> *Originally posted by **[Lapare](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=20#11470768)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[artcrow](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=20#11469796)**:* > > **Goblin Invasion Event - W275 Buff and Lineage levels** > > **Requires:** Support the Goblin Army > > > > Leave Druid Challenge 4 on. > > > > This takes a bit too long run to get Combo Strike time in the duration of the event and it requires a high S400. It could be useful for a 3 day run. > > > > Can buff W275 very high with Time Warps. > > > > With an already buffed W275 Fight the Goblins can get Lineage levels faster with the Undead 25+ build. > > > > R94, S400 = 1.344M. About 70-80M% W275 with a 3 to 3.5 day run (Support level 94 was as far as I could get with my rubies during testing.) I can get Undead 29 with a long run but I'd have to do Undead 30 after the event with the buffed W275 from this run. > > > > Neutral, Undead Lineage, A2950 Elf > > > > EL1,AN5,GB7,TT3,TT6,DD4,FC7,DN2,DW2,DW9,DG6,DG7,SP:Combo Strike,SP:Dragon's Breath > > > > S215,S305,S330,S400,S1450,S1500, > > C250,C400,C590,C1325,C3000,C3100, > > D25,D200,D245,D250,D1275,D2775, > > E135,E145,E400,E590,E1425,E3250, > > A120,A305,A1200,A1500,A2950,A3400, > > W275,W400,W520,W560,W1375,W1400 > > > > * W175 can replace W560 if W175 is high. > > Wouldn't it be better to do: EL1=>EL3, DW2=>DG3, for researches: C250=>C1300, E400=>E3300, A305=>A175. I can see that more FCs => more assistants from D250 and more mana from DG7, but i don't believe it counteracts losing a lot of production as well as the assistants from E3300. E400 is a mistake. It shouldn't be there at all (I'll change it to E3300 in the build.) *edit: It's there as the gem power upgrade from Toimil's Undead 25+ build I converted to this. I missed it when switching upgrades.* The pure W275 build you suggest should be a stronger option followed by the Undead 25+ build with Fairy Chanting (adding Fight the Goblin Army if the event is still going at that point.) I had hoped to do both Lineage 30 and the W275 buffing in one go. Not that I would benefit much from the high W275 once I reached level 30. W275 buffing from Horde with Fight the Goblin army and this build both require days invested. But this one gets higher in the duration of the event and works with Time Warps. My thinking was that 1.6% assistants gained from 2 more Lineage levels would be enough to make this the better W275 buff build. And it would take a while for the "Fight" Lineage run to catch up with the hours spent gaining Faction Coins in the "Support" run. Test with lots of Time Warps: With 30 days of Time warps and Support level 75, I can get Undead level 30 in under 10 minutes. 4.4e39 Undead coins per second. W275 is 1.125B% from W520 of 7.95M assistants. DW2 is 220M%. The regular Lineage build afterwards gets 2.8e39 Undead Coins per second at Fight level 0 (also how it would do outside of the event.) Double regen with Fight 100 makes it better at 5.6e39. And some manual clicks can make FC gain somewhat higher. Here's the pure W275 buff build with all the changes you suggested. #### WARNING: Do not Time Warp beyond 2 Billion assistants as assistants and W275 will overflow. **Goblin Invasion Event - Long run W275 buff** The higher the starting Undead Lineage, the more advantage this build will have at W275 buffing over the combined Lineage build. The combined Lineage build increases Undead Lineage and lets you increase Elf. A long Lineage run afterwards will benefit from the increased Elf Lineage if starting Undead and Elf Lineages are low. Neutral, Undead Lineage, A2950 Elf EL3,AN5,GB7,TT3,TT6,DD4,FC7,DN2,DW9,DG6,DG3,DG7,SP:Combo Strike,SP:Dragon's Breath S215,S305,S330,S400,S1450,S1500, C400,C590,C1300,C1325,C3000,C3100, D25,D200,D245,D250,D1275,D2775, E135,E145,E590,E1425,E3250,E3300, A120,A175,A1200,A1500,A2950,A3400, W275,W400,W520,W560,W1375,W1400 * W175 can replace W560 if W175 is high. * C340 can replace C3000 if C340 is higher. **edit: Large S400 buffing is probably not important for this version. It was mainly for gaining Lineage levels during the event.**

> *Originally posted by **[MasterKevz](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=20#11470900)**:* > Question: how long does it take to reach an 800K~ S400? I'm able to reach 400K in the first 13-ish hrs but it rapidly slows down to just 500K+ after about 24 hrs... I have 800K S400 in my R92 export with 2 days 14 hours as Evil. 950K in R93 with 4 days Evil. 1.34M in R94 with 10 days 3 hours Evil. I assume all the Evil time was from one S400 run each R but I'm not completely sure. I used C25 instead of C300 in R94 (for regen shortfalls in longer runs.)

