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Sorry, Air units are far too powerful, and unlocking new new turrets every level is lame. Only got to level 6 and I'm bored.
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*sigh* Really, I expected better after the first game. This could have been so much better. It wasn't. This game has entirely different mechanics from the first one, which was good and didn't need changing! Graphics schmaphics, it doesn't matter how good they are if you have a lame game.
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@Developer Re: Level 8 --- Xelestial is right, and your rebuttal simply doesn't make any sense. You can't upgrade your AA units past level 2 in this level because in order to do so, you need to destroy air units... you can't kil air units to upgrade towers, and you can't upgrade towers to kill air units. A catch 22, really.
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or just build no anti air at all and take the damage from the planes. its not that much ... only two waves of air. there are several strategies to win level 8 ...
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after trying to beat lvl 8 for 2 hours... I quit playing this. Too hard. I have put those support towers that protect near al my towers, got 9 (read well: NINE!) AA guns in path of big airplane, and still not going down. AA guns are at lvl 2, which is max level for them in lvl 8 (maybe not in programming, but sure it is in money value...)
Sorry guys, i loved canyon defense 1, liked the first levels and the upgrade system, but lvl 8 is just WAY too hard even for a regular Defence player like me.
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I'm sorry, but the air units ruin the game. Although they don't attack your base, they can ruin good setups and the AA towers are too weak and expensive to be effective.
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I can see this game's rating dropping much farther then it is right now if nothing is updated. Fix the anti-air units. make all upgrades and unlocks permanent/make levels bigger and longer. this got a 1/5 from me, even though it started out so well.
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Dude... i had 34 (!!!) lvl3 AA-Turrets, 7 AA-Lasers and 5 Slow-towers firing at the 2 precision-strike rockets, and not even a SINGLE one was brought down.
How the hell is it possible for a rocket to withstand more punishment than a heavily armored and shielded tank?
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I can truly say that no matter how much I "try" to like this game it continues to subliminally get me to put my fist through my monitor...and I like my monitor, so I had to stop playing. So many people stating the same complaint in regards to the sever imbalances in this game cannot all be wrong. Instead of going about and attempting to refute each of the comments on the many problems with the AA, the developer should be open to more suggestions in order to make improve its game. All I see is the developer digging in their heels and sticking to their guns, defending what many of us see as a flawed game that has all the potential in the world to be great. Thank you, that is all.
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Finally, it is very tedious to rebuild upgrade paths - I think you should rethink how you are approaching that. Having Laser AA towers unlocked does me no good if I have to spend so much money unlocking them that the game is over and I am dead from a lack of useful towers before I can use them.
Fix the unlocking system, and tweak the few things I mentioned, and you have an original, unique TD game. I especially like the experience and upgrade system.
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Firstly, original ideas. Thank you. Secondly, to everyone saying level 8 is impossible - it is not. I beat in a few tries, WITHOUT selling off my arsenal, I should note. Just put the slow guns in strategic positions and buy about 6 or 7 AA. Remember that the air units go in lines where your towers are... you can spread the damage and endure, or group your towers in a line to concentrate fire power.
Thirdly, I don't think the AA is underpowered, though it is a tad expensive. I also think the direction of incoming air should be made clearer.
I agree that rotation should be faster, and I definitely agree with the comment that slow guns should target unslowed enemies. I have lost levels before because a stronger unit was not slowed instead of a very weak one.
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"Developer response from IriySoft
Flying enemies appear from the direction which is opposite to the base. They target towers so they always fly where your towers are." Not true. In level 8 the base is north, and the air stuff comes from the north as well.
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AA is too weak. Also, when lots of poeple say AA is too weak, it's usually a good idea to listen, rather than deflecting with a weak answer.
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Levels 15 and up are so far beyond stupid hard...Done with this game. Makes me sad, but between bugs, inconsistency and how wildly imbalanced it is...I realized I wasn't having fun anymore. Pity.
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So... I have to "unlock" all my towers every level? Every single level, I have to build five mounted guns before I can deploy AA? Every level I have to kill thirty enemies before I can put down a cannon? That's just incredibly dull and repetitive. "Upgrade tasks" are even worse. You could do this in a game with much longer scenarios, perhaps, but I have no interest in plowing through short levels like this. (Air) Units fighting back is not original, but innovative at least. A shame that it's implemented so poorly. The combination of map modification and terrain-destroying enemies is clever, but the map grids are so granular (14x14) that there isn't room to do anything really interesting with them. And it doesn't help that you have to go through the crappy task/upgrade/grinderific process to get the walls unlocked to use. I'm giving this 3/5 for trying to do lots of interesting things, but honestly it's just 2/5 in terms of real fun.
