Lol, no offense to every whale (and I'm friends with a lot of you) but c'mon now. Tying on purpose to get the top prize so up to 5 people all get top for working towards being the same mythic is a bit cheaty, if you say otherwise you're lying. Literally every other challenge awards the prize to the person that hits it first because otherwise people would exploit it. Everyone that is mad about this change is mad that they no longer can exploit the game, it's cheating and you know you were doing it, 5 people winning a prize for working together shouldn't be allowed, it's gaming the system fair and square. The #1 player, and the #1 player only, should get that prize, not the top 5. There are other ways to exploit this challenge, I'll leave that said without saying how, I've seen it done and it's stupidly easy. Kong needs to fix this shitty challenge because it's not interesting and easily exploited.

If this was truly a money grab event (and I don’t disagree that it mostly is) if I am spending $700 on gems and using all my gems, why do I get less points than if I spent about $200 on arena refills and using those? Like not even close to the same amount of points. Because last challenge I spent about 70k gems I got diddly for points when someone who used refills (and spent less on them) beat me out. Gems should be the winner in this event. Not auto battling with refills.

What is the reward for this???

Kong staff please reconsider the tie breaker, this is upsetting a ton of players who worked with others to have a tie (so both got the mythic), if yall just made it so top 3 got the mythic, you wouldn't have this issue. Also it is fair and balance to let us have ties, it is selfish and greedy to do what yall did with the tier breaker, your gonna lose alot of support becasue of this if you don't fix this before the event starts, mark my words, this will be a very negative response from the community! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

> _Originally posted by **[Mr_Krinkle](/forums/726779/topics/1897306?page=3#13344494):**_ > Lol, no offense to every whale (and I'm friends with a lot of you) but c'mon now. Tying on purpose to get the top prize so up to 5 people all get top for working towards being the same mythic is a bit cheaty, if you say otherwise you're lying. > > Literally every other challenge awards the prize to the person that hits it first because otherwise people would exploit it. Everyone that is mad about this change is mad that they no longer can exploit the game, it's cheating and you know you were doing it, 5 people winning a prize for working together shouldn't be allowed, it's gaming the system fair and square. The #1 player, and the #1 player only, should get that prize, not the top 5. There are other ways to exploit this challenge, I'll leave that said without saying how, I've seen it done and it's stupidly easy. Kong needs to fix this shitty challenge because it's not interesting and easily exploited. Well said

If they wanna do a tiebreaker, they should really beef up the rewards. Especially the tier rewards to make it more worthwhile to participate. As it stands, I have no reason to even bother with ecmc

> *Originally posted by **[BrainBoss](/forums/727066/topics/1897306?page=3#13344576)**:* > Kong staff please reconsider the tie breaker, this is upsetting a ton of players who worked with others to have a tie (so both got the mythic), if yall just made it so top 3 got the mythic, you wouldn't have this issue. Also it is fair and balance to let us have ties, it is selfish and greedy to do what yall did with the tier breaker, your gonna lose alot of support becasue of this if you don't fix this before the event starts, mark my words, this will be a very negative response from the community! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! Meanwhile in Kong HQ: https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7TKqnN349PBUtGFO/giphy.gif

> *Originally posted by **[Mr_Krinkle](/forums/727066/topics/1897306?page=3#13344494)**:* > > Literally every other challenge awards the prize to the person that hits it first because otherwise people would exploit it. Both the NRC and Refill Challenge allows ties. > There are other ways to exploit this challenge, I'll leave that said without saying how, I've seen it done and it's stupidly easy. Kong needs to fix this shitty challenge because it's not interesting and easily exploited. And why aren't you saying what the other exploit is? What's the reason for keeping it secret?

> *Originally posted by **[mfruity](/forums/727066/topics/1897306?page=3#13344637)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[Mr_Krinkle](/forums/727066/topics/1897306?page=3#13344494)**:* > > > > Literally every other challenge awards the prize to the person that hits it first because otherwise people would exploit it. > > Both the NRC and Refill Challenge allows ties. > > > There are other ways to exploit this challenge, I'll leave that said without saying how, I've seen it done and it's stupidly easy. Kong needs to fix this shitty challenge because it's not interesting and easily exploited. > > And why aren't you saying what the other exploit is? What's the reason for keeping it secret? > Pretty easy to say why not...people know about it, but I don't really want to have it also exploited as easily. I'm not using it, for the record.

Since we are rolling out tiebreakers to prevent prize sharing, can we for the love of god put a tiebreaker into the refillable challenge. I'm so sick of the 2000+ players that 'collude' every week to not purchase refills so they can share the top 500 prize. I mean enough already with this madness!

> *Originally posted by **[Mr_Krinkle](/forums/727066/topics/1897306?page=3#13344665)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[mfruity](/forums/727066/topics/1897306?page=3#13344637)**:* > > > > And why aren't you saying what the other exploit is? What's the reason for keeping it secret? > > > > Pretty easy to say why not...people know about it, but I don't really want to have it also exploited as easily. I'm not using it, for the record. Hopefully you at least reported it to tech support in a trouble ticket.

