The COMDEV team listened to complaints about various cards and gathered information about the use of those cards. Then decided to nerf **Armada Xonar**, **Baldur the Bright**, **Kentauros Rebel** and **Elysian God-Engine**. The intention behind this nerf is to balance cards that were too strong on release. These nerfs were based on sims done by our sim team, to ensure each card will still be usable after the nerf and to make sure they aren't as overpowered as before the nerf. Here are new stats for cards: --- **Armada Xonar** _Vindicator Xeno Structure_ -/250/0 Enfeeble All 80 Sunder 80 Flurry 2 every 1 **Nerf:** Health 260 -> 250 --- **Baldur the Bright** _Mythic Righteous Assault_ 250/450/4 Summon **Baldur's Apostle** Inhibit 12 Sabotage 300 **Nerf:** Inhibit 15 -> 12 **Baldur's Apostle** _Mythic Righteous Assault_ 250/450/4 Revenge 12 Inhibit 10 Sabotage 300 **Nerf:** Revenge 15 -> 12 Inhibit 15 -> 10 --- **Kentauros Rebel** _Epic Imperial Assault_ 80/220/2 Evade 6 Coalition 90 Sabotage 150 **Nerf:** Health 230 -> 220 Evade 9 -> 6 Coalition 100 -> 90 Sabotage 160 -> 150 --- **Elysian God-Engine** _Epic Imperial Structure_ -/400/1 Heal All 250 Strike All 50 Mortar 200 **Nerf:** Health 500 -> 400 Heal All 300 -> 250 Strike All 70 -> 50

> **Armada Xonar** > _Vindicator Xeno Structure_ > -/250/0 > Enfeeble All 80 > Sunder 80 > Flurry 2 every 1 > > **Nerf:** > Health 260 -> 250 > This is a premature April Fool right?

Health certainly does happen to be the problem of Xonar or are there just way too much Siege(Mortar) 250 Cards available out there? And for the records, the units with Siege(Mortar) with x>=250 are: * Obsidian * Oluthian Terrorsaur * Great Duke Sallos * Talos Pantheon * Coastal Karkolossus * Xolotl Incarnation * Enyo Ruinmaker * Hardy Barrister * Gamma Hammer * Raxil Vector * Unstable Cryochamber * Cain's Industry * Vulcan Mutant * Pain Totem * Jotun's Hurricane * Seraph's Domain * Proteajet * Yavan * Scrapforge Bruiser * Slagforge Bruiser There are some NPC only units but still... For anyone wants to do same search, use this xpath query: `/root/unit[upgrade/skill[(@id='siege' or @id='besiege') and @x > 249]]/name/text()`

Thanks to ComDev team!!! This is a very good approach! In the last 8 years I've only seen buffs and this has led us to a limited card pool and huge skill values. Buffs + nerfs are the perfect tool to increase the variety of cards and doesn't allow skills to rise to the skies.

Since players paid for these with the existing stats, shouldn't there be reimbursement to those players since the cards are not as advertised?

> *Originally posted by **[deathdeathdie](/forums/2468/topics/1939619?page=1#13579378)**:* > Since players paid for these with the existing stats, shouldn't there be reimbursement to those players since the cards are not as advertised? IMHO: Well, this was the only reason for absense of nerfs in TU so far. And it has led us to powercreep. Technically of cause you can try to, but not sure that devs will answer since the game basically is not maintained by them anymore. And guys who did this nerf I believe used these cards before as well. But they understand that cards need to be nerfed - otherwise it would be hard to introduce new cards, which have to be of at least the same power which will lead again to powercreep which COMDEV team want to avoid.

> *Originally posted by **[deathdeathdie](/forums/2468/topics/1939619?page=1#13579378)**:* > Since players paid for these with the existing stats, shouldn't there be reimbursement to those players since the cards are not as advertised? Well, technically all but god-engine are free to obtain.

Gamma Hammer will be way better than Enyo Citybreaker. some people may think it's not good thing caused by this nerf. Enyo is box mythic card sold in current Box.

