Hello Everyone, Drop rates are now viewable in-game! The information icons (i) found throughout the game will now include drop rates, if applicable. For example:   Tap or Click on the information (i) icon and the game will display the drop rates for whichever area of the game you are currently viewing. **EDIT 4/2** - We noticed a few minor issues with Drop Rates so we have temporarily disabled them. They will be viewable again soon! **EDIT 4/3** - Drop Rates have been re-enabled. **EDIT 4/4** - The Mom's Mystery Box has a jackpot drop rate that slightly increases as you make more pulls in the mystery box. The jackpot counts total pulls in the mystery box and does not reset when the jackpot rotates to a different jackpot. The drop rate will reset once the jackpot is pulled. The Mythic Chance Pack also has a jackpot drop rate that slightly increases as you make more pulls in the chance pack. The jackpot counts total pulls in Mythic Chance packs and does not reset when the pack changes in the store. The drop rate will reset once the jackpot is pulled. **Basic Packs:** * 80% common * 18% rare * 1.8% epic * 0.2% legendary **Greater Epic Stones:** * 90% Epic * 10% Legendary We have also updated the Help Center with a [Drop Rates](https://animationthrowdown.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360026428371) article to keep these details easily accessible.

Wonderwarf pulls:  Does this mean: IF you pull x1 cards (that is a single card pull?): then there is a 90% chance of Epic, 10% Legendary. x2 cards (that is a 2 card pull?): then there is 80%/18%/1.8%/0.20% So basicly if you start your pull with a common, you almost for sure it's rubbish.

Wow

> *Originally posted by **[3Pinter](/forums/727066/topics/1817397?page=1#13077193)**:* > Wonderwarf pulls: >  > > Does this mean: > > IF you pull > x1 cards (that is a single card pull?): then there is a 90% chance of Epic, 10% Legendary. > x2 cards (that is a 2 card pull?): then there is 80%/18%/1.8%/0.20% > > So basicly if you start your pull with a common, you almost for sure it's rubbish. Sorry for the confusion regarding this drop rate description. Basically, from this pack, you will receive 3 cards but one is guaranteed to be Epic or higher. For that guaranteed Epic or higher card, it is a 90% chance to be Epic and a 10% chance to be Legendary. For the remaining 2 cards pulled from the pack, they will have the rates listed under "x2 Cards". I hope that helps but let me know if you have any other questions.

> _Originally posted by **[3Pinter](/forums/726779/topics/1817397?page=1#13077193):**_ > Wonderwarf pulls: >  > > Does this mean: > > IF you pull > x1 cards (that is a single card pull?): then there is a 90% chance of Epic, 10% Legendary. > x2 cards (that is a 2 card pull?): then there is 80%/18%/1.8%/0.20% > > So basicly if you start your pull with a common, you almost for sure it's rubbish. You pull 3 card from the Sep, you have 0,3996% of getting 1 leg from the 2 cards that are nor garuanteed epic or higher and a 0.0004% to get 2 legendaries also from those, the chance of getting 3 legs from a Sep is 0.00004% and the chance of not getting a legendary is 89.64% Also that mean there is 41.513% chance that you won't get a leg from the 800 gem special deal

Thanks @BeardedOrange for the explanation!

Will you be releasing the drop-rates of greater epic stones, the drop rates of the mythic stones in SEP and the drop rates of normal 1k- Nixons-cards?

Are the drop rates for the SEP packs from WW coins different than if you buy them with gems, as the WW coin info doesn't include mythics, but the gem info does. Also, is there a way to determine what the odds of getting a legendary card as part of "Lvl. 1 Epic or Better" card from the tier boxes, as well as the drop rates for regular Nixon coin packs?

