganking each other
next eleven days: Alliance attacks RPN exactly 3 times in this period, no attacks overlap or even occur on the same day, RPN leaves Alliance alone
12th of June: RPN resumes ganking with Pescado, ganking Alliance factions until Sparkle Motion and other factions of Pescado are locked
next twelve days: RPN leaves Alliance alone, Alliance leaves RPN alone (except for 3 attacks by IFS)
24th of June: RPN resumes ganking with Pescado, and continues to do so ever since
Alliance attacks on RPN: 18
Alliance ganks on RPN: 1 (2 factions)
RPN attacks on Alliance: 49
RPN ganks on Alliance: 35 (4-15 factions depending on Pescado’s current rally skill)
Considering that Alliance consisted 15 factions at its height, you were attacked extremely rarely by us. And of course no attacks happened before you joined Pescado as your faction FP was so low that it didn’t make sense to attack you.
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> *Originally posted by **[inorix](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954608):***
> > *Originally posted by **[jaedaprince](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954309):***
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> > I myself have joined after being ganked by several alliance faction felt fit to gank my team of players, so inorix your records are incorrect. Alliance has attacked “random” fraction for no good reason unlike empire. So you might want to check all the facts before assuming that i just gank for no reason.
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> This is a lie. Not that you weren’t ganked, you weren’t even attacked by a SINGLE alliance faction until you joined Pescado’s ganks. Even then, we negotiated with you and you agreed to back out. After that, we left you alone until you resumed your gank attacks. We tried to negotiate again but you refused to cooperate. Only then your faction was ganked. And you can be sure I have records of every single war what happened so far in Tyrant.
Which again proved devs seems to have no fücking clue how to deal with the situation…or don’t care. Sad to see people driven out of a cool game because certain individuals can run rampant.
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You guys have no idea how much our irc chat picks up everytime a qq thread appears.
Sorry for interrupting. Do carry on…
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> *Originally posted by **[Deseis](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954574):***
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> I kind of wonder if PescadoJM **actually** _cares_ about the whole ‘revenge’ thing.Define “care”. I mean, it’s in my planner on my Tyrant to-do list. Clearly I have it scheduled. And you gotta do what on’s the schedule. Does that count?> *Originally posted by **[Deseis](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954574):***
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> I’m sure you’ve forgiven (and definitely forgotten) a lot of people since this has started, no? ^^;Nah, like I said before, forgiveness is not one of my character flaws. My memory isn’t what it used to be, but people are always quick to remind me of who they are, long enough for me to burn their names into the roster of hate. Honestly, I didn’t really know who most of them were before, since the only encounter I ever had with them was by their faction name, but they NEVER STOP REMINDING ME. If they had the good sense to skulk off in silence, I’d probably never encounter them on an individual level, but they just insist on bringing themselves personally to my attention.
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This is all just too funny. Its a **GAME**.
’Nuff said.
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Yeah, man, of course it’s a game. That’s why we’re only hunting down and destroying their factions. We aren’t crazy psycho stalkers like the guy who went and stabbed another guy for real from World of Warcrap. What happens in the game, stays in the game. What happens on the Internet, stays on the Internet. But if you die in Canada, you die in real life.
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> *Originally posted by **[PescadoJM](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954758):***
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> Yeah, man, of course it’s a game. That’s why we’re only hunting down and destroying their factions. We aren’t crazy psycho stalkers like the guy who went and stabbed another guy for real from World of Warcrap. What happens in the game, stays in the game. What happens on the Internet, stays on the Internet. But if you die in Canada, you die in real life.
There is a slight flaw in your logic. You are not playing a game if you make schedules for destroying complete factions ‘cause some member grieved your tender soul. In the end, a game is all about having fun. A multiplayer game is about having fun together. That can be competitive, but you are acting like the biggest party pooper in Tyrant. Members are leaving and factions have disbanded. If this is solely the fun you get out of this game, without having any concerns about other people, then you are acting like a sociopath. I’m not saying this to insult you, I am asking you to reconsider. You can still be a respected player instead of a hater.
