I don't like the New Tourney at all! It is ridiculous how can we get the 15 wins with so much RNG in the game and specialy in Tourney. But anyway let's talk about : "The Tourney Pack" I just did this tourney this morning we were ... 3. Yeah huge sucess ! And I did very well I manage to win 9 of my 15 wins almost 2/3 of wins, I was very happy but it was only a Silver chest yeah not bad let's see what I will have.... And I got two uncommon card and one Rare ! Wow that was unexpected... I was lucky to subscribe in the good hour... I waited the good time to fight spent 10 Gems played 15 Games got 9 Wins and the game gaved me a Rare card... I really hope the old Tourney will be back. It was easier to join, it's not fun to put on alarm to join a tourney, and there was more strategy, if you have to choose to fight the type of Hero you think you are better against. All Hero/Deck have Strenght/Weakness that is why you cant get the 15 wins... TL;DR New Tourney is no FUN and Not rewarding

I don't like the new system as well due to specific aspects: - Removal of rare coins: If few other players which can draft properly enter a tourney, fights get too much RNG dependant. Very hard to reach 15 wins in such a case (even for experienced players) - Registration phase: This has some downsides. First: You have to wait up to an hour until you can play them. If you don't have that much time you wanna skip them, resulting in less players. If some experienced players are in there and it will probably get hard to reach 15 wins you wanna skip them, resulting in less players. If there are only few players in there you wanna skip them, bc. they are getting very time consuming. With only two players you can't get 15 wins at all. With three players you can miss 3 refreshes to be able to still get to 15 wins. So tourneys might take twice as long as before, bc. you can't refresh. Please at least refresh as soon as all enemies are cleared. - Rewards: Gem/Gem+Box tourneys seems worth the rewards. Card pack/Gold tourneys do not. It's hard to reach 15 wins and rare cards are not really usable or you have them in some amount if you play this game for few months. A chance to win 15k Gold for 15 wins? Sorry, but this is just bad. It is far less risky to just grind ED instead, where you are able to get some gem shards as well. If you just reach rank 7-14 it is faster to just grind ED in the same time. - Description: Equip description is not clear. I had this issue on my first new tourney as well and I read this from some ppl in kong chat as well. Please state if equipment can be used and which one. Please look at tourney participation after the update and make up your mind if it was a good update or a bad one. We finally had tourneys with 20+ participants. Now they are down to an avg. of 5 or so again :(

Let's talk about tournements shall we....? First off the rewards, the one for gems is ok, the equipment one is fine the one for cards isn't though i mean a flawless tournement for a random epic.... really? from what i've seen it's core only cards as well which eventually people will have to many of anyways. second is the gold tournement.... 20000 for a perfect score? 10000 for 12-14 wins? I'm sorry but the time it takes to draft the cards and do 15matches i'm able to farm almost as much gold in arena/endless dungeon and then any chest improves that further. Finally gold is useless! we've been saying that for months now. Next up the wins required for the actual good rewards gold or epic are waaaaaaay to high, you expect us to get an 80% winrate with the rng involved in the draft and the game itself? xD This would be fine if we could use coins but hey apart from using a few at the end of the arena season or in a difficult crewfight they are now useless (sitting on 300+ here atm) Last but not least we only get 1hour to enter a tournement? Really do we have to start setting our alarms for tournements we'd want to enter? Not to mention that once you entered you can't even start playing right away -_- All these notes above are reasons why the current tournement system is worse than the previous one, yes some players exploited the previous format but putting a warning that abusing alts to get the best rewards will get both accounts banned and then doing so would've been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than what we got now. Finally before changing the game like this or before even starting to work on a patch to improve the game, post your ideas on the forum and let the community give their feedback to you storm. This new tournement format was probably very timeconsuming to make and could've been avoided entirely by communicating the idea with the players first. (Kindof reminds me of the potion of agression equipment when it was just released) Anyways i hope we get a reroll back to version 2.88 and maybe make an IP recogniser so people can only enter the tournement with 1 account? (don't know if that possible at all i have no idea how to program/code stuff :P).

wait, is it really core only? I won't play tourneys if the packs are giving core only.... And why is there a waiting period between refreshes if no one can join or coin? I don't get it. Overall I like the tourneys especially the gem rewards ones, but they definitely need some tweaking.

> *Originally posted by **[qwe2323](/forums/32949/topics/794916?page=1#11325367)**:* > wait, is it really core only? I won't play tourneys if the packs are giving core only.... > > And why is there a waiting period between refreshes if no one can join or coin? I don't get it. > > Overall I like the tourneys especially the gem rewards ones, but they definitely need some tweaking. So they're not only core cards. I got a crew rare from my pack But I joined with 40 mins left in the tourney and there weren't enough people for me to even get 15 wins (with the waiting) even if I had a perfect deck. If there ends up being only 1 other player I think you still don't have enough time to get 15 wins if you started from the beginning. That's a problem

We'll be tuning the new system and you can expect some updates shortly. Thanks for the feedback :)

Some feedbacks too Good: -constructed tourney is back, involoving different strategies -gems prize alwasy nice -increased frequency, once in 3 hours -drafting sequence: hero, equipment, card Bad: -gold prize, gold useless to old players -harder to win top prize in draft now, no rare coin and no room to lose Netural/debatable: -new registration -pack prize, not bad but less attracive than gems

> *Originally posted by **[putzy111](/forums/32949/topics/794916?page=1#11325356)**:* > Finally before changing the game like this or before even starting to work on a patch to improve the game, post your ideas on the forum and let the community give their feedback to you storm. >This new tournement format was probably very timeconsuming to make and could've been avoided entirely by communicating the idea with the players first. (Kindof reminds me of the potion of >agression equipment when it was just released) Actually, the devs already communicated about how to improve tourneys during streaming and in the kong chat. And I liked that attitude very much from them. There were some feedbacks about the issues of the system, and what could be the new issues rising from certain decisions, like rng based tourneys in case people were forced to play all their opponents. But now, when I see the result, it baffles me to see that almost nothing was taken into account, and yet we are asked once again to give more feedback. I don't understand why they rushed to "update" the system, when they could have just taken their time by mixing in some old and some new tourneys, and see how it would have been received by the community. Even without playing these new tourneys, with a simple glance, I'm sure the oldest players and veterans of the top 5 crews could have seen how more flawed the new system is, and indeed, this whole mess could have been avoided entirely. The number of people participating in the new tourneys speaks plenty already.

We have another update coming that should address a lot of the outstanding issues. There were a couple of snags in terms of our ability actually to implement some of the previously-discussed ideas on streams and in game chat. It's always going to be a balancing act as long as we have limited resources of time and team members. There are already some substantial improvements, like the fact that we're preventing alt accounts from ruining the experience for everyone. I agree about choosing your matchups better and our next patch is going to fix that exact issue, allowing you to choose your opponents. We are also removing the sign-up periods. Thanks for the feedback as always!

Bottomline is that there's the general feeling that rewards are much harder to get. Also that there's a reduced number of players participating in each tourney.

seems like i got unlucky twice and only got core cards before that's my bad, still 2-3 rare cards from any set is generally not worth 10 gems imo also with several people reporting freezing bugs i'm no longer doing any tournements (sadly becouse it was one of the most fun things to do before patch 2.89)