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Also Q, why would stalkers have kongregate accounts from 2008, are these dangerous hackers that stalker you just play flash games in their free time for years?
Because every stalker is also a person who did stuff before and during the time they were/are a stalker. Your question really makes no sense. Did you think they were all pod people that matured in the last two years or something?
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I was not around during said Furoa screenshot that proves her ban. Can you please clarify what happened with the screenshot that got her banned, Q?
Denied the existence of the stalkers, claimed proof I was providing wasn't proof. Pretty simple to identify as stalker behavior. It's funny, there were shitloads of people asking questions/disagreeing/etc... and oddly, only people acting really suspicious as I outlined got banned. Maybe there was a reason for that.
Because I already did and you just handwaved it away despite the obvious proof contained therein? You don't get to repeatedly ask for the exact same thing over and over and act like your never saw it the first time. It's another stalker tactic that's pretty sad. You try to make it look like I'm not answering your questions when I'm in fact just tired of answering the exact same question over and over again with the exact same proof everyone except you completely accepts as proof.
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What exactly about that screenshot proves your suspicions, then? You claim to be so good at debate but every time we ask for clarification or rebut one of your points all you do is dance around the issue, use ad hominems, or handwave the rebuttal away without addressing the issue at all.
No, I give you proof, you claim it isn't proof, everyone else accepts it as proof, and we all go on with our lives while you keep asking the same question over and over again in the comments as though the answer is somehow going to change. Again: common stalker tactic to try and make me look evasive when I'm actually just tired of answering the same fucking question over and over again while you pretend I never answered it.
Why would I bother? Didn't you see it before and say it wasn't good enough? That's always the response from you folks. There's no player mutiny. Everyone knows what's going on and what happened. There's nothing actually left for me to answer.
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http://i.imgur.com/k9dJ9iY.png If you're talking about this one it doesn't show furoa doing any of the things you are talking about.
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Have you ever considere the possibility of Delos being his own stalker?? I mean... The game crashes sometimes, that´s why we all kind of believe there is someone messing around but... Who would care for a small game played by such a small community?? What if, in fact, Delos would be insanely crashing his own game so people would believe it? Would that be impossible? I don´t think so...
The game has literally never crashed. The stalkers used to bribe or threaten the hosting company into shutting off the server and blaming it on RAM. Moved hosting companies, never happened again. The server's back to running on 256MB of RAM, by the way. The people after me care about attacking me, not the game in specific. Nice try at your usual lies and deflection, though, stalker.
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d) I'm done trying to be polite and civil with you when you're just going to reject all evidence that doesn't agree with your worldview. You've twisted words to suit your own meanings, seen connections where there were none, and contradicted yourself on multiple occasions. (and please. point me to this nebulous 'everyone' that sees the screenshot as 'damning evidence', because i haven't heard a peep from them at all. There was literally two lines of information on it that explained the reasoning behind my infodrop. circumstantial, contextless, and would not fly in court.)
I'm done. Inb4 more accusations of walls of text and lying.
You know, it's really ironic that you're claiming I'm rejecting evidence. Which is what you're doing. Stalkers always try to project their own failings onto others when trying their stupid attempts to convince people of lies. Is it because you realize my strategy of using facts is better than your strategy of lying repeatedly? We have a screenshot of you doing exactly what I said would get you banned. The end.
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a) 'never posted that you're 'crazy'/'delusional'' does not read 'Oh but I thought you never even said anything remotely like that?' But thanks for spinning. b) Honestly, proving that 'round3' means 'third reroll' is a lot more believable than trying to link dan to craig when they were two unrelated individuals. It's even worse when there are people who can vouch for his name irl. Also, it's very difficult to prove intent. c) I'm not a stalker, I've never been a stalker, and I don't plan to. Your allegations that I am a stalker are unfounded, slanderous and hurtful, especially considering I had no idea this game existed until the tail end of the newb rush.
No, I am perfectly sane and present nothing except supportable factual information... which is why only the banned and a couple people who don't even play the game are still posting about this. Because nobody else really cares about your lies anymore.
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and if you were referring to the comment that i made that you were pointing fingers at the playerbase and thinking they're stalkers... well, of course i'm going to quibble about that because there's no solid evidence for or against; you implied i was working with them by the timing of your post, i was offended by the implication, and had to defend myself. (and if you count denial as evidence i'm working with them...neither a true stalker nor a suspected stalker would admit to it, innocent or otherwise.)
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...what the heck is there something i'm missing here because either a) my memory's gone and lied to me or b) there's been someone posting in my name. i've never posted that you're 'crazy'/'delusional' in any of the posts; all that was there posted by other players that dancraiground3 might be a stalker was just breaking his name into parseable words. what. please do point us to evidence to the contrary. ...and a third thing, posting the guy's three rerolls does not deny you connecting him to craig and dan and the stalkers, that information is neither mutually exclusive nor damning.