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And, after switching computers, I've just noticed a HUGE difference in difficulty between systems. Lag seems to have previously made my units far less effective.
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I stopped building anti air towers as they are just a complete waste if cash. The air units come from random places. normally out of the tower's range. Even if you managed to luckily guess where they will appear, the air units are so fast that the tower doesn't do anything. With the money I save from not buying anti air, I just repair and buy better units rather than wasting money on a useless tower.
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It's bad when a player beats dozens of attacks, and the last die, simply because they had never encountered such a boss, and just do not know how to adequately prepare.
This is one of the reasons that you, IMHO, should give the player a consolation prize, a system of checkpoints or at a detailed briefing before him.
P.S.
Sorry for my english
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I even sold off all my units on level 8 to avoid having them blown up by the air waves. The problem is the APCs that follow them. With the accelerating shield, they're at my base in, no exaggeration, 1 second. They're at the base before the guns can even turn to aim where they were. Mounted guns don't fire, and the cannon shots end up hitting the ground about the same time my base is destroyed. I even tried hitting them with an airstrike, but that didn't affect them in time to save the base. I like a challenge, but this is artificial difficulty.
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i was so scared by the fact a gun man got past my towers and was killing the wall that had no defenses behind it. but then,i rejoiced - he ran out of ammo and had to come back! :D 5/5
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I've done every challenge I have access to. I have a perfect score on all the first five levels, and the one right below that on 6 and 7, which I can't improve on after 5 times trying. I just can't save those gates. And I'm not getting any new XP from replays. So I don't have access to the challenge levels I need to grind to get the gun that can win lvl 8 for me - this new AA gun. I CAN"T get access to it, and I can't go any farther without it. I am goddamn stuck, 48 XP away form the promised land, and that is goddamn annoying.
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You're doing something wrong with addition in the Statistics screen. [using double rather than int?]
For Mission 1 it said I gained 11 xp each from enemies destroyed, gates saved and base integrity and 0 xp from tasks completed. Then it said the total xp was 32.
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I find myself agreeing with everyone else. AA Towers are too weak considering that they are useless against the majority of waves. They seldom protect your buildings, and instead occasionally shoot down aircraft after they are done attacking- basically they make you a small amount of cash, but not an amount commensurate with their cost.
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Toss my hat in the ring as well - AA towers are totally useless. They are so underpowered they can't do a darn thing. Way too unbalanced to be fun.
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I read the comments before I played, so I built a lot of AA turrets, but it still wasn't enough, not to mention that whil building the AA turrets I ran out of money for ground units and they destroyed my base T.T
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Lol you're trolling us with these AA towers, bro
We say we're having trouble killing stuff with the AA towers
You say we have to place more
We need that money for the more important ground targets, but all of the towers we have for the ground targets are dying
so you tell us to upgrade our AA towers by doing their tasks
to upgrade the tower you need to kill air units....thats what we had trouble doing in the first place... These towers aren't effective unless you line up a whole wall of them to fight the evil flying enemies..
It's waaaay to unbalenced with how fast the enemies are and its even more ridiculous when they have shields and fly at you
This game is really fun and I'd say 4/5 is a good score for it, but PLEASE do something to balence the AA towers and its targets!
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Level 8 was hard, but I like that it's hard. So are a lot of the levels. Normally, I would walk through a TD game like this, but this one requires a lot of thought and planning to beat a level with a perfect. You have to strategize in terms of layout, economy, and wave composition. All around I think this is one of the best I have ever played.
In case you need that in internet speak -- yallz a bunch of whiney ass bitches.
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i wish after each round you could tell which way you want the towers to face so they can spend more time shooting and less time turning around to face the enemy but aside from that 5/5
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After reading some of the top comments I was wary to say anything about AA turrets, but...
When 6 level 2 AA turrets can hardly take down 1 air unit, that's a little ridiculous. They're completely useless.
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Ground turrets are far, far too slow - cannons just plain don't hit anything, and enemies can often run right past your mounted guns while they turn.
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A quick tip for the developer: when your entire userbase complains about something, that's a problem. You don't brush it off by telling them to grind more, _especially_ when your suggested mode of grinding doesn't work because upgrades are dependent on the number of enemies you kill in previous waves.
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I hate having to do multiple things in a level just so I can have all the towers, and there arent very many waves for me to get ALL towers. and not enough money either. should be some upgrades.