The god engine nerf hurts a bit, cuz I invested in the box because of them being so strong. However I do agree that these nerfs may be good for the meta. Still it's sad to see my hard earned WBs are now gone and my "investment" got devalued. The others are alright, since we all are able to get the cards. xonar in perticular had a huge impact and a nerf is justified. Overall, mixed feelings, but I guess it's good to see you comdevs are trying to fix some broken cards rather than simply introducing the next giant leap in powercreep.

> *Originally posted by **[s2000TypeS1](/forums/2468/topics/1939619?page=1#13579438)**:* > Gamma Hammer will be way better than Enyo Citybreaker. > > some people may think it's not good thing caused by this nerf. > Enyo is box mythic card sold in current Box. Nope Gamma is stricktly better only in mono Raider then and even then i would still play Enyo if i have it(especially after Xonar nerf !!!!!111one) . Gamma is better vs Cards u don't want to hit ...but Enyo is progenator and it can protected it/rally it etc and also have overload so its very questionble witch one is better ...lets say both are good ! ;p I am also very happy about Xonar and Rebel(that card is a canacer....) nerfs. God Engine nerf is also justified imho ...card is too beefy on stats for 1 drop and Baldur nerf is not even a nerf :)

> *Originally posted by **[Iskren1](/forums/2468/topics/1939619?page=1#13579445)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[s2000TypeS1](/forums/2468/topics/1939619?page=1#13579438)**:* > > Gamma Hammer will be way better than Enyo Citybreaker. > > > > some people may think it's not good thing caused by this nerf. > > Enyo is box mythic card sold in current Box. > > Nope Gamma is stricktly better only in mono Raider then and even then i would still play Enyo if i have it(especially after Xonar nerf !!!!!111one) . Gamma is better vs Cards u dont to to hit ...but Enyo is progenator and u can protectet it/rally it etc and also have overload so its very questionble witch one is better ...lets say both are good ! ;p > I am also very happy about Xonar and Rebel(that card is a canacer....) nerfs. God Engine nerf is also justified imho ...card is too beefy on stats for 1 drop and Baldur nerf is not even a nerf :) Both are good is not good thing. Gamma is free card. Enyo is not free card. Enyo must be better than Gamma. Gamma can kill Xonar in 1 turn. Enyo city breaker can't kill Xonar in 1 turn. this is huge difference. many people can drop 2 cards ( 0 or 1delay + Xonar ) in 2 turn.

> *Originally posted by **[s2000TypeS1](/forums/2468/topics/1939619?page=1#13579450)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[Iskren1](/forums/2468/topics/1939619?page=1#13579445)**:* > > > *Originally posted by **[s2000TypeS1](/forums/2468/topics/1939619?page=1#13579438)**:* > > > Gamma Hammer will be way better than Enyo Citybreaker. > > > > > > some people may think it's not good thing caused by this nerf. > > > Enyo is box mythic card sold in current Box. > many people can drop 2 cards ( 0 or 1delay + Xonar ) in 2 turn. Can't everyone drop two cards in two turns?

But you can end up having 4 cards on your field aside from Commander, Dominion, Fortress. Summon is just near you and always comes with exra hands or replacement hands!

> *Originally posted by **[s2000TypeS1](/forums/2468/topics/1939619?page=1#13579450)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[Iskren1](/forums/2468/topics/1939619?page=1#13579445)**:* > > > *Originally posted by **[s2000TypeS1](/forums/2468/topics/1939619?page=1#13579438)**:* > > > Gamma Hammer will be way better than Enyo Citybreaker. > > > > > > some people may think it's not good thing caused by this nerf. > > > Enyo is box mythic card sold in current Box. > > > > Nope Gamma is stricktly better only in mono Raider then and even then i would still play Enyo if i have it(especially after Xonar nerf !!!!!111one) . Gamma is better vs Cards u dont to to hit ...but Enyo is progenator and u can protectet it/rally it etc and also have overload so its very questionble witch one is better ...lets say both are good ! ;p > > I am also very happy about Xonar and Rebel(that card is a canacer....) nerfs. God Engine nerf is also justified imho ...card is too beefy on stats for 1 drop and Baldur nerf is not even a nerf :) > > Both are good is not good thing. > Gamma is free card. Enyo is not free card. > Enyo must be better than Gamma. > Gamma can kill Xonar in 1 turn. Enyo city breaker can't kill Xonar in 1 turn. > > this is huge difference. > many people can drop 2 cards ( 0 or 1delay + Xonar ) in 2 turn. Why would Enyo would be better in this version of TU where all new players/returning players have accesss to 6000 free WB. This game is a lot more fun when small balanced patches like this one happpens from time to time. Yes Xonar is OP as hell and thats why most top decks are full of cards with evade (and Rebel had too much evade for its rarity anyway !) If COMDevs got balls to nerfs cards they are on the right track ! p.s. buff Enyo stats to 120/280 haha just joking ! :)