I already did point you to the relevant evidence. You said it didn't prove anything. Which you will continue to do every time I point you to any evidence, no matter how obviously damning. Which means you're a stalker. Which is why you're banned. Going pretty much full circle here.
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Am i missing something then? I haven't seen one person support the banning of furoa and it looked like the only evidence you had for dancraig being a stalker was his name.
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That screenshot supports furoa to be honest. All she did was protest the banning of dancraig before (from what i saw).
No, they pointedly called me crazy/delusional and tried to deny all the facts that I posted which obviously pointed to dancraiground3 being a stalker (some of which was posted by other players prior to all that in The Devil's Inn). Again: there is no widespread disagreement about the bannings. It's just a couple people working with the stalkers trying to make it look like there's a controversy when there isn't.
Oh, so you see nothing relevant, your buddy thinks it supports you, and everyone else sees it as damning evidence? Why yes, it looks like I did indeed ban correctly.
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What else did I say in the Inn? The other stuff on there was postulation about the date of joining (which is admittedly only an estimate, I didn't keep track of those things at the time) and some fluff and song lyrics that wasn't even aimed at you, or relevant to the discussion. I'm honestly baffled why you'd be calling me a liar and a slanderer based on that?
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I'm gonna be completely honest here, the chat makes the game. I'm not talking about the in game chat, i'm talking about the Kongregate chat room. On its own, Clout is a silly political simulator, with a few twists and turns here and there. However, with the Kong chat, you join the GLORIOUS ranks of Kongress, a band of clout players who balance their lives in the NSUSA between stalkers, IlluminaQjoo, soviet space stations, aliens, crazy homeless people, hackers, drug addiction, recovery, relapse, warfare, spice bombings, torture, off site gaming, game discussion, and general ridiculousness. The game is just one piece of the puzzle, the kong chat is what makes the experience. Join Kongress today, and remember the motto. "A brighter future....hold on, let me finish this line...*snort*...i could use a hooker right now".
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Imagine a crazy political simulator game. It involves scandals, drama, petty arguing, slander, money, stalkers, hackers, FBI, Scientology, razors, ninjas, fords, death rays, and squirrels. But it isnt Clout. Clout is merely a game within that game. The real game is unfolding right in front of you, the game of internet players, the game of comments section that has an eccentric developer that replies to almost everything, and you are there to see it all. This is the game of the internet. Welcome to the Cloutiverse!
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Nice to see someone who goes out of their way to slander me is a hypocrite. Razor is using exploits then he gets mad at when for supposedly using exploits.Proof: http://imgur.com/TtWFAvC This picture shows that Razor had 2 assassins hit at 06:16, one hit me, the other hit himself which if you look in the clout examiner shows one hitting me, and the other has no name because it was used with glitch money which hit himself because according to is logic, he ruins the game.
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'If there was any spuriousness to what I did, people would actually be supporting you in-game. Yet nobody is. Because they saw what actually happened, too.' Oh, Delos. That's probably because I tried to support someone you banned in game and got banned for it, slandered, and mocked. I wonder why no one would dare speak up after that point.
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For posterity, this is what I posted about dancraiground3 in the Inn before it got pushed down: 'Dancraig, green, player ID 35595. Dancraig1, green, ID 35596. dancraiground3 (for third reroll), green, ID 35622. just saying.'
Nowhere in that did I claim stalkers didn't exist, nowhere in there did I call you a liar, I just presented other information and made some conjectures based on such. If you are going to paint that as 'being slanderous and accusing you of lying' then go right ahead.
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Also Delos... You do know that not everybody is a native english speaker right?? Do you have different countries in your imaginary reality?
Do you mean the imaginary reality of Clout: The Game? Because I think you can see from the world page that it does, in fact, have other countries in it. And to be perfectly honest if you're not a native English speaker and you're trying to talk shit to me: you're going to end up looking like a dumbass. Best to quit now. The stalkers can't get you in trouble with the INS or anything if you're worried about that.
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ill bo honest i have a hard time believeing scientologist dont have better things to do but i dont think its impossible either and as long as the games keep coming i am more then willing to deal with whateve problems arise keep the awsome games coming Delos cant wait for the lobby to be done :)
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It does not take a genious to talk about your private life Q.... You have no wife, you live alone, you spend the hell of a time in the computer, and you probably have some records of mental illness... You don´t have to be a scientologist stalker motherfucker to know that...
Well, you're wrong about everything there except the fact that I am not married and don't have a roommate (though that doesn't exactly mean I always live alone). Amusingly enough, I have no actual desire to be married so I'm not really sure what your point is? Being married would probably get in the way of me sleeping with random women, so yeah.