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> *Originally posted by **[MRTN17](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954797):***
> > *Originally posted by **[PescadoJM](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954758):***
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> > Yeah, man, of course it’s a game. That’s why we’re only hunting down and destroying their factions. We aren’t crazy psycho stalkers like the guy who went and stabbed another guy for real from World of Warcrap. What happens in the game, stays in the game. What happens on the Internet, stays on the Internet. But if you die in Canada, you die in real life.
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> In the end, a game is all about having fun. A multiplayer game is about having fun together.
Well, that is subjective. Some find kicking babies fun. Some find kicking babies together even a lot more fun. But hey, I’m not judging.
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> *Originally posted by **[MRTN17](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954797):***
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> If this is solely the fun you get out of this game, without having any concerns about other people, then you are acting like a sociopath.Honestly, I’ve never claimed to be anything but.> *Originally posted by **[MRTN17](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954797):***
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> You can still be a respected player instead of a hater.That barge sailed some two months ago, along with all accountability. There is nothing left except hate now. You have only yourselves to blame for that one, too.
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^^ how surprising that Bob and Pescado react within minutes by a trolling reply instead of a serious one. Consider this post as my last one. It’s only feeding the attention whores, paying attention to bad behavior only rewards it.
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> *Originally posted by **[PescadoJM](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954807):***
> > *Originally posted by **[MRTN17](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954797):***
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> > If this is solely the fun you get out of this game, without having any concerns about other people, then you are acting like a sociopath.Honestly, I’ve never claimed to be anything but.
> > *Originally posted by **[MRTN17](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954797):***
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> > You can still be a respected player instead of a hater.That barge sailed some two months ago, along with all accountability. There is nothing left except hate now. You have only yourselves to blame for that one, too.
Actually you are right, you never were a respected player in this community, maybe it was just circumstantial evidence, but there was shitloads of it, maybe OJ didn’t get convicted for the killing but the truth was obvious.
I guess what happened to you was just a form of people justice, karma if you will, and I’m glad you are off the charts forever, ganking individual factions for days might be satisfying in some form for you but ultimately doesn’t hold much effect over the whole of tyrant, and I’m sure that some day the devs will find a way to handle you.
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> *Originally posted by **[MRTN17](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954837):***
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> ^^ how surprising that Bob and Pescado react within minutes by a trolling reply instead of a serious one. Consider this post as my last one. It’s only feeding the attention whores, paying attention to bad behavior only rewards it.
Does that mean we are not the same person??
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> *Originally posted by **[PescadoJM](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954663):***
> Define “care”. I mean, it’s in my planner on my Tyrant to-do list. Clearly I have it scheduled. And you gotta do what on’s the schedule. Does that count?
Technically yes I guess. ^^; I haven’t used a planner in a while…
Granted, when I meant by “care”, I was referring to a more **severe** case of being _emotionally attached_ to the revenge. The way you put it makes it almost a daily thing to keep reminder of, probably on the sensitivity level of charging a cell phone (which reminds me that I need to get a new provider altogether, ugh). In other words, you’re obviously not filled with so much wrath that it’s consumed your well-being and others in real life; this is good, because if it did consume you, then I would probably run away from everything involving Tyrant altogether if someone was plotting to devour my entrails while I sleeping. O\_O
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> *Originally posted by **[Deseis](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954908):***
> Granted, when I meant by “care”, I was referring to a more **severe** case of being _emotionally attached_ to the revenge.Are you kidding? I’m wasn’t even emotionally attached to my own mother. I don’t do emotional attachment. It’s why I constantly get accused of being a robot everywhere, not just here.> *Originally posted by **[Deseis](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954908):***
> The way you put it makes it almost a daily thing to keep reminder of, probably on the sensitivity level of charging a cell phone (which reminds me that I need to get a new provider altogether, ugh). In other words, you’re obviously not filled with so much wrath that it’s consumed your well-being and others in real life;Well, it fills me with wrath, certainly, but I rather enjoy that, honestly. Being wrathful gives me purpose in life. Otherwise you just go through the motions of living, well, lifelessly. It’s a rather empty existence, which is why I turned to the Internet: Always something to rage about there.> *Originally posted by **[Deseis](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954908):***
> this is good, because if it did consume you, then I would probably run away from everything involving Tyrant altogether if someone was plotting to devour my entrails while I sleeping. O\_ONah, that’d be too psycho, man. You’d have to do something to me in real life to warrant that. What happens in the game stays in the game. Or at least in the forum. Also, one does not devour entrails. That’s just gross. Those are things you leave for the dogs. Vengeance-cannibalism is traditionally performed upon the heart or liver. Seriously, it’s like you have no idea how to carry out a proper vengeance. You really need to put more thought into these things. What if someday you needed to carry out a major act of revenge in real life? You’d have no idea how the hell to go about doing so. You have to have plan ahead! That, too, is in my schedule: Plot Act Of Revenge, Just In Case. I mean, you don’t just wait until you actually need it to start planning. You have to be forward-thinking. Plan ahead: How would you get epic revenge upon someone who did something to you, in case someone does? Failing to plan is planning to fail.
