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> *Originally posted by **[ed19](/forums/17305/topics/1949125?page=1#13655918)**:*
> And why is it Froggit?
Yea it's prolly Froggit, along with Vasile, maybe Illu, Batara, Maki, Bluefire
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Bluefire isn’t even close to the worst. But yeah, as far as free champs, probably Froggit.
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My pick is Maki. Her skill set is abysmal and it doesn't get helped by her leveling. Frogit can at least have use in the frog BGE, but there aren't many elemental BGEs where Maki benefits.
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Malik, Hollow Djinn.
2 - delayed, single - tribed, has Pierce, Regenerate ( at 9 max. ) won't save him, Nullify can also be useless, doesn't even fit into his own BGE ( Elementals ; Chaos ), get's Valor - ed to death, ... naa' rather beaten down most likely anyway & is P2W ... Lol ! # Worst Champion yet.
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I'd say the worst champion card is Froggit, the Puppeteer.
> *Originally posted by **[ed19](/forums/17305/topics/1949125?page=1#13655918)**:*
> And why is it Froggit?
IMO the reason why Froggit isn't that good is that single Hex isn't very strong, and the amount of Scorch that Froggit has at the levels most f2p players will have him at is too low to be impactful. The Siphon is nice, but it's not useful if there's not much Froggit can do with the extra survivability it provides, since both of Froggit's other skills are underwhelming.
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> _Originally posted by **[sdjiofh](/forums/16906/topics/1949125?page=1#13655977):**_
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> Yeah it's prolly Froggit, along with Vasile, maybe Illu, Batara, Maki, Bluefire
• Illu is decent in the right deck. # Wyld Power
• Bluefire is good. I play him regularely on multiple occasions. # ^^
• The other 4 seem reasonable. # Yeah, ... the worst F2P. :-(
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> _Originally posted by **[ed19](/forums/16906/topics/1949125?page=1#13655918):**_
> And why is it Froggit?
Not the ( very ) worst ( of that bunch ). :-P
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> *Originally posted by **[ed19](/forums/17305/topics/1949125?page=1#13655918)**:*
> And why is it Froggit?
Batara, at least Froggit is a fast card with High Scorch
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> _Originally posted by **[TRPG](/forums/16906/topics/1949125?page=1#13656018):**_
> > *Originally posted by **[ed19](/forums/17305/topics/1949125?page=1#13655918)**:*
> > And why is it Froggit?
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> Batara, at least Froggit is a fast card with High Scorch
If Froggit had scorch like rhynio or foxfire it would be not totally awful, but its only useful stat is laughably low.
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Vassile... froggit... batara.... we forgot Loco... the poor mechanic giant.... maki is poor as well...
but well.... maybe we should focus on the good ones?...
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Basically, if a whale isn't using it, it's worthless.
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Hard to tell the worst, since there are a few out there that really don't work, my list could be longer, but here are some
Froggit
Single hex, rather low scorch and siphon on a card that gets onehit anyway. Single hex doesn't do much, doesn't work with scorch. It's really unbalanced on the skill part and just doesn't fit into the overall frog playstyle. It's branded the worst, but I think it's just down there in the junk pile.
Vasile
Pierce is useless most of the time, so every card with it will have a wasted skill slot most of the time. Legion is a skill that almost never gets full use, having to have two active non frozen cards left and right of the legioncard, so legion is a red flag for me most of the time. As final part, there is siphon to keep this sorry excuse of a card alive.
Batara
Daze is one of the worst skills in the game and every angel that's not aether has an uphill battle anyway. That alone is bad enough, but it continues with dualstrike and nothing to give it a decent damage output for it, since regenrate is like daze a defense skill, this card is pretty much a failure. Also dualstrike all 2 comes at level 9, way to late, but even if that's buffed, we still have the whole chaos part and the missing offense a 2 delay dualstriker should have, so I think Batara wins the race to worst champ
Loco-5000
A 4 delay card with dualstrike and berserk, hopefully kept alive by ward. That's just never gonna fly
I could also write some stuff about Illu, Lairel, Eichiro, Viracocha and Balt, but I think while they are on the lower part of the "Champ power list" they are all slightly better than these 4.
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I agree with Batara. At least Loco is viable during the 1 delay challenge.
