**UPDATE!!!** 2 -------------- now adding more advanced formation tweaks from dischord, combining them with tweaks of my own! I tried just getting Imani to boost gold people only, and put jimmy jimmy ding dong and langley seperate. it gave me an e120boost!!! Now I may have to go back and change ALL my dungeon formations, lol. Read down to the first formation and then look at the fourth picture to see huge difference of e120! Do the points and tokens after area 5000 ever increase the rate at which they drop, or will it always be the same after area 5000 even if you went to area 10000? If it is the same rate, seems like it is best to just reset as soon as you get to 4hrs since last reset. Thinking about doing: regular freeplay run, regular freeplay run, regular freeplay run, dungeon run. so it would be: RP2, Finklebottom, APOD, Dungeon. (because i still hate Ghostbeard's Greed and normally do 30 minute reset instead) I did not really optimize this too much; i just kind of copied my RP2 formation mostly, lol. Here is my first result, Playing It Old School! First picture is the formation, second picture is what i earned at end, third picture is tracking until my first 100 trillion reset. Went on ahead and attached Sunday Stroll Result to this post since i forgot to add the formation! Here is result from Playing It Old School ! -----------------------------------   More Advanced Formation for Playing It Old School: ------------------------------------------- went on ahead and decided to try to just get Imani to buff gold people only and put jimmy jimmy ding dong and langley seperate....WOW! big big gains!!! i just noticed that the formation was in motion when i took the picture, lol. I'll try to put up a new picture next time this one swings around!!    BETTER More Advanced Formation for Playing It Old School: --------------------------------------------------- this one uses Langley Mimicing. it will get you to AREA 7000!   Just So Slightly Improved Playing It Old School: ---------------------------------------- i think this one is e1347 if gold o rama were active. changed Alacrity for xyggy and moved a few crusaders around. you can try switching jiaolong and milgrid then switch the plant and zyggy. sometimes its better, and sometimes its not! (guess blue circles has to do with it.)  with the tweaks i mentioned above that are sometimes better and sometimes not:   Here is result from Sunday Stroll ! -----------------------------   More Advanced Formation for Sunday Stroll: -------------------------------------   thats 106 trillion idols! better than the 7-10 trillion we been getting. I find you can linger your gold and DPS to about 100,000% but after that, you don't gain much DPS. ok, after seeing the new crypt shop, there is nothing in there worth buying except more dungeon tokens. they don't even have an idle buff in the shop! it is also best for endgame players to ONLY DO THE IDOL BONUS dungeon objective. It rotates, so you are going to have to learn all the formations. You are allowed 3% of your total idol bonus PER RUN! (you would have to get to area 10,000 to get that max bonus btw) but even getting to area 5000 still nets you 1.5% of your total idol balance per run. (which if you have 5 quad idols, is a hell of alot more than a regular run even if in that regular run you had challanger's glory AND empowered crusading!) that would be AREA 5000 = 10 areas of 500 x .15% of your total idol balance which is .15x10 areas of 500 which is 10x.1.5=1.5% of your total idols! which is 1.5% of 5quadrillion wich is 75 TRILLION IDOLS PER RESET!!! you just need 5quad idols and get to area 5000 on the idol bonus golden dungeon objective, which rotates every reset!

Burning too much DPS buffs would require more grinding than ever. Mine was 4 trillion idols per gain and growing; I have nearly 300T idols... Imagine, a player with 1Q idols after they head to Area 10000, then they would gain 30q idols... Q - Quintillion q - Quadrillion

> *Originally posted by **[hofdiddy](/forums/12051/topics/1915782?page=1#13416569)**:* > Do the points and tokens after area 5000 ever increase the rate at which they drop, or will it always be the same after area 5000 even if you went to area 10000? I mean...you would know better than I would, I'm only just breaching e1100 so I'm hardly going to be looking at drop rates beyond 5000.

The rate increase the further u get: 1500/1900 3500 5900 7900 10500 --> Cap, no more rewards So u get the same reward (coins and dungeon bonus) going from 5900 to 7900 than all the way to 5900 (more less). So far, I think the idols bonus is the only good to do (U get more idols than with a FP --> with 1,7q y get around 30t (x4 times a normal FP). Just to note, is not influenced by bonus idols!!!.