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> *Originally posted by **[sarseny](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954856):***
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> Actually you are right, you never were a respected player in this community, maybe it was just circumstantial evidence, but there was shitloads of it, maybe OJ didn’t get convicted for the killing but the truth was obvious.
Maybe Casey Anthony should have hired his lawyer.
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> *Originally posted by **[PescadoJM](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954317):***
> > *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954245):***
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> > Do you realize the alliance never chased the CO follow-ups?We didn’t exactly give you the chance to CHASE us, since the entire point of the follow-ups was to chase YOU. Indeed, I’m sure if we HAD a followup, you would have. But such things are no longer important to us. You taught us this. It has always been you and your kind which has created us. Your actions have, from the very beginning, created the demon you sought to destroy, and again, the demon that haunts you now.
> > *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954245):***
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> > We wanted to remove CO from their illegit position in the rankingsMeaningless sophistry used merely to justify your own behavior to yourself. Certainly it means slightly less then a used asswipe to us.
> > *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954245):***
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> > what you are doing now is pure excessive revenge.Yes, yes it is. Pure revenge is indeed our motivation. We need no claim to “moral high ground”, which is simply a place to situate artillery.
> > *Originally posted by **[Arsenus](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954245):***
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> > I really hope for the sake of the game ganking will be made impossible and you guys punished.Means nothing to us. Trying to manipulate others into doing your bidding just makes us hate you even more. We have a sizeable contingent already that has signed on purely because of the whining you make, you know. You’re not really making any friends this way. Not that it would matter, seeing as you’re on the Roster of Hate already.
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> Your tears are what nourishes are our hate. Never forget. Never forgive.
I am almost rooting for this guy for the intelligent and well thought out responses.
Bottom line, it is a game. Roll with the punches, make your own faction, or join a different one, or even stop using stamina because after you get many of the cards it is no longer worth it to spend a month to get the next faction reward card.
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> *Originally posted by **[PescadoJM](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954967):***
> > *Originally posted by **[Deseis](/forums/65/topics/182690?page=6#posts-3954908):***
> > Granted, when I meant by “care”, I was referring to a more **severe** case of being _emotionally attached_ to the revenge.
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> Are you kidding? I’m wasn’t even emotionally attached to my own mother. I don’t do emotional attachment. It’s why I constantly get accused of being a robot everywhere, not just here.
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatred](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatred)
Hatred (or hate) is a deep and emotional extreme dislike, directed against a certain object or class of objects
for someone so detached from emotions, your constant hate tells alot about you
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Hatred is like that. It’s pretty much one of the few higher emotions that actually has a use, since without hatred, there’s no point in doing anything. In fact, hatred is so important that it is hardwired into the brain at a fundamental level, with an entire section of brain that exists specifically to process it. Everything else, one can do without, and some of us just simply lack them. We live so that we can hate, because without hate, living has no meaning.
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