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Twice Exceptional: I am sending you some pms to hopefully help you get started with the game. Feel free to pm me with any questions you may have.
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So about the third playthrough in, I finally remember to equip ammo when I buy it, learn the mechanics and read through a walkthrough... Sell some leather, get about 3k, and buy shows for D city... 3rd batch of bandits that hit me, 23 men with guns ranging from pistols to grenades, 5 cars, and about 4 horsecarts... Foo
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Kingskybomber14, sorry I didn't check the comments sooner. Yes, this is a great game. I will pm you with pointers and will try to answer any questions you have. And if you wish, I can help you by walking you through the start of the game. Anyone is welcome to pm me for whatever help they need regarding this game.
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@kingskybomber make sure ur rifle has enough ammo, and in the character stats assign high physical strength. Also, don't try to go out of the triangle trade route region (poca-cosa, drushlak, caganel) as robbers outside are far more difficult. Give ur help a rifle if you can afford it
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I tried to start twice, and both times I got assaulted by robbers with 3+ people that outnumbered and easily killed me and my hired help. And the tutorial button leads to a 404 not found. I'm sure it's probably a great game once you get going, but that doesn't matter to me if I can't play it.
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JohnKeithTaguba: yes, wealth does regenerate over time. But the more you wipe out the town, the longer it will take to recover (of course, some towns are richer and will recoup faster).
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I went around selling jewelry to cities for 4000 dollars each and then bought them back for 700 dollars each. This led to each city having 0 wealth for each citizen. Does wealth regenerate over time?
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Part 1 of 2: Fuel usage is Arctic Cat-3, Yamaha Raptor-6, Land Rover-15, Jeep-25, and Hummer-28. People need to decide whether they want a vehicle which carries multiple people or individuals. I have never heard of anyone who prefers a Jeep. For only one extra person, yet double fuel usage, the Hummer isn't preferable to the Land Rover. For those who choose a vehicle for only one person, if they have animals, they use the Arctic Cat, but if not, they may use the Yamaha to travel faster, which is the other consideration (these gamers mostly battle, and do limited trading). If you notice the numbers, the only one which beats the fuel usage of the Land Rover is the Arctic Cat, but not by much (3 x 4 people is 12). So the problem isn't the vehicle, it is having enough fuel. (I did warn you about this, and in Comments there is limited space, so I shouldn't expound as much.)
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Part 2 of 2: Do you have thousands of liters of fuel? Know that the only cities which make fuel are Hara and Smerd. And if you don't bring crude oil to Smerd, it may not make fuel for you (this may also happen with Hara at times). This is part of the reason that I end up with hundreds of horses, usually 200 to 300 (but then you need to manage having enough forage). Of course, part of the reason I have so many horses is because I also like to be able to have a full supply of goods to trade along my route as I like making lots of money. In addition, I make sure to have at minimum 4000 liters of fuel before heading back to the southeastern area, and I normally have more as I never want to run out (it has never happened to me). I even sell some fuel to those towns which don't use fuel as a back-up in case I get forgetful (because I was managing forage) and realize that I am running low. To sum up, one needs to pay attention to and make plans for their fuel [and forage] needs.
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uh any advice for cars? Fuel finishes really fast, i tried the land rover defender but had to sell it (or abandon it in the desert)
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To save, there is a wrench button on the bottom right of the page when you are outside of a city (either travelling or ready to travel). Just press for options. There will be five slots to choose from.
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Dhruv9, I am happy to help. Due to space limitations, I did try to keep the info short, so I wasn't able to expound too much, but I am glad that it has helped you. Some of the best items, such as the M24 SWS, can only be found in either Qubba or Fort Goks (which, with the exception of vehicles, is the more affordable place for those items). You didn't mention, but I hope that you have some grenades as back-up weapons as they are essential when the bandits start near you. You are welcome to pm me with any further questions (where it is easier to give more detailed information, if you prefer). Good luck! :)
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@J617 thank you for so much info! I have equipped my caravan with a variation of m4, m14 and ak 101, and I am able to fight most robbers. I can't find the m24 sws in my regions though, is it in qubba?
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Postscript: I forgot to cover one of the subjects you referenced. Both the abilities of your people and your strategy in battle makes a huge difference. I prepare myself (and my teammates) in battle my two plus times around the three towns. The most important ability to improve while around these three towns is to improve your agility, which affects how far you can walk, how many times you can shoot, and the order one gets their turn in battle. The more you walk in battle, the more this number increases, so walk a lot, making the bandit(s) chase you. For novices to the game I do recommend starting the game with 9, 8, 7, 1, unless you are very strategical, at which point, physical shape is the most important number to increase (as it takes time to increase), followed by agility. Accuracy can be improved easily by shooting bandits, so if you know how to retreat in battle, this number can be reduced (intelligence is unimportant in this game as you can rely on others for that).