> *Originally posted by **[Iskren1](/forums/2468/topics/1939619?page=1#13579516)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[s2000TypeS1](/forums/2468/topics/1939619?page=1#13579450)**:* > > > *Originally posted by **[Iskren1](/forums/2468/topics/1939619?page=1#13579445)**:* > > > > *Originally posted by **[s2000TypeS1](/forums/2468/topics/1939619?page=1#13579438)**:* > > > > Gamma Hammer will be way better than Enyo Citybreaker. > > > > > > > > some people may think it's not good thing caused by this nerf. > > > > Enyo is box mythic card sold in current Box. > > > > > > Nope Gamma is stricktly better only in mono Raider then and even then i would still play Enyo if i have it(especially after Xonar nerf !!!!!111one) . Gamma is better vs Cards u dont to to hit ...but Enyo is progenator and u can protectet it/rally it etc and also have overload so its very questionble witch one is better ...lets say both are good ! ;p > > > I am also very happy about Xonar and Rebel(that card is a canacer....) nerfs. God Engine nerf is also justified imho ...card is too beefy on stats for 1 drop and Baldur nerf is not even a nerf :) > > > > Both are good is not good thing. > > Gamma is free card. Enyo is not free card. > > Enyo must be better than Gamma. > > Gamma can kill Xonar in 1 turn. Enyo city breaker can't kill Xonar in 1 turn. > > > > this is huge difference. > > many people can drop 2 cards ( 0 or 1delay + Xonar ) in 2 turn. > > Why would Enyo would be better in this version of TU where all new players/returning players have accesss to 6000 free WB. > This game is a lot more fun when small balanced patches like this one happpens from time to time. Yes Xonar is OP as hell and thats why most top decks are full of cards with evade (and Rebel had too much evade for its rarity anyway !) > If COMDevs got balls to nerfs cards they are on the right track ! > > p.s. buff Enyo stats to 120/280 haha just joking ! :) nerf it self is good for this game. I agree with it. Gamma Hammer can kill Xonar in 1 turn = Great card. Enyo Citybreaker can't kill Xonar in 1 turn = Garbage I know some players decided to spend 6700wb to get 2 Enyo Citybreakers. because they wanted to have advantage over Gamma Hammer players. I dont know what is the best way to solve this problem. sorry for my bad english.

I sorry but i dont understand what u mean mate .Both cards does 250 mortall all and both cards will 1 shoot Xonar with 250 hp ! And Enyo is still lil better then Gamma at least for me. Whats the problem with Gamma anyway ? any1 can craft it after all. If anything the God Engine got pretty hard nerf cuz - 100 hp actually matters a lot. You still want to play 1 Xonar in your decks but i think 2x Xonar decks ll be strickly strike all decks. Also Xonar is much weaker in your def deck after that small HP change . Btw i also spend lil $ (on top if my saved 3700WB)and i got Enyo quad with 19 cards left in the box i got it :) ZERO regrets -.-

> *Originally posted by **[Tarta97](/forums/2468/topics/1939619?page=1#13579347)**:* > > **Armada Xonar** > > _Vindicator Xeno Structure_ > > -/250/0 > > Enfeeble All 80 > > Sunder 80 > > Flurry 2 every 1 > > > > **Nerf:** > > Health 260 -> 250 > > > > This is a premature April Fool right? Really good April Fools' joke, 10/10, congrats to Dev Team.

haha imagine its a troll that was 1st think i thought then i saw this spot Kappa ! p.s. Rebel DOES need a nerf ! -.- BTW i can tell you why this is a 1st april joke ...they dont say when this changes will go LIVE !