Thank you for figuring that out, Murandor! I don't know how you guys figure out formulas like that, hehe. here is result from Jungle Journey! -----------------------------   Almost a net of 96 trillion net idols!  More Advanced Formation for Jungle Journey: --------------------------------------- you can use xyggy instead of alacrity; just switch them and leave xyggy in the same spot.  AREA 7777....lucky!  Super Advanced Formation for Jungle Journey: ----------------------------------------   

Wasn't my doing! Just copied it from the discord. Would be nice to have all formations together so we can compare... Can u post it under with it's objective title in: http://www.kongregate.com/forums/12051-crusaders-of-the-lost-idols/topics/1915737-the-best-the-dungeon-the-crypt-the-formations?page=1#posts-13416755-row So we can compare them/try to improve and finally do a post with all the formations together?

Here is result from Achieve Flight! ----------------------------    More Advanced Formation for Achieve Flight: -------------------------------------   97 trillion idols! a little more resets and they will be over 100 trillion.

Here is result from Under Fire! --------------------------    First reset over 100 trillion idols! More Advanced Formation for Under Fire: -----------------------------------   Even More Advanced Formation for Under Fire: ---------------------------------------- no lingering buffs used! 2nd picture, used 1 of each lingering buffs and it got me to 8034.  

Here are results for Making Waves! ------------------------------   i wont post the final result since now that i hit a 100 trillion reset, a 101 trillion reset ain't that much better, lol. More Advanced Formation for Making Waves: ---------------------------------------  

What a hell look Mindy have?

> *Originally posted by **[nogarD_enolA](/forums/12051/topics/1915782?page=1#13418041)**:* > What a hell look Mindy have? Thats the changeling skin for Mindy, you can buy it in the skin shop. Effects are add alien tag and remove human (if you choose to use the effects).

> *Originally posted by **[astartespete](/forums/12051/topics/1915782?page=1#13418081)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[nogarD_enolA](/forums/12051/topics/1915782?page=1#13418041)**:* > > What a hell look Mindy have? > Thats the changeling skin for Mindy, you can buy it in the skin shop. > Effects are add alien tag and remove human (if you choose to use the effects). Aha. gootcha Never visit it. Now more interested question. Is it worth to change Kitty teen into human and Mindy into alien for normal FP runs?

> *Originally posted by **[nogarD_enolA](/forums/12051/topics/1915782?page=1#13418350)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[astartespete](/forums/12051/topics/1915782?page=1#13418081)**:* > > > *Originally posted by **[nogarD_enolA](/forums/12051/topics/1915782?page=1#13418041)**:* > > > What a hell look Mindy have? > > Thats the changeling skin for Mindy, you can buy it in the skin shop. > > Effects are add alien tag and remove human (if you choose to use the effects). > > Aha. gootcha Never visit it. > Now more interested question. Is it worth to change Kitty teen into human and Mindy into alien for normal FP runs? Honestly not 100% sure, I was massively OP for the normal fp forms so I didn't need to look at it. Afaik it wasn't any real benefit but someone else might be able to prove otherwise.

Here are results from Dungen Crawl ! --------------------------------   More Advanced Formation for Dungen Crawl : --------------------------------------- switch out anna at the end after getting your chests for robo griz and you will gain like e20dps! you can also switch out alacrity for xyggy.  

Result for Dark Dwellers! ---------------------   More Advanced Formation for Dark Dwellers: --------------------------------------  

Fun and Games result! --------------------   More Advanced Formation for Fun and Games: ---------------------------------------- I was really surprised! I let it run overnight from AREA 3500 after sprinting and stor ridering. They made it to 7712 and their own with roborabbit!   

Ok, last one! Free For All Results! ------------------   More Advanced Formation for Free For All : ------------------------------------- Probably better off building a 3 mimic formation for the end and using mimic tricking to get temporary higher DPS. I believe dischord has a formation like that.   3 Mimic Formation Using RoboRabbit from discord: -------------------------------------------  I could have sworn this formation originally had viktor in it! Doesn't seem as powerful now...

No Sunday Stroll formation? But thank you very very much anyway. Your formations have helped me a lot.

sunday stroll is all the way at the top! (well, second from the top!) 

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Hmmm. Who is below CarPet in Jungle Jorney super formation?

> *Originally posted by **[nogarD_enolA](/forums/12051/topics/1915782?page=1#13428763)**:* > Hmmm. Who is below CarPet in Jungle Jorney super formation? Griz

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Salut Hofdiddy, merci pour tes formations, très efficaces :) Seulement, avec le nouveau croisé Koivu, il peut renforcer encore plus tes teams, tu comptes jeter un oeil dessus et modifier? Merci encore :)