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Part 1 of 3: Dhruv9, You are very welcome. I have seen people list different weapons as what they consider the best, but for me, there is none better than the M24 SWS combined with either the RPG 7 or the M67 (depending on the characters' abilities). At the start of the game, I consider the M1 Garand, followed closely by the Springfield M1903 to be the best weapons. I also use the Katanas which I get from the bandits as my backup weapons until I purchase better. It is preferable to give a rifle to each person in your group over having two in your possession. Since you are at Verdammter Platz, grenades are the most essential to buy. Purchase all the F-1s you can (I usually purchase all those available in both Verdammter Platz and Diep Gat). If there are too few available, you may need to purchase some of the MK IIs upon arriving in Diep Gat. Give some to each person as their back-up weapon.
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Part 2 of 3: At this point in the game, grenades are truly the easiest way to save lives on your push for Qubba (this first journey there will be one of your hardest in the game). If you have the money, the best rifles in either area are probably either the M4 or the M14. Many prefer the M4, but I am more likely to purchase the M14 as it has more damage potential, is more affordable, and uses the same ammo which I will be purchasing for my M24 SWS. (I normally buy one or two of those and give them to the best people for the job.) There are a few other choices but avoid purchasing handguns or even shotguns, as they really do not compare. Besides looking at rifles, the main info to peruse is damage and accuracy, as long as both the range and capacity is decent (otherwise your current weapons are a better choice). So the only other possibilities I see located there are the M16, the AK 101, and the Baretta Cx4 Storm. Purchase whichever suits you better.
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Part 3 of 3: If you didn't hire many people to travel to Verdammter Platz with you, you may wish to hire some people along your journey. Just remember, that most vehicles hold limited people, so you may wish to avoid hiring too many. Since I purchase the Land Rover Defender vehicles, which hold 4 people each, I usually have no more than eight people in my group before arriving in Qubba.
Since you have animals I hope you brought enough forage for you to get to Kulin. Some times you won't find forage along your trip there. Luckily, the majority of games you will often find plenty in Diep Gat (occasionally also in Verdammter Platz). If you didn't prepare, hopefully this will be one of those games for you. Remember, if you are planning on exchanging another animal for a horse along the journey (you won't find any animals in Hara), you will need to account for the extra forage needs for horses. People are welcome to pm me with any questions they have regarding this game.
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@J617 ty for clearing that up. btw, can you tell what are the best weapons in this game? I am barely able to make the journey to verdammter platz
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To clear up any questions, in this game animals are solely pack animals (one can not ride them). The fastest speed one can travel is the same as either the slowest animal or person walking or riding in a vehicle. Keep in mind that every person needs to be able to ride in a vehicle to travel the speed of the vehicles (these can be purchased in more distant towns). Ergo, if you have vehicles and mules, your speed will still only be 5 mph. FYI, later in the storyline, you can not accomplish a particular task if you are only traveling 5 mph. Thus, if you use animals (such as I do), even if you start with a slower animal, at some point, you will need to sell those animals for horses (I accomplish this by selling my mule(s) along my first journey towards the NW area, so that I will be able to travel fast when I purchase my desired vehicles). Remember to purchase containers for fuel and fuel along the way, and never run out of fuel or you will have to abandon your vehicles.
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@numerek i had horses but it still going at 5 km/h. I think it is because of the slowest person in my caravan, and unlike caravaneer 2 i am unable to assign passengers
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For the people saying you can't ride the animals, your caravan moves as fast as the slowest animal. So if you want to move horse speed you need to have only horses.
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PeterWR, this is why I leave the character on Martin Milloshi, use the picture of Selma Nilsson, and adjust the points how I prefer.
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There is a little bug in the start up when you choose your character. The character Selma Nilsson only havde 23 ability point. All the other characters havde 25 ability points. So she is cheated for 2 ability points. And are thus the hardest character to play the game with.
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i wish instead of per month the demand/supply and import/export would happen per day, it would enable us to trade more
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I have never tried to count the steps needed to improve agility. It seems to me as though those with lesser agility increase faster than those with higher agility, but that may just be my impression. I know of no cap. Besides the start of the game, where I don't move them in such an organized fashion or have them walk for so long, later in the game I take my whole group and have them line up in their turn order so that they are organized. I then take the weaker players and move them one after the other, following each other in a line. This organization allows the turns to happen faster, so that I am not walking my people for quite so long. (part 2 continued ...)