> *Originally posted by **[Iskren1](/forums/2468/topics/1939619?page=1#13579580)**:* > I sorry but i dont understand what u mean mate .Both cards does 250 mortall all and both cards will 1 shoot Xonar with 250 hp ! > And Enyo is still lil better then Gamma at least for me. Whats the problem with Gamma anyway ? any1 can craft it after all. If anything the God Engine got pretty hard nerf cuz - 100 hp actually matters a lot. > You still want to play 1 Xonar in your decks but i think 2x Xonar decks ll be strickly strike all decks. Also Xonar is much weaker in your def deck after that small HP change . > Btw i also spend lil $ (on top if my saved 3700WB)and i got Enyo quad with 19 cards left in the box i got it :) ZERO regrets -.- > Enyo Citybreaker is Mortar All 220. not Mortar All 250. I didn't mention about Enyo Ruinmaker at all. 2 Enyo Citybreaker is way better than 1 Enyo Ruinmaker, before nerf. Because 2 Enyo Citybreaker has almost same value with 2 Enyo Ruinmaker now. but, after this nerf, Enyo Citybreaker will be GARBAGE. I said Enyo Citybreaker must be better than Gamma Hammer.

> _Originally posted by **[Iskren1](/forums/338/topics/1939619?page=1#13579714):**_ > haha imagine its a troll that was 1st think i thought then i saw this spot Kappa ! > > p.s. Rebel DOES need a nerf ! -.- > > BTW i can tell you why this is a 1st april joke ...they dont say when this changes will go LIVE ! It's live ;)

> *Originally posted by **[Frankinhimor](/forums/2468/topics/1939619?page=1#13579800)**:* > > _Originally posted by **[Iskren1](/forums/338/topics/1939619?page=1#13579714):**_ > > haha imagine its a troll that was 1st think i thought then i saw this spot Kappa ! > > > > p.s. Rebel DOES need a nerf ! -.- > > > > BTW i can tell you why this is a 1st april joke ...they dont say when this changes will go LIVE ! > > It's live ;) > Gotem

What pathetic nerfs. Other than Elysian God-Engine I don't think any of you understand what a 'Nerf' actually is. Wouldn't it have been better to nerf the amount of flurry on Armada or the Enfeeble All to high single target enfeeble instead of just a piddly little health downgrade? And Baldurs nerf is a joke too. It's a good thing 'Balance' in TU is a myth and would never happen no matter how long the game stuck around for.

I do respect your opinion but the nerf to Xonar is actually pretty big ....wait few days and you ll see what i mean. Its so big that ll change the meta a bit probably ! I already start playing most of my decks with 1x Xonar expect when i use Cain as a commander(no sunder commander). When enemy plays 3 cards in a row with evade and I got 2x Xonars in my hand its feels really bad.... but so is when you dont have any sunder and u die to prixie or Winterhearth -.- Right now there are only few cards that does 260 mortal like Yavan quad. As someone who plays Enyo and Gamma(both cards basicly can be stoped to do 1 volley of 250 mortal all only by SABOTAGE) in almost all his decks i can tell you this small change of 10 hp ll have much bigger impact when you might think :)

> _Originally posted by **[Iskren1](/forums/338/topics/1939619?page=1#13579910):**_ > I do respect your opinion but the nerf to Xonar is actually pretty big ....wait few days and you ll see what i mean. > Its so big that ll change the meta a bit probably ! I already start playing most of my decks with 1x Xonar expect when i use Cain as a commander(no sunder commander). When enemy plays 3 cards in a row with evade and I got 2x Xonars in my hand its feels really bad.... but so is when you dont have any sunder and u die to prixie or Winterhearth -.- > Right now there are only few cards that does 260 mortal like Yavan quad. > As someone who plays Enyo and Gamma(both cards basicly can be stoped to do 1 volley of 250 mortal all only by SABOTAGE) in almost all his decks i can tell you this small change of 10 hp ll have much bigger impact when you might think :) So I have to play a full evade deck or a Xonar deck, cool

now, Enyo Citybreaker(sold in current box, mythic card) is garbage. Gamma Hammer(free card) is Great card.