> *Originally posted by **[artcrow](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11471257)**:* > > I have 800K S400 in my R92 export with 2 days 14 hours as Evil. > 950K in R93 with 4 days Evil. > 1.34M in R94 with 10 days 3 hours Evil. Thanks

> *Originally posted by **[artcrow](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=20#11469796)**:* > #### WARNING: Do not Time Warp beyond 2 Billion assistants as assistants and W275 will overflow. > > **Goblin Invasion Event - W275 Buff and Lineage levels** > **Requires:** Support the Goblin Army Added a warning to the W275 buff builds. This might happen in as few as 45-50 days worth of time warps. Overflow will occur sooner if you're using a similar build with Fairy Chanting instead of Dragon's Breath.

um none of the merc part of these builds are giving me enough production to buy the unqiue building

> *Originally posted by **[SpencerB57](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11471835)**:* > um none of the merc part of these builds are giving me enough production to buy the unqiue building How many gems are you trying with?

> *Originally posted by **[artcrow](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11471257)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[MasterKevz](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=20#11470900)**:* > > Question: how long does it take to reach an 800K~ S400? I'm able to reach 400K in the first 13-ish hrs but it rapidly slows down to just 500K+ after about 24 hrs... > > I have 800K S400 in my R92 export with 2 days 14 hours as Evil. > 950K in R93 with 4 days Evil. > 1.34M in R94 with 10 days 3 hours Evil. > > I assume all the Evil time was from one S400 run each R but I'm not completely sure. I used C25 instead of C300 in R94 (for regen shortfalls in longer runs.) What gem amount were you at before buffing S400? I'm using Evil mercs and i'm only 640k after 4 days with 1e110 gems.

> *Originally posted by **[necrodoom](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11471874)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[SpencerB57](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11471835)**:* > > um none of the merc part of these builds are giving me enough production to buy the unqiue building > > How many gems are you trying with? 2e85

> *Originally posted by **[SpencerB57](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11471948)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[necrodoom](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11471874)**:* > > > *Originally posted by **[SpencerB57](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11471835)**:* > > > um none of the merc part of these builds are giving me enough production to buy the unqiue building > > > > How many gems are you trying with? > > 2e85 That's not enough. You need GB11 and at least 1e87, but ideally 1e88 gems

You can enter merc research builds with 1e87 if you're powered under sunforce assistants. Otherwise, I wouldn't start until e89 or e90.

> *Originally posted by **[Lotr99](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11471999)**:* > You can enter merc research builds with 1e87 if you're powered under sunforce assistants. > Otherwise, I wouldn't start until e89 or e90. You can reenter merc research as low as e84-e85 without sunforce assistants. Then you can use your entry build to get e90, do a GB11 run, and finally start using the Merc Production builds. Example: Neutral Merc. Undead Lineage. Dragon A2950 EL1,EL3,EL4,EL7,AN5,GB7,FC7,DW2,DW6,DG3,DG4,DG9,SP:Fairy Chanting,SP:Dragon's Breath S215,S305,S330,S460,S1450,S1500, C340,C400,C590,C1300,C1500,C3000, D25,D245,D590,D1275,D1375,D2775, E135,E145,E350,E460,E1225,E1425, A105,A120,A150,A175,A1500,A2950, W150,W180,W275,W400,W1375,W3150

God's hand (if you have it tiered up) is a decent substitute for gb11 before you get to a point where mana buildup is reasonably quick.