Anyone out there pulling from the Baseball Applesauce Box? I'm curious whether the odds shown by the information icon update as cards are removed from the box or if it's just static information. Also, I could see 2 ways to set the odds of a traditional box: 1. As long as any epics remain in the box, your chance of drawing an epic remains 75%. Once all the epics are drawn, your odds of drawing a leg become 100%. 2. Create a conceptual box where there's 1 copy of each leg and 3 copies of each epic. In a sense this box really starts with 192 cards rather than 96. However, each time an epic is drawn, 2 identical copies of that epic are discarded. So when you've bought out the box, you net 96 cards. In the first implementation, your chance of drawing a legendary card does not increase until all the epics have been eliminated. In the second implementation, every epic drawn improves your chance at pulling legendary cards going forward. Saying, "Every purchase removes one card from the box, giving you a better chance at the most Legendary cards!" implies that something like the 2nd method is used. I'm just wondering whether the odds dynamically update to show that or not? As an aside, I had always assumed that the odds of pulling a legendary from the traditional boxes were 33%. Obviously the true odds shown are a bit worse than I had assumed. However, if the odds do really improve as you weed out the epics, that could account for much of the difference between my assumption and the real stated odds.

Can we know the mom box 'pity timer' boost? What about chances to pull research vs stamina from winning arenas or adventure? I am still sad not to pull +10 stamina very often anymore getting research stuff instead.

> *Originally posted by **[crimsontiger](/forums/727066/topics/1817397?page=1#13077224)**:* > Anyone out there pulling from the Baseball Applesauce Box? I'm curious whether the odds shown by the information icon update as cards are removed from the box or if it's just static information. I just asked on Line and will let you know if anyone gets back to me. I'm also wondering if the GT rates will vary/update as well when the pools swap over.

> *Originally posted by **[Groundhog2](/forums/727066/topics/1817397?page=1#13077219)**:* > Are the drop rates for the SEP packs from WW coins different than if you buy them with gems, as the WW coin info doesn't include mythics, but the gem info does. In the past, I have pulled mythic stones from an SEP purchased with WW coins. No luck on that recently though. I'd certainly like to know whether WW SEPs are distinct from Shop SEPs purchased with gems. If WW SEPs actually do not have any chance to produce mythic stones, I might rethink the mix of SEPs and Hero tokens that I want to pull. > Also, is there a way to determine what the odds of getting a legendary card as part of "Lvl. 1 Epic or Better" card from the tier boxes, as well as the drop rates for regular Nixon coin packs? Maybe they were able to skate on this because of all the guaranteed stuff they do show you get from each tier? Still, those 5 Epic or better cards are an important part of the value proposition from pulling a tier box, especially of you cannot afford to go all the way to tier 8 and beyond. Accordingly, I would also like to know the odds for the Epic or better component of tier boxes. Good questions.

Mom's box drop rates show on the mobile app, but the PC interface just shows what is in the box with no drop rates.

> *Originally posted by **[crimsontiger](/forums/727066/topics/1817397?page=1#13077229)**:*. > > In the past, I have pulled mythic stones from an SEP purchased with WW coins. No luck on that recently though. I'd certainly like to know whether WW SEPs are distinct from Shop SEPs purchased with gems. If WW SEPs actually do not have any chance to produce mythic stones, I might rethink the mix of SEPs and Hero tokens that I want to pull. Good point. Are we to assume that if there isn't a drop chance for Mythic stones listed in a SEP, it's 0%? Can you clarify, BeardedOrange or Modchi? Thanks!

> *Originally posted by **[werenarc](/forums/727066/topics/1817397?page=1#13077233)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[crimsontiger](/forums/727066/topics/1817397?page=1#13077229)**:*. > > > > In the past, I have pulled mythic stones from an SEP purchased with WW coins. No luck on that recently though. I'd certainly like to know whether WW SEPs are distinct from Shop SEPs purchased with gems. If WW SEPs actually do not have any chance to produce mythic stones, I might rethink the mix of SEPs and Hero tokens that I want to pull. > > Good point. Are we to assume that if there isn't a drop chance for Mythic stones listed in a SEP, it's 0%? > > Can you clarify, BeardedOrange or Modchi? Thanks! > > Sorry about that! It appears this is likely just a mistake. The devs assured me the 2 SEP's should be the same and the Mythic Stone drop rate should be identical.