> _Originally posted by **[mkesaber](/forums/726779/topics/1897306?page=3#13344778):**_ > Since we are rolling out tiebreakers to prevent prize sharing, can we for the love of god put a tiebreaker into the refillable challenge. I'm so sick of the 2000+ players that 'collude' every week to not purchase refills so they can share the top 500 prize. I mean enough already with this madness! :D I see whatchya did there!

clash is also tiebreaker based.... For those that want to share. there is allways the one challenge... If people didnt spend refills on those we would all be getting some neat rewards 5 times a month

> *Originally posted by **[IndustryDarling](/forums/727066/topics/1897306?page=3#13344876)**:* > > _Originally posted by **[Mr_Krinkle](/forums/726779/topics/1897306?page=3#13344494):**_ > > Lol, no offense to every whale (and I'm friends with a lot of you) but c'mon now. Tying on purpose to get the top prize so up to 5 people all get top for working towards being the same mythic is a bit cheaty, if you say otherwise you're lying. > > > > Literally every other challenge awards the prize to the person that hits it first because otherwise people would exploit it. Everyone that is mad about this change is mad that they no longer can exploit the game, it's cheating and you know you were doing it, 5 people winning a prize for working together shouldn't be allowed, it's gaming the system fair and square. The #1 player, and the #1 player only, should get that prize, not the top 5. There are other ways to exploit this challenge, I'll leave that said without saying how, I've seen it done and it's stupidly easy. Kong needs to fix this shitty challenge because it's not interesting and easily exploited. > > post removed I'll give you that, its not cheating, but it is definitely gaming the system. I was wrong to use the word cheating and I apologize, but I still see it as screwing with the rewards and Kong was dumb not to have implemented it in the start.

> *Originally posted by **[Mr_Krinkle](/forums/727066/topics/1897306?page=3#13344494)**:* > Lol, no offense to every whale (and I'm friends with a lot of you) but c'mon now. Tying on purpose to get the top prize so up to 5 people all get top for working towards being the same mythic is a bit cheaty, if you say otherwise you're lying. > > Literally every other challenge awards the prize to the person that hits it first because otherwise people would exploit it. Everyone that is mad about this change is mad that they no longer can exploit the game, it's cheating and you know you were doing it, 5 people winning a prize for working together shouldn't be allowed, it's gaming the system fair and square. The #1 player, and the #1 player only, should get that prize, not the top 5. There are other ways to exploit this challenge, I'll leave that said without saying how, I've seen it done and it's stupidly easy. Kong needs to fix this shitty challenge because it's not interesting and easily exploited. you probably should look up the word "literally". since its only clash and swole that doesn't allow ties.

I think everyone knew they were eventually gonna make a tiebreaker. But I thought it would be after we saw something ridiculous like a 10 way plus tie. Up to this point, those who have coordinated ties have still used a ton of resources in doing so. I think they jumped the gun. But, I also liked ties bc it felt like sticking it to "the man". Also wanted to be clear that I think the rewards, aside from 1st place rewards, are basically nothing to a lot of us

> *Originally posted by **[linchenflower](/forums/727066/topics/1897306?page=3#13345071)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[Mr_Krinkle](/forums/727066/topics/1897306?page=3#13344494)**:* > > Lol, no offense to every whale (and I'm friends with a lot of you) but c'mon now. Tying on purpose to get the top prize so up to 5 people all get top for working towards being the same mythic is a bit cheaty, if you say otherwise you're lying. > > > > Literally every other challenge awards the prize to the person that hits it first because otherwise people would exploit it. Everyone that is mad about this change is mad that they no longer can exploit the game, it's cheating and you know you were doing it, 5 people winning a prize for working together shouldn't be allowed, it's gaming the system fair and square. The #1 player, and the #1 player only, should get that prize, not the top 5. There are other ways to exploit this challenge, I'll leave that said without saying how, I've seen it done and it's stupidly easy. Kong needs to fix this shitty challenge because it's not interesting and easily exploited. > > you probably should look up the word "literally". since its only clash and swole that doesn't allow ties. You should look up the words, sorry, not sorry. I don't like how easy this challenge is to game the system and this thread for realz hasn't actually addressed the easy way to exploit it.

> *Originally posted by **[Mr_Krinkle](/forums/727066/topics/1897306?page=3#13345096)**:* > > You should look up the words, sorry, not sorry. I don't like how easy this challenge is to game the system and this thread for realz hasn't actually addressed the easy way to exploit it. Did you file a ticket to report this exploit yet?

Why hasn't this been announced in game yet?

Pleas update in game event tab or send in game mail next time you post info on the forums. Not everyone checks or knows to check the forum on a daily basis.

> _Originally posted by **[BrainBoss](/forums/726779/topics/1897306?page=3#13345301):**_ > It's not even in the events post... > > I say we deserve compensation for this ultra screwups and late notice alot used turds not knowing it was coming so soon Compensation? Haha. Good luck... I'm still waiting for my correct and deserved Rumble awards from almost a week ago haha

That's why you save up and only spend them when the card challenge is going.