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i just maxed out the "final" zones helmet and it gives me a 11,000% boost to NGU's
HOWEVER..the bread helmet i still have from 7 zones ago...with the EM cap boost..is still the best to use for NGU'S
with the optimal NGU gear using the bread helmet you have +205.56T% boost to NGU's
HOWEVER with the "final" zone helmet's 11,000% boost that drops to +200.15T% NGU boost
4G if you read this..what is the point of giving the final zone helmet a NGU boost when it's worse than the bread helmet?
give it a EM cap boost since IF you want to make it help with NGU'S...EM cap is still better than the NGU boost
(unless you boost the NGU boost to compensate)
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We are definitely not using the same setup because the gear optimizer sent me back to the "10 litre hat" from the western set for (lower EM cap but EM power to compensate).
I assume this might change depending on how much EM cap you need to reach the hard cap for magic cap.
Now, if your gear is optimized for NGU + Hack, it might still come as one of the better options for the head slot given its fairly high resource 3 cap and power on top of the EM cap (but it's not like other items that come after it don't have good stats as well for hacks).
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> *Originally posted by **[slay0mithos](/forums/984525/topics/1920415?page=1#13522200)**:*
> We are definitely not using the same setup because the gear optimizer sent me back to the "10 litre hat" from the western set for (lower EM cap but EM power to compensate).
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> I assume this might change depending on how much EM cap you need to reach the hard cap for magic cap.
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> Now, if your gear is optimized for NGU + Hack, it might still come as one of the better options for the head slot given its fairly high resource 3 cap and power on top of the EM cap (but it's not like other items that come after it don't have good stats as well for hacks).
this is what i'm being shown is best
with the 10 galleon hat the boost is (+195.07T%)
have you set the bread bowl helmet to level 100 by right clicking it?..if it's set to level 0 then the space helmet and Galleon hat are picked as better!
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Why is your offhand power set to 10%?
I don't know about setting them to level 100, it's the default level for all items when I use it.
Anyway, with my "nude" (without equipment but with all other bonuses) stats for energy, magic and resource 3 filled in (from a couple weeks ago but the values didn't change drastically and only went up anyway, making EM cap even weaker) here is what I get with the settings you have shown:
As you can see there are a lot of differences, the key is the only blue item, no toilet paper roll, no antena...
The downside is that it leaves me at 0% for EM bars so I have to use a different loadout for that part.
I know that you might say, my NGU bonus is much lower than yours by a factor of 6.2, but you have to keep in mind that any EM cap bonus over the hard cap is wasted so unless none of it is wasted in your case (because of a much lower base EM cap for example) you are not getting those 2 billion percents.
(as a disclaimer I have not reached that point in the game yet because I have even tried going for progress in adventure zones for months so I just reached the lobster v1 a couple days ago).
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> *Originally posted by **[slay0mithos](/forums/984525/topics/1920415?page=1#13522291)**:*
> Why is your offhand power set to 10%?
> I don't know about setting them to level 100, it's the default level for all items when I use it.
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> Anyway, with my "nude" (without equipment but with all other bonuses) stats for energy, magic and resource 3 filled in (from a couple weeks ago but the values didn't change drastically and only went up anyway, making EM cap even weaker) here is what I get with the settings you have shown:
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> As you can see there are a lot of differences, the key is the only blue item, no toilet paper roll, no antena...
> The downside is that it leaves me at 0% for EM bars so I have to use a different loadout for that part.
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> I know that you might say, my NGU bonus is much lower than yours by a factor of 6.2, but you have to keep in mind that any EM cap bonus over the hard cap is wasted so unless none of it is wasted in your case (because of a much lower base EM cap for example) you are not getting those 2 billion percents.
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> (as a disclaimer I have not reached that point in the game yet because I have even tried going for progress in adventure zones for months so I just reached the lobster v1 a couple days ago).
is your equipment right clicked and set to 100?
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I don't know why you keep asking this, the default for all items is level 100, the only way to get something other than level 100 is to first edit them to whatever level you want to use (which I never do) so all of the items shown are level 100.
Just in case we don't use the same site, I am using this one:
https://gmiclotte.github.io/gear-optimizer/
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> *Originally posted by **[slay0mithos](/forums/984525/topics/1920415?page=1#13522307)**:*
> I don't know why you keep asking this, the default for all items is level 100, the only way to get something other than level 100 is to first edit them to whatever level you want to use (which I never do) so all of the items shown are level 100.
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> Just in case we don't use the same site, I am using this one:
> https://gmiclotte.github.io/gear-optimizer/
i ask since it's possible you set it to 0 when you got some drops form breadzone and wanted to check if you can swap out old gear for it now
also i clicked that link...same gear like i posted above..so somethings off
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That's a lot of cap items you're still wearing, by your point, I'd expect you to only need 2 cap items. Sounds like your nude caps (in the optimizer) are not updated, or you need more base cap/ cap perks/quirks/wishes.
I haven't reached nether yet, and I've been using the west world hat for quite a while. If I had nether gear, the nether hat would be better for me.
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What did you put as "nude" stats (not "base")?
What I have in the inputs right now are (I left them in the format they need to be in for the input to work)
Energy cap: 18045343411813184
Magic cap: 6047729801337353
Energy power: 5037668257680
Magic power: 1674826881480
Energy bars: 832761662040
Magic bars: 278509437360
Resource 3 power: 226247236
Resource 3 cap: 1049833755360
Resource 3 bars: 51317078
Since I have been playing for a lot longer than you my base stats are probably higher, resulting in higher nude stats as well but even with that factored in it looks like you have a lot of EM cap, to the point where it makes me wonder if you have either skipped EM stats or not filled the nude stats on the page (or maybe filled the base stats instead of the nude stats, that can have a similar effect).
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> *Originally posted by **[slay0mithos](/forums/984525/topics/1920415?page=1#13522353)**:*
> What did you put as "nude" stats (not "base")?
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> What I have in the inputs right now are (I left them in the format they need to be in for the input to work)
> Energy cap: 18045343411813184
> Magic cap: 6047729801337353
> Energy power: 5037668257680
> Magic power: 1674826881480
> Energy bars: 832761662040
> Magic bars: 278509437360
> Resource 3 power: 226247236
> Resource 3 cap: 1049833755360
> Resource 3 bars: 51317078
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> Since I have been playing for a lot longer than you my base stats are probably higher, resulting in higher nude stats as well but even with that factored in it looks like you have a lot of EM cap, to the point where it makes me wonder if you have either skipped EM stats or not filled the nude stats on the page (or maybe filled the base stats instead of the nude stats, that can have a similar effect).
tip: you can put in your nude caps (or any other input) using scientific notation (e.g. 4.711e15, which is approx my current nude cap for both e/m). the last bunch of digits don't make a significant difference anyway
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You can?
It must be very specific about syntax because I tried to use the notation used by the game (unequip everything and use the number in the input box after pressing the "cap" button for each resource at the top), so 4.711E+15 and that was not working, with thousand separators like "," or a space it didn't work either so I assumed that only the raw number worked.
Good to know in the future, I'll just make a quick spreadsheet that outputs the right format next time I need to change the number.
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