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Edit to below post: They being the devs, not the players who shifted focus. We are allowed to chance our opinions about a game.
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The comments went from 'Is this game racist?' to 'Screw you for making us spend more you greedy devs!' I don't think they know this is actually a worse thing to complain about for a game.
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What the devs implemented is what is "hurting game progression." I think it's just one other tactic to strangle players for real money while making it take longer and longer to finish the game.
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I'm just curious what other possibilities there might be for the comment, "Some things in this game hurts its progression." Such a cryptic statement in many ways, but without any other explanation, many of us have naturally interpreted this as financially based.
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"Todays announcement is not fun . We have doubled the amount needed to craft Gingerbread."
We are still WAITING for the Special event for this server that will come soon from your NOVEMBER 2023 announcement. Oh, and in that same announcement you said you "are working to make your experience at Oceania better." Seems the understanding of making it better and soon are not what most of us players understand them as.
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At first I thought it amusing that the reward for the latest event was "cancer".... but now I'm beginning to wonder if it wasn't a mistranslation...
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“Todays announcement is not fun . We have doubled the amount needed to craft Gingerbread.” Well you are spot on. That is not fun. I don’t feel like I need to explain why, other comments have done that very well and I agree with all of them. However I do want to add something that will hopefully resonate with the devs… People tend to support free games financially because enjoy the game and respect the developers and this update is a huge step backward on both those fronts. I hope this is reverted quickly.
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to hell with the devs, a fun but grindy game that rewards grinding, so we literally cut the grinding benefit in half. just as well say screw you devs
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Devs make events that are very hard to complete with poor rewards. Then they follow it up by nerfing progression. I hope that the devs reverse these bad changes/policies soon.
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I'm afraid that the "average players" who regulary offer all sorts of farm stuff including crops will decrease under the new energy/spice conditions.
More will be discouraged in beginning ... and others might stop early when advance becomes even more energy intense. And ressource draining events every few weeks don't help the regular game progress either.
Somehow I doubt that this kind of game (depending on friend help and offers) can thrive based on "pay to play" gamers only.
But I'm a gaming noob. I'll probably proved wrong.
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HEY DEVS, now that you doubled the spices needed for ginger bread, why don't you increase the drop rate on harvesting by 80%? To me this might make your players less upset with the increase.... just a thought.
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Why double the cost of gingerbread? If you want to reduce the amount of free energy, halving the drop rate of spices seems like a much better solution: It makes performing other tasks on friends' islands relatively more attactive, increases the value of spice rewards from other sources and doesn't punish players by essentially removing half of their previously earned spices. I personally lost lost several hundred cookies because I typically only make new gingerbread once my supply of cookies runs out.
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@Sir_Gregor, the final quest is marked as "trigger", it means that the quest doesn't appear until you actually complete it. So you just need to feed the camel on desert island and you'll get the quest.
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In the Starfish Disaster event, there is supposed to be a final quest after finishing "Among the stars" but for some reason it does not show up for me. Is there another condition that has to be met?
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"Some things in this game hurts its progression and we know its tough to take away players toys, but sometimes you just need to. "
I don't understand this cryptic explanation. I can only guess that it is about spending more rubis for energy and more real money for rubis.
Why should I spend money (or just lifetime) for this game due to more energy limitation?
It just became more restrictive.
Less interesting.
More one-dimentional.
Less fun.
More discouraging.
And I see engaged and eager players leave. :sob: It promises to become a good weekend for game changing decisions.
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In answer to: todays announcement:
"Don’t hate us too much and have a good weekend."
I don't hateyou / the developers. I won't hate because of a game. I'm not even angry. I will not have a good weekend in Oceania. I'm just sad.
"Todays announcement is not fun. We have doubled the amount (of spice) needed to craft Gingerbread. "
I've learned today that the game - the devs - intentionally prefer unsocial playing mode.
- Feeders are punished because each feeding action (or other farm help) reduces the chance to gain spice.
- Harvesters are encouraged to hunt for spice even more.
- Only most efficient and egoistic players are rewarded and intentional double harvesting may be well accepted and considered a clever move soon.
Play the game the same way .... as destructive and "industrial" as possble. Individual approach and creative ideas are overrated and must be more limited.
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So instead of making simple improvements to reduce the server load/cost you just nerf the most important tool in the game in some vain attempt to squeeze money out of the players.
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You cut the amount of cookies i get get in half - i will do the same with my rating of this game. But don't hate me Devs, it's only to encourage progression. Have a nice weekend.
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2 spice (+100%) to craft gingerbread - Devs are crazy, or just trying to kill the game and make players leave. Its hard enough to earn spice.
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"Todays announcement is not fun . We have doubled the amount needed to craft Gingerbread. Some things in this game hurts its progression and we know its tough to take away players toys, but sometimes you just need to. Don’t hate us too much and have a good weekend."
Just after I posted a review that was in good favour of the game! Thank you very much Devs, it looks like we lost a couple of long-time players just because of this decision of yours. Pray tell, in what way does crafting gingerbread at the previous rate hurt game progression?
As it is now, this is only a small game community and spice is precious and hard to come by. Your decision to raise the price for gingerbread/cookies will only lead to more double-harvesting and other unsocial behaviour but it will not entice players to buy creds for rubies or whatever you may have thought it would lead to.