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Sometimes facts happen but for reasons other than those you suspect. And sometimes you make accusations in the Devil's Inn about people that get pushed down, and then you deny them yourself.
Just food for thought.
Yeah, sure, sometimes. But not this time. Which is why you're repeatedly posting lies in the comments to try and discredit me... because I'm exactly right. If there was any spuriousness to what I did, people would actually be supporting you in-game. Yet nobody is. Because they saw what actually happened, too. Lie all you want, but it's really not going to do you much good.
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Guys, you all deserve better than that... Don´t stay in this game, don´t let this delusional insane guy to do and say whatever crap crosses his mind...
Oh gee, a stalker calling me delusional and insane while being incapable of putting grammatically-correct sentences together. You do realize that inability to effectively communicate via writing is a hallmark of mental illness, right? It's pretty much unheard of for a seriously mentally-ill person to have even reasonable written communication skills, and it would be impossible for such a person to possess the linguistic skills that I do. Anything else you'd like to be wrong about today?
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Hi Q. This is Somnus, aka Seras Victoria. I just wanted to say that while I'm feeling a little betrayed by your decision to ban me, I accept your decision and hope it gives you some peace of mind. To clear a few things up: I've never denied or affirmed the existence of stalkers when asking for elaboration on your collection of evidence, merely provided alternative explanations. Apparently that counts as denying your claims now? It was past time I left, I guess. Not sticking around after you've slandered your playerbase, banned people left and right unjustly, and been a general arse to those who would be your fans.
I just wanted to say that I hope the real stalkers lay off, and any of their lingering traces of influence in the code get patched, and that your server security gets to the point where no one can mess with the code, whether through stalkers or the chrome console. Stay sane, stay safe.
No, you pointedly denied obvious facts, called me a liar and other things and are only lying about it now because you did it in The Devil's Inn and therefore can easily pretend you did not do what you actually did. Unfortunately for you, I can, in fact, remember things.
He can still talk, he just can't read them. He gets other people to send him screenshots of posts all the time. Now that's his only way to see any of them. Which I find quite amusing.
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How the hell does one even sell the war paint they have on? ... ... ... ... Actually, I don't want to know. Nevermind.
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I rate the game 1/5. Gameplay quality is good, satire is high, but the developer is a nutjob who bans any players who don't agree with his Nazi ideals. He will steal your money and then ban you. Do not play unless you want some nutjob who thinks some stalkers are trying to fill up planes with plants so that he can't have a seat.
The FAA seems to disagree with you. Also The FBI, DHS, etc, etc etc. However, people who are working with the stalkers will always try to call me crazy when I shed light on their activities... no mater how obvious the evidence and how poorly-conducted your coverups.
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1/5. It's an okay game, but the developer just verbally harasses his playerbase, bans them, and doesn't give good reasoning for his actions. It's just an overall unhappy arua and time could be spent better. Dev banned someone for having a common name (not in game name, but his legitimate real name that he used for the game) and dev put a conspiracy behind it that said person was slandering dev- banned. Do not recommend imo
No, I banned someone for making references to my personal life in-game which proved they were working with the organizations stalking me. On top of that: they broke the rule of denying the existence of the people stalking me. The end.
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dancraiground3 is in no way a stalker. He simply asked for stronger evidence. I understand it's not easy running game, but you can't just ban people for no real reason. He hasn't done anything wrong, except question the stalkers, while 12q has messed with your game and even added a VIP called, and I quote: Qs "stalkers"
So if you're going to ban people for no good reason, at least ban the one person who deserves to be banned.
Actually: I very clearly outlined that dancraig3 is obviously a stalker, he wasn't asking for information (I told him all the relevant facts), and in the face of irrefutable evidence he continued to claim there was no problem. In fact, your insistence that he isn't is going to get you banned as well. Oddly 12q said he was going to try and frame you, and yet here you are doing a bang-up job all by yourself. 12q's missions assassinate himself and he can't see any posts. The fact that he isn't technically banned isn't really relevant.
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"STALKERS SAID THAT MY CONINSITITURENTS WANT HITLE THAN ME?!?!?!? OOOH. Sneaky Dave will find them, then he wil tell me where you are and then ill get my DRAGONBORN SHOUT glided armour and - just when my options are spent ILL BAZOOKA YOU STALKERS!" - King Piotr when he saw his Coinsitutent support
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" What's this .-./ ....-/ thingy eh? I never heard of this stang language WHAT THE HE- Wait... Sneaky Dave haven't told me everything, it seems that a new code ws impllemented! NOT VERY NICE!" - King Piotr when he got a strange letter
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I didn't actively discuss how to exploit the stalkers work for my own benefits and schemes, i tried out an exploit someone else announced and tried to discourage killer from Dos'ing the server.
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Is there any way to counter being attacked and being investigated all the time? It does get annoying not being able to fight back against someone who constantly attacks you.