[Moron](https://www.kongregate.com/accounts/moron88) and [I](https://www.kongregate.com/accounts/jeremyx) tried to get The Perfect Tower (TPT) on Speedrun.com, but due to either our runs using TAS (Autoclicker), kreds (micro transactions), or the fact that TPT is an idle game, they decided to not allow the game. I also tried looking at Twin Galaxies, but I needed a verified account to "sponsor" the game, which isn't guaranteed to get the game on there, and since the community of TPT is small as of now, would be very unlikely to get enough support. This forum post was my solution, as the devs didn't want to make a dedicated speedrunning section on discord, so I decided to make my own speedrunning area in the forums. # Global Rules * Since you can easily farm after HQ tier 1 and any middle section really, to try and keep runs similar, consistent, and somewhat fair, all runs have to start from HQ tier 0 either from a hard reset, or in New Game+ scenarios a fresh town tier. * Recording must be of the entire play session * To determine the time, you must go to the stats and info building and scroll down to total playtime (Active), the very first frame of the video that shows the full timer will be valid * Both the [developer website](https://www.fs-studios.com/) and Kongregate builds of TPT are valid. * You are allowed to copy and paste entire blueprint builds into workshop. * When uploading your video, if you do not show your kongregate name, it is recommended that you add your name in the description of whatever video sharing platform you are using, so identifying the original owner of the speedrun is easier. * You are allowed to use promotional codes in all sections. * Using any boost from Bonus & resources is allowed, even the video if you can figure out how to get it to work. # Speed running sections One thing to note is that in almost every single idle game, most people use autoclcikers, as autoclickers are basiclaly a part of idle and incremental games. Due to this, Autoclicker will be seperate from TAS sections, although to avoid clutter and pointless work, all TAS sections will be assumed to have autoclciker as part of them so I don't have to make even more section combinations in the leaderboard. ## Vanilla: Vanilla is playing the game fresh with no outside helpr or additional boosts not stated in Global Rules. For some sections, these runs would take an insane amount of time usually are realistically no sane person would make many runs in this section. Baro Kiteer guide me if someone posts a vanilla run for blueprint tier 2 billion ## New Game+: New Game+ is considered Town Tiering, where you have Town Credits and multiple upgrades to boost SR (Special Resource) gains, have extra upgrades, etc. I assume most people submitting times would have this considering TPT is an idle game. ## Kreds: Kreds, or Kredits, are a special currency on Kongregate, allowing you to use real world money (Or for my case, playing lots of facebook games etc to get free kreds from the free kreds deals), to gain a boost (Microtransactions) in kongregate games, such as TPT. Anyone that has rare gems, or any boost, from using kreds will fall in this category if they use said boosts, such as having 100 rare gems at the start of a run and then they go below 100 rare gems at any point during the run. However, if they do not go below 100 rare gems or use any boosts, then they do not fall in the kreds section as they did not use Kreds for an unfair advantage. ## Autoclicker: If you used an autoclicker anywhere in the run, then it falls under this section, unless of course you used other programs for additonal boosts, then those runs would fall under TAS. ## TAS (Tool assisted run): using programs for an advantage, such as a program that moves your mouse instantly in certain areas of the screen to get precise clicks, or a program that unloads multiple mission ID's to go through missions quickly, etc. fall under TAS. # Leaderboard If you get a better score, I will delete your old score from this, to cause less clutter and all that. ## Blueprint Tier 2 billion (Max/Cap) **Vanilla:** **New Game+:** **Kreds:** **Autoclicker:** **TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds:** **New Game+ and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and TAS:** **Kreds and Autoclicker:** **Kreds and TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and Kreds and TAS:** ## Town Tier **Vanilla:** **New Game+:** **Kreds:** **Autoclicker:** **TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds:** **New Game+ and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and TAS:** * [8:25] - [eQueline](https://www.kongregate.com/accounts/eQueline) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QMfFTBntUc **Kreds and Autoclicker:** **Kreds and TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds and Autoclicker:** * [4:26] - [nyagore](https://www.kongregate.com/accounts/nyagore) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot4xPj8gZAQ * [7:41] - [jeremyx](https://www.kongregate.com/accounts/jeremyx) https://youtu.be/ZF5qao2lpLw * [8:50] - [moron88](https://www.kongregate.com/accounts/moron88) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClASz4UrUcI **New Game+ and Kreds and TAS:** * [3:18] - [nyagore](https://www.kongregate.com/accounts/nyagore) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtyeHrG7p5U ## HQ Tier 5 **Vanilla:** **New Game+:** **Kreds:** **Autoclicker:** **TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds:** **New Game+ and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and TAS:** **Kreds and Autoclicker:** **Kreds and TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and Kreds and TAS:** ## HQ Tier 4 **Vanilla:** **New Game+:** **Kreds:** **Autoclicker:** **TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds:** **New Game+ and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and TAS:** **Kreds and Autoclicker:** **Kreds and TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and Kreds and TAS:** ## HQ Tier 3 **Vanilla:** **New Game+:** **Kreds:** **Autoclicker:** **TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds:** **New Game+ and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and TAS:** **Kreds and Autoclicker:** **Kreds and TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and Kreds and TAS:** ## HQ Tier 2 **Vanilla:** **New Game+:** **Kreds:** **Autoclicker:** **TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds:** **New Game+ and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and TAS:** **Kreds and Autoclicker:** **Kreds and TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and Kreds and TAS:** ## HQ Tier 1 **Vanilla:** **New Game+:** **Kreds:** **Autoclicker:** **TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds:** **New Game+ and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and TAS:** **Kreds and Autoclicker:** **Kreds and TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and Kreds and TAS:** ## Max Factory (With gem production line) **Vanilla:** **New Game+:** **Kreds:** **Autoclicker:** **TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds:** **New Game+ and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and TAS:** **Kreds and Autoclicker:** **Kreds and TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and Kreds and TAS:** ## Max Factory (Without gem production line) **Vanilla:** **New Game+:** **Kreds:** **Autoclicker:** **TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds:** **New Game+ and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and TAS:** **Kreds and Autoclicker:** **Kreds and TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and Kreds and TAS:** ## Max Laboratory **Vanilla:** **New Game+:** **Kreds:** **Autoclicker:** **TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds:** **New Game+ and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and TAS:** **Kreds and Autoclicker:** **Kreds and TAS:** **New Game+ and Kreds and Autoclicker:** **New Game+ and Kreds and TAS:** [If you would like to support the developers of TPT, you can check out their patreon](https://www.patreon.com/fireswordstudios)