> *Originally posted by **[Hyppy](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=1#11297088)**:* > ## FUDG "Florian's Ultimate Diamond Grinder" - R87+ Good merc build courtesy of Curunur > > This one works up into the e110s and beyond, but REQUIRES T6 of all the spells. You'll also want at least a 1e7% W275. After Rastan9's neutral build above loses steam, this will take you beyond. > > Note: **DO NOT BUY SHARED BENEFITS UNTIL STAGE 4! **This means that you CANNOT use Buy All for the majority of the run. > > Stage 1: Lasts until you get the 400 REs for the lineage, about 5-45 minutes depending on W275. > Stage 2: Use all Spells and Tiers to be able to buy all Researches, then let them run for ~10 minutes to get maximum buildings > Stage 3: Spell building for 1-8 hours. Only cast FC1, DB6 and TC to build up DB:Green, D525, etc. > Stage 4: Buy the Shared Benefits upgrade, then go full spells until abdication. > > Good Mercenaries, Dragon Lineage, Demon A2950. > Mercs: > FR1,FR3,EL7,AN5,DD6,DD7,FC7,TT6,DN2,DG3,DG4,DG9,SP:Fairy Chanting,SP:Grand Balance > M13:EL3 > Research: > S215,S305,S330,S1275,S1450,S1500, > C300,C340,C400,C590,C1300,C3000, > D25,D200,D245,D525,D1275,D2775, > E50,E135,E350,E460,E1225,E3250, > A30,A175,A120,A1500,A2950,A3400, > W180,W275,W400,W1375,W3050,W3150 > > Why would anyone go with Demon Bloodline at that point? the only reason one would play evil before that would be for S400 buff, or not? I'm currently at R90 and production for the last bits are getting kinda slow, but i can't see the usefulness of this build with that bloodline choice Not that i had the skill or patience to make my own :D

> *Originally posted by **[BigKane2004](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11472079)**:* > > Why would anyone go with Demon Bloodline at that point? the only reason one would play evil before that would be for S400 buff, or not? > > I'm currently at R90 and production for the last bits are getting kinda slow, but i can't see the usefulness of this build with that bloodline choice > Not that i had the skill or patience to make my own :D Read demon lineage bonus and one of the building upgrades.

> *Originally posted by **[BigKane2004](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11472079)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[Hyppy](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=1#11297088)**:* > > ## FUDG "Florian's Ultimate Diamond Grinder" - R87+ Good merc build courtesy of Curunur > > > > This one works up into the e110s and beyond, but REQUIRES T6 of all the spells. You'll also want at least a 1e7% W275. After Rastan9's neutral build above loses steam, this will take you beyond. > > > > Note: **DO NOT BUY SHARED BENEFITS UNTIL STAGE 4! **This means that you CANNOT use Buy All for the majority of the run. > > > > Stage 1: Lasts until you get the 400 REs for the lineage, about 5-45 minutes depending on W275. > > Stage 2: Use all Spells and Tiers to be able to buy all Researches, then let them run for ~10 minutes to get maximum buildings > > Stage 3: Spell building for 1-8 hours. Only cast FC1, DB6 and TC to build up DB:Green, D525, etc. > > Stage 4: Buy the Shared Benefits upgrade, then go full spells until abdication. > > > > Good Mercenaries, Dragon Lineage, Demon A2950. > > Mercs: > > FR1,FR3,EL7,AN5,DD6,DD7,FC7,TT6,DN2,DG3,DG4,DG9,SP:Fairy Chanting,SP:Grand Balance > > M13:EL3 > > Research: > > S215,S305,S330,S1275,S1450,S1500, > > C300,C340,C400,C590,C1300,C3000, > > D25,D200,D245,D525,D1275,D2775, > > E50,E135,E350,E460,E1225,E3250, > > A30,A175,A120,A1500,A2950,A3400, > > W180,W275,W400,W1375,W3050,W3150 > > > > > > Why would anyone go with Demon Bloodline at that point? the only reason one would play evil before that would be for S400 buff, or not? > > I'm currently at R90 and production for the last bits are getting kinda slow, but i can't see the usefulness of this build with that bloodline choice > Not that i had the skill or patience to make my own :D Demon Lineage production boost at L25 is 8016x = 801500% production boost.

The build uses Dragon Lineage not Demon, we get to choose a secon Bloodline with A2950 but we can only cvhoose 1 Linege, which is NOT Demon So the Bloodline effect of Demon pretty much stays zero or near dependand if ou used Evil before(for S400 buff maybe?)

