# [FEEDBACK THREAD] Guild Rumble #33 - 10/18/18 (locked)

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 ![](https://cdn3.kongcdn.com/assets/files/0002/4504/AT_Rumble8.png) Guild Rumble #33 has begun. Good luck, everyone! Thank you for your vigilant research and useful information. Is there any indication that their opponents rank have any impact on victory or MMR points? I’d like to see dual BGE/single BGE/dual BGE/ single BGE as a pattern again. I was hoping for a sole disguised rumble. > *Originally posted by **[gfore25r](/forums/727068/topics/1763014?page=1#12903280)**:* > > Going further, and using my previously discovered MMR modifier of 1/21 and 1/5 of the Final Score Delta, and subtracting that back out, one can back calculate the equation for the base MMR for each rank. Therefore, the final equation for determining the change in MMR on a loss with a Delta less than 1000 is 210 x (ln MMR Rank) - Delta/4 - 4248, otherwise 210 x (ln MMR Rank) - Delta/24 - 4248. The net MMR can change by 4100 at rank 2 to 2100 at rank 20000. For a win, it is simply 543 x MMR Rank^0.242 which is 600 points at rank 2, and 6000 points at rank 20000. Hope this helps! Sorry but I'm a bit confused by that passage. Any chance for an Excel calculation instead? Thanks. > *Originally posted by **[gfore25r](/forums/727068/topics/1763014?page=1#12906992)**:* > LOL that is excel. I'll make it a little more forum friendly with my edit below: > > change in MMR for a win = 543 x MMR Rank^0.242 So we won at MMR rank #49 and according to that formula, we should have gotten 1392 MMR points? But we actually got 1482 instead?