First attempt on Town Tier New Game+ TAS: https://youtu.be/2QMfFTBntUc

May I please have more people uploading their runs so I can add more times? The leaderboard looks a little sparce currently.

I did hardreset -> x16-unlock in about 195hours playtime, which is a category that is not on your list, but I enjoyed it anyways

Honestly.. why? There is nothing in this game that offers interesting choices in terms of speed running. I mean.. go ahead. Do your thing. But speedrunning is all about finding exploits, shortcuts and player skill to execute the run flawlessly in a game that performs stable and equally for every player. TPT doesn't fulfill a single one of those requirements. Feels like a massive waste of time, money and energy to do speedruns in this game..

Well I did three speedruns for "hardreset to x16-unlock". One in about 500 hours playtime, one in 300 hours and one in just below 200 hours and I can tell you the improvements came from different choices, abusing exploits, finding shortcuts and probably a bit of improved skill/experience. So if you dont mind, just let us have fun here and if you dont have a meaningfull contribution, just don't post anything.

Finally updated, my bad my dudes.

Ran some more runs recently, technically these runs are in the "Autoclicker" category because I can't be bothered to manually increase HQmultiplier. Hardreset -> HQt5 : 1h44m Hardreset -> Towntier 22h28m Dont have video, do have exports to prove run.

> *Originally posted by **[NTWgreatest](/forums/32139/topics/1838380?page=1#13342164)**:* > Ran some more runs recently, technically these runs are in the "Autoclicker" category because I can't be bothered to manually increase HQmultiplier. > > Hardreset -> HQt5 : 1h44m > Hardreset -> Towntier 22h28m > > Dont have video, do have exports to prove run. > Well first off I would need the exact same gems to even import the file, and second off I can't tell if they are TAS or any other type, not to mention it's not really satisfying without a video there.

I'll see if I can get a HQt5 run captured, which would then also qualify for HQt1,2,34. There is however no way imma capture 22h28m of footage for the full TT run (which also got max factory somewhere along the way).

> *Originally posted by **[NTWgreatest](/forums/32139/topics/1838380?page=1#13335796)**:* > Well I did three speedruns for "hardreset to x16-unlock". > One in about 500 hours playtime, one in 300 hours and one in just below 200 hours and I can tell you the improvements came from different choices, abusing exploits, finding shortcuts and probably a bit of improved skill/experience. > > So if you dont mind, just let us have fun here and if you dont have a meaningfull contribution, just don't post anything. flamed

Don't know how ppl are doing speed runs on this game. Took me an entire day just to get to tier 2. Without cheating (nb 'cheat' in blueprint import), took me 16 hours from hq0 to hq 5. And after 36 hours of playtime, still can't make enough to get wc ix.

Today, I finished a video series that I primarily wanted to do as a strategy guide/tutorial on optimizing gameplay, and whose secondary purpose was a speedrun. It is broken into several videos for each HQ Tier as well as other objectives. **The playlist is on YouTube: https://bit.ly/2Iip1Tx. This speedrun is a Hard Reset, no Kreds, TAS (auto-clicker only). HQ Tier 5 was reached at 1:27:57, and 100 BPTs + Cubos 5 was completed at 23:27:28.** The video series took a lot of time for research, optimizing the playthroughs, and of course the video recording and editing process. So, unfortunately I know there is a lot of improvement available--particularly in the BPT farming segment because I was a little burned out to fully optimize it . With some more research and testing, a couple hours could be shaved off that portion. Maybe I'll come back to it with renewed energy at some point in the future. I believe the HQT portions have 100% video time, but I cut out a lot of video from the post-HQT5 videos, as it's mostly non-interactive farming. However, I did record the Stats/Info game time for each milestone. After that weeks-long project, I'll take a break for a while, but if anyone has a request for a specific speedrun type that I haven't done, let me know!