@bearedorange, does the amount of packs you buy have influence on the drop rates or are they fixed? (don't got enought of something to test it :p ) but i guess it will be fixed

> *Originally posted by **[BeardedOrange](/forums/727066/topics/1817397?page=1#13077238)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[werenarc](/forums/727066/topics/1817397?page=1#13077233)**:* > > > *Originally posted by **[crimsontiger](/forums/727066/topics/1817397?page=1#13077229)**:*. > > > > > > In the past, I have pulled mythic stones from an SEP purchased with WW coins. No luck on that recently though. I'd certainly like to know whether WW SEPs are distinct from Shop SEPs purchased with gems. If WW SEPs actually do not have any chance to produce mythic stones, I might rethink the mix of SEPs and Hero tokens that I want to pull. > > > > Good point. Are we to assume that if there isn't a drop chance for Mythic stones listed in a SEP, it's 0%? > > > > Can you clarify, BeardedOrange or Modchi? Thanks! > > > > > > Sorry about that! It appears this is likely just a mistake. The devs assured me the 2 SEP's should be the same and the Mythic Stone drop rate should be identical. it is suspicious that i have not pulled any mythic and i do not see any mythic % when i click...i am still waiting my last mail...i hope it is not like others i sent that just receive something 14 days later saying that it was pending for 14 days and it is closed...

Wow no negativity

@beardedorange I saw in the mythic Tina pack that the odds for +250 fragments were .52% for my account but .6% for my friends account. I’m sure this is just a bug, just letting you know!

> Anyone out there pulling from the Baseball Applesauce Box? I'm curious whether the odds shown by the information icon update as cards are removed from the box or if it's just static information. > I did the baseball applesauce pull doing the 4,300 gem double special deal ( the 3 card and the 10 card) got 9 legendary. I believe it was 2 baseball chris PC cards, 1 fry, 2 softball jerome, 1 deathball 1 sportsbot, and 2 Chris Griffin's. I was quite happy. I am one shy on the baseball Chris pc to have 2 quad cm1 legendary pc. Only legendary pc i have quaded. I was one shy on softball Jerome to having 2 quad of him. Love him for sewer surfer fry.

> *Originally posted by **[Curryboy13](/forums/727066/topics/1817397?page=1#13077305)**:* > @beardedorange I saw in the mythic Tina pack that the odds for +250 fragments were .52% for my account but .6% for my friends account. I’m sure this is just a bug, just letting you know! Apparently there's a pity timer for the Mythic fragment box as well. I'm guessing the pull odds start at 0.50% and then go up with each unsuccessful pull (that doesn't produce the +250 fragments). A guildmate has been pulling a bunch so is up to 1.69% now since they've been unlucky.

> _Originally posted by **[Groundhog2](/forums/726779/topics/1817397?page=1#13077219):**_ > Are the drop rates for the SEP packs from WW coins different than if you buy them with gems, as the WW coin info doesn't include mythics, but the gem info does. > > Also, is there a way to determine what the odds of getting a legendary card as part of "Lvl. 1 Epic or Better" card from the tier boxes, as well as the drop rates for regular Nixon coin packs? I was wondering the same thing. I don't see any drop rate listed for mystic with WW but they are in the chance pool.

> *Originally posted by **[Yeild](/forums/727066/topics/1817397?page=1#13077308)**:* > > Anyone out there pulling from the Baseball Applesauce Box? I'm curious whether the odds shown by the information icon update as cards are removed from the box or if it's just static information. > > > > I did the baseball applesauce pull doing the 4,300 gem double special deal ( the 3 card and the 10 card) got 9 legendary. I believe it was 2 baseball chris PC cards, 1 fry, 2 softball jerome, 1 deathball 1 sportsbot, and 2 Chris Griffin's. I was quite happy. I am one shy on the baseball Chris pc to have 2 quad cm1 legendary pc. Only legendary pc i have quaded. I was one shy on softball Jerome to having 2 quad of him. Love him for sewer surfer fry. Okay, but what do your odds show now that you've taken the two special pulls?

> *Originally posted by **[Groundhog2](/forums/727066/topics/1817397?page=1#13077230)**:* > Mom's box drop rates show on the mobile app, but the PC interface just shows what is in the box with no drop rates. that is pity, I use steam to play the game and mobile if I cant get on PC and need waste energy before refresh

> *Originally posted by **[Groundhog2](/forums/727066/topics/1817397?page=1#13077230)**:* > Mom's box drop rates show on the mobile app, but the PC interface just shows what is in the box with no drop rates. Is this browser or Stream/Kartridge, GHB? I'm using Chrome 73 and it's showing the drop rates for Mom Box.