> *Originally posted by **[BigKane2004](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11472127)**:* > The build uses Dragon Lineage not Demon, we get to choose a secon Bloodline with A2950 but we can only cvhoose 1 Linege, which is NOT Demon > So the Bloodline effect of Demon pretty much stays zero or near dependand if ou used Evil before(for S400 buff maybe?) A2950 is Bloodline + base Lineage, perhaps try to read its description more carefully.

huh the more you know, to much to read in this game :D

> *Originally posted by **[Caesor](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11471943)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[artcrow](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11471257)**:* > > > *Originally posted by **[MasterKevz](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=20#11470900)**:* > > > Question: how long does it take to reach an 800K~ S400? I'm able to reach 400K in the first 13-ish hrs but it rapidly slows down to just 500K+ after about 24 hrs... > > > > I have 800K S400 in my R92 export with 2 days 14 hours as Evil. > > 950K in R93 with 4 days Evil. > > 1.34M in R94 with 10 days 3 hours Evil. > > > > I assume all the Evil time was from one S400 run each R but I'm not completely sure. I used C25 instead of C300 in R94 (for regen shortfalls in longer runs.) > > What gem amount were you at before buffing S400? I'm using Evil mercs and i'm only 640k after 4 days with 1e110 gems. I started the run at 3.6e117 (3.6 Octg) in R94 after Neutral Mercs slowed down and I did one short FUDG run. I started at a higher gem total in earlier reincarnations. If you ended up using the Dragon + Druid S400 build that could make it slower. With the Dragon + Elf build and less than tier 6 spells, mana regeneration could fall short of max mana. With enough missing tiers, the Dragon + Druid build could actually be better. A missing trophy like Prismatic Mana could also reduce the effectiveness of the run. There's the updated version from the Wiki. S400/TC R82+ Evil Author: toimil Faction: Evil Mercenary Bloodline: Dragon A2950: Elf Mercenary Templates EL3,EL7,AN3,AN5,AN6,DD6,DD7,FC7,DN2,DG3,DG6,DG9,SP:Fairy Chanting,SP:Grand Balance Mercenary 13th Upgrade UD7 Research Template S50,S305,S400,S1450,S1500,S3200, C300,C340,C400,C590,C3000,C3100, D25,D200,D245,D275,D1275,D2775, E10,E135,E145,E350,E495,E3250, A10,A120,A410,A1500,A2950,A3400, W205,W400,W525,W560,W1400,W3050

> *Originally posted by **[artcrow](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11472152)**:* > There's the updated version from the Wiki. > > S400/TC R82+ Evil > > Author: toimil > > Faction: Evil Mercenary > Bloodline: Dragon > A2950: Elf > > Mercenary Templates > EL3,EL7,AN3,AN5,AN6,DD6,DD7,FC7,DN2,DG3,DG6,DG9,SP:Fairy Chanting,SP:Grand Balance > Mercenary 13th Upgrade UD7 > > Research Template > S50,S305,S400,S1450,S1500,S3200, > C300,C340,C400,C590,C3000,C3100, > D25,D200,D245,D275,D1275,D2775, > E10,E135,E145,E350,E495,E3250, > A10,A120,A410,A1500,A2950,A3400, > W205,W400,W525,W560,W1400,W3050 > Ah. I was using the older build.

Does the lineage upgrade display show the current lineage or the next one? Lineage unlocks left me with expression it's the current one.

> *Originally posted by **[Oktavia_witch](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11473808)**:* > Does the lineage upgrade display show the current lineage or the next one? Lineage unlocks left me with expression it's the current one. It is the current level.

I'm at R87 and the builds I'm using slow down to molasses at about 1e110-1e112, any ideas why? Does it show down for everyone? And should I swap to something like FUDG?

> *Originally posted by **[Dustmongery](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11473991)**:* > I'm at R87 and the builds I'm using slow down to molasses at about 1e110-1e112, any ideas why? Does it show down for everyone? And should I swap to something like FUDG? What build are you using? Rastan's build gets me pretty well up there, but when that slows down I switch to Reaper of Interests.

> _Originally posted by **[Lotr99](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11474136):**_ > > *Originally posted by **[Dustmongery](/forums/8945/topics/783256?page=21#11473991)**:* > > I'm at R87 and the builds I'm using slow down to molasses at about 1e110-1e112, any ideas why? Does it show down for everyone? And should I swap to something like FUDG? > > What build are you using? Rastan's build gets me pretty well up there, but when that slows down I switch to Reaper of Interests. Rastans is only getting me to 1e111 with out really slowing down. And reaper doesn't kick in til 1e113 without a long build up right?