I may not hate you too much but you lose a star nonetheless.
3/5 now
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Thanks Jappipi - I have 24 plants left. It seems from my limited experimentation that the Oysters spawn on empty spots so I wonder if I clear space then there is the more chance there is for them to appear. I have had 2 on one day but only 1 the next even after I had cleared an extra plant. I will keep clearing when I have spare energy and see what happens.
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I appreciate that we're having a good discussion here. (Some of) the Oceanians do eventually come across as smart, which is great, but they are still very much built around racist tropes and they should have fixed that before launching it here. It wasn't cool when the original game came out but things liked that happened back then. However we've all learnt a lot in the last decade. It's definitely not cool in 2023/4 when we all know better. It's not just about broken English but about a specific racist cadence of broken English that is "black coded" and, as we see, only applied to the black inhabitants. I am trying very hard to preserve my island but it's getting more and more difficult because the game really pushes you to destroy everything, which I dislike immensely. That's also exactly how colonialism functioned/functions. Having said that, I really what @Kitsunegao, @Shipscat, and @dursus have done with their islands.
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My two cents on all this is that it feels overall like a 3-star game to me. I agree with much of what both Kit and W4M are saying. There's a lot of fun stuff here, but there's also a good amount of problems too. So, somewhere around 3 stars feels reasonable, at least to me.
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As far as skin color and clothing choice is concerned I pretty much agree with Kitsunegao. Nevertheless it should have been adjusted by now ... maybe a more international community will initiate a change. And the native Oceanians seem to be the cleverer inhabitants the longer I follow the game. XD
I like the usually kind and helpful community ... havn't experianced toxic tendancies so far.
I cannot judge if this game and its community are better or worse than others - admittedly Oceania is my first and only experiance. The game is not perfect for surebut for me it's likeable and interesting enough to keep me here.
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@w4m4w "This game is colonialist (razing pristine indigenous environments to build junk like castles), misogynistic (why is the clothing gendered?), and racist (why can't players be anything but white?"
The "need" to destroy natural environment and variance is an issue for me. I've ranted about it more than once. Tried to fire the achitect of the Barbie-Castle ^^ ... seriously wished I could have skipped this quest line or replace it by another. In the end I've decides to "play it my way" and preserve bits and pieces of the original state. What I do is far from being a model for a RL Utopia - just my little playful world. After all it's just a game.
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@w4m4w, thank you for your view! We have to take into consideration that this game is over a decade old and originated in Latvia, a country with an indigineous population which is "white". The lack of being able to choose skin colour when making your avatar bugs me too, same as the gendered clothing. The natives speaking broken English however only reflects the Kong community whose English is not any better (myself included). And seriously, the natives got a hold on you with all their demands! They're not dumb, they know how to make you work for them.
I like your island, it's a real nature reserve.
About the toxic and cultist fandomship, I haven't encountered it so far.
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@Kitsunegao I have to disagree. A few months ago someone posted a comment saying "Colonialism: The Game" and they were absolutely correct. This game is colonialist (razing pristine indigenous environments to build junk like castles), misogynistic (why is the clothing gendered?), and racist (why can't players be anything but white? why do only the "native" (a loaded term itself) people speak in broken English, which is a racist trope?) A section of the player base is also cultish and toxic - they downvote anything said about the game that is fair but negative (this comment will be an example) instead of engaging with the arguments. As for the game itself, the mechanics are boring grinds and timers, all extrinsic motivators to get people addicted and compel them to keep coming back, which is terrible game design. There are no intrinsic motivators. (Before anyone asks, I play it because I indirectly research and study games, among other things.)
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@cresswga you don't need to clear all plants/stone, but the majority. Exact amount we dont know yet. The respawns happen daily. I have 17 plants and small rocks in there and ~20 pearl chests (dont know if they count)
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This game's rating of 2.7 is inexplicably and looks quite unfair. I've been playing it for 11 months now and I think there is no other game on Kong that offers us such a variety: Oceania has farming without the hassle of most farming games, zoo elements without the annoying tycoon stuff, it has riddles, nice cartoon characters and a workshop to make any stuff from food to jewellery.
There is no threat from neighbours, no fighting, in fact you need neighbours to progress easily.
And yet it puts no pressure on advancing - you can make your own little world, a vacation site, a zoo, a nature preserve, a vast plantation or farm - whatever suits you.
True enough, the coding is... sometimes kinda awkward but I've seen worse in younger games.
Give it a chance - there's a helpful community springing to your rescue in case you'd get stuck.
Rated 4/5
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Can someone tell me how to get Oyster Mushrooms to grow in the cave? Do I have to clear out all of the plants and/or limestone? Thanks.
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I also stopped the event, cause it´s useless. The only thing to do is feeding the red cancers with 2 energy to get 5 pincers and exchange 2 pincers against 2 energy in the cancer caves with a gain of 150%. ;-)
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the unique crafting on event island are for an event that was month ago on the MAIN server only. you can ignore those.
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Think I'm giving this event a pass. Per the wiki the reward is a lobster which can't be fed by friends, is 5 food, and gives salt? Not worth it.
Really feels that each event the reward is more insulting
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Yall are terrible friends LOL, I had to go inactive to get my animals revived. Please help me, especially my ducks and sheep.