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> *Originally posted by **[sdjiofh](/forums/17305/topics/1949125?page=1#13655977)**:*
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> Yea it's prolly Froggit, along with Vasile, maybe Illu, Batara, Maki, Bluefire
Bluefire is a very useful champ! I have just lvl 5 and he is in many of my challenge decks (I usually end up in top 150 or top 200).
Bluefire and Mortagan are the only real defense cards against Hex-Bolt decks for me (I'm f2p).
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You guys maybe forget one : 1dla, SeafolkChamp. I have never seen someone use it so far : Apex Land Shark.
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> *Originally posted by **[ed19](/forums/17305/topics/1949125?page=1#13656021)**:*
> > _Originally posted by **[TRPG](/forums/16906/topics/1949125?page=1#13656018):**_
> > > *Originally posted by **[ed19](/forums/17305/topics/1949125?page=1#13655918)**:*
> > > And why is it Froggit?
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> > Batara, at least Froggit is a fast card with High Scorch
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> If Froggit had scorch like rhynio or foxfire it would be not totally awful, but its only useful stat is laughably low.
I mean it is a bit powercrept for sure, but Batara was powercrept and unviable on release, at least Froggit had good Scorch when he was dropped, sure Rhynio and Foxfire both got buffed and now out scorch him but he at least had decent scorch and will likely keep that when updated, Batara is an inherently flawwed card that has an INSANELY bad BGE mtach-up with Dual-strike leaveing him vulnerable to all the Veng angels and Chaos leaving him unable to be buffed by his allies, outside of BGE the card's damage is awful and sure he's a little tanky but he's kind of an anti-physical (specifically Bezerk) card that can't really do his job BC the cards he would check/counter are unviable, even with substatial buffs it'd take an OUTRAGOUS buff to his attack and HP (26 attack, and 48 HP or some) for him to be at least useable, and since he's entirely focus dmg and no spread he'd be doomed to get powercrept quickly when his dmg is subpar, Froggit at least has some saving graces, sure his stats are low RN but that can be fixed by a buff, like most cards in legacy Batara has low stats but also an unviable moveset that will always doom him to be irrelevant
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> *Originally posted by **[Robai](/forums/17305/topics/1949125?page=1#13656109)**:*
> > *Originally posted by **[sdjiofh](/forums/17305/topics/1949125?page=1#13655977)**:*
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> > Yea it's prolly Froggit, along with Vasile, maybe Illu, Batara, Maki, Bluefire
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> Bluefire is a very useful champ! I have just lvl 5 and he is in many of my challenge decks (I usually end up in top 150 or top 200).
> Bluefire and Mortagan are the only real defense cards against Hex-Bolt decks for me (I'm f2p).
I guess ur right :/ (I think I put him on that list cuz he's only lvl 2 for me which is not a good lvl for champs) Anyways, will hafta work on that one :(
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Worst champ in the moment? EASY its LEV, why? With her mediocre stats (same hp/attack as any regular champ) she is like a normal champ now with dumb skillset (daze completely usseles) and lets not forget that she is mythic champ.... but the only mythic in her is the prize for upgrading.... definetilly not worth unless it get some serious rework
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Calling Lev the worst champion is either stupid or dishonest, take your pick.
Noone would pick Batara or Vasile over Lev if he had the choice If you want an honest debate about Lev, we have a card with the highest Invisibility in the game, as a 2 delay no less, and the unique skill heartseeker, which is also pretty awesome all in all. Attack and Health are slightly above what most 2 delay champs have, which makes sense since it's a mythic. Might even needs a small uplift of +1. The card is highly devalued by daze of course, I mentioned it's one of the worst skills in the game. Don't think they will change the skill.
All in all, for a card that needs a mythic slot and quite some ressources to level, it's rather not worth it. Quite like Mortagan isn't really worth the trouble getting him. It's by no means the worst champ in the game, if you want it buffed, just say so. Seems like the new guy doesn't get a whole lot of the game mechanics and might even overclock it if you talk long enough.
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> _Originally posted by **[Geradi](/forums/16906/topics/1949125?page=1#13656161):**_
> Calling Lev the worst champion is either stupid or dishonest, take your pick.