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… Meanwhile, against these easier bandits, I have those with the lesser accuracy do the shooting, to help improve their accuracy. Instead of counting steps, if you have a larger group, maybe think more on the order of moving them for something on the order of half an hour at a time.... Yes, this type of walking can be quite boring, but it does help with advancing agility without having to fight so many bandits before enhancement, and this allows the weaker players to more readily improve.
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question: about how many steps do i have to take to gain an agility point? im currently in a battle with all but one enemy(with a knife) dead, and im having my people run around to try to increase agility. How many steps (approximate) per agility point? is there a cap?
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In this game, animals are used solely as pack animals, so you can't ride them. I normally start with mules, but later, when around Qubba, I sell those for horses, both so that I can go faster when I purchase vehicles, and most importantly, because when following the storyline, later in the game, you cannot accomplish one of the tasks going only 5 mph. Normally, in the initial three town area, there are two to four robbers, but every once in awhile, some bandits overlap their area and stray into these towns (not often). When you leave these towns, be prepared for more bandits in a group, with deadlier weapons. The closer one gets to Qubba, the more powerful these groups are. Until you are prepared to fight wave upon wave of large vehicled groups of bandits, do not journey towards those two towns in the northeastern area.
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ahh, just killed the 6 robbers, i wish i could sell katanas within the safe-ish zone, i have 15 of them, i'd make thousands
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wow i just got purchased 4 mules with carts and as soon as i left town there were 6 robbers chasing me, instead of the usual one. i can take them, just saying that wow having more animals attracts a lot of robbers
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umm i got horses so i could go 15km an hr, but since i cant ride them for some reason i still go 6 km an hr. Is there a way to ride them, or does it not matter how fast they go if im slow?
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Tonaldhump, these are the stats:
Physical Shape affects both your heath and your strength. Your health is the amount of life you have. The larger that number the longer it takes for your opponent to kill you; this number can never increase. Your strength is how much one can carry, and how far one can throw grenades. This increases only very slowly through the game, over time (you can do nothing else to affect this). To summarize, this is the most important option to select the number as high as possible.
Agility affects how far you can walk, and thusly, how many times you can shoot. It also affects the order one gets their turn in battle. But the more you walk in battle, the more this number increases. This number you can easily increase.
Accuracy is how accurate you are at shooting (FYI, 100 doesn't guarantee never missing). This number increases the more you shoot. This number you can also easily increase. (part 2 continued ...)
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Intelligence is not important in this game (unlike most games). It just adds very slightly to healing and mechanic repair. Count on those you later hire to help with this instead. Because of this, always set Intelligence at 1.
The aforementioned is for those who actually want to play the game, not just get the one badge (which can be earned near the start of the game). If one doesn't want to get to actually know the game, and just wants the badge, place Physical Shape as the third most important, and consider Agility and Accuracy the most important. (But remember, if you only select Physical Shape as four, you will only have forty health, so you might like the number to be a 5 or a 6, at minimum).
If anyone has any question regarding this game you are welcome to pm me. If anyone needs any more help, I am also happy to help you walk-through the game or simply just the early part to get you started.
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what does each stat do? trying to increase my max hp when i start cause every time i start from the time i get from poca cosa to caganel i get attacked by about 11 robbers, and by the time i get back im dead
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My father was a caravaneer, one of the best... yet his entire estate was one donkey, one basic rifle, and less money than the price of another one.
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You know you have enough money if you have 1 camel, 3 mules, 3 small wooden carts, 1997 meds, 372 shirts, 100 forage, 3 men, 2 rifles, 1 shotgun, a deagle, 1 berretta pistol, 2 browning HPs, 35.46ML water and idk how much food, im in a fight... lol
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Fun fact: The only song that plays, named New Tomorrow, is based off the Tuvan song kazhan tören karam bolur. Kazhan tören karam bolur roughly translates to the saying; "To acquire and overlook one's relatives' livestock." It's an amazing callback to the begin of that game in which you inherit (acquire) your uncles' (relative) donkey (Livestock). PS: I love this game, can't get enough of it.
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Rakc, the tutorial link for this game has not worked for awhile, but anyone with questions is welcome to pm me directly. And for those who need more help, if we can find a mutual time, I am even happy to help walk you through or simply get started in the game. This is my favorite game after all. :)