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> Noone would pick Batara or Vasile over Lev if he had the choice If you want an honest debate about Lev, we have a card with the highest Invisibility in the game, as a 2 delay no less, and the unique skill heartseeker, which is also pretty awesome all in all. Attack and Health are slightly above what most 2 delay champs have, which makes sense since it's a mythic. Might even needs a small uplift of +1. The card is highly devalued by daze of course, I mentioned it's one of the worst skills in the game. Don't think they will change the skill.
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> All in all, for a card that needs a mythic slot and quite some ressources to level, it's rather not worth it. Quite like Mortagan isn't really worth the trouble getting him. It's by no means the worst champ in the game, if you want it buffed, just say so. Seems like the new guy doesn't get a whole lot of the game mechanics and might even overclock it if you talk long enough.
Haha. These are The Geradi comments i just love to read. You really should make a compilation and publish it. Grabbed some popcorn and a soda to give this a complete experience ;-)…btw, i totally agree with you.
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> _Originally posted by **[le_smond](/forums/16906/topics/1949125?page=1#13656172):**_
> Agatha Myth Warden
I'm not sure how you can say that. Agatha is very useful as a hexer.
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> *Originally posted by **[Geradi](/forums/17305/topics/1949125?page=1#13656161)**:*
> Calling Lev the worst champion is either stupid or dishonest, take your pick.
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> Noone would pick Batara or Vasile over Lev if he had the choice If you want an honest debate about Lev, we have a card with the highest Invisibility in the game, as a 2 delay no less, and the unique skill heartseeker, which is also pretty awesome all in all. Attack and Health are slightly above what most 2 delay champs have, which makes sense since it's a mythic. Might even needs a small uplift of +1. The card is highly devalued by daze of course, I mentioned it's one of the worst skills in the game. Don't think they will change the skill.
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> All in all, for a card that needs a mythic slot and quite some ressources to level, it's rather not worth it. Quite like Mortagan isn't really worth the trouble getting him. It's by no means the worst champ in the game, if you want it buffed, just say so. Seems like the new guy doesn't get a whole lot of the game mechanics and might even overclock it if you talk long enough.
<<<Ah my favourite part of the forums is Geradi SPEAKING ABOUT CHAMPIONS HE NEVER HAD AND CONVINCE ME HOW GOOD THEY ARE, PLEASE TELL ME HOW MANY LEVS U SEE IN THE BEST DECKS IN THE WORLD aka Tidal Ashes and Dragon Family ????? I will answer to your nonsense to make it easier anddddddd LADIES AND GENTLEMAN TADAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THE ANSWER IS 0
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> *Originally posted by **[q335r49](/forums/17305/topics/1949125?page=1#13656199)**:*
> > *Originally posted by **[Geradi](/forums/17305/topics/1949125?page=1#13656161)**:*
> > Calling Lev the worst champion is either stupid or dishonest, take your pick.
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> > Noone would pick Batara or Vasile over Lev if he had the choice If you want an honest debate about Lev, we have a card with the highest Invisibility in the game, as a 2 delay no less, and the unique skill heartseeker, which is also pretty awesome all in all. Attack and Health are slightly above what most 2 delay champs have, which makes sense since it's a mythic. Might even needs a small uplift of +1. The card is highly devalued by daze of course, I mentioned it's one of the worst skills in the game. Don't think they will change the skill.
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> > All in all, for a card that needs a mythic slot and quite some ressources to level, it's rather not worth it. Quite like Mortagan isn't really worth the trouble getting him. It's by no means the worst champ in the game, if you want it buffed, just say so. Seems like the new guy doesn't get a whole lot of the game mechanics and might even overclock it if you talk long enough.
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> Ah my favourite part of the forums is Geradi SPEAKING ABOUT CHAMPIONS HE NEVER HAD AND CONVINCE ME HOW GOOD THEY ARE, PLEASE TELL ME HOW MANY LEVS U SEE IN THE BEST DECKS IN THE WORLD aka Tidal Ashes and Dragon Family ????? I will answer to your nonsense to make it easier anddddddd LADIES AND GENTLEMAN TADAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THE ANSWER IS 0
Well, I've not seen Batara in Tidal Ashes/Dragon Family decks either.
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