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@ih8regin - you can eventually get Pet XP up quickly enough that the climb to T3 Lv 300+ is fairly short. Ignoring the first exile I can get them, it is now sub-hour, and often less than 5 minutes.
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@3xpr3ss I'm on my second realm, rocking with Archon, e670 mysts atm, didn't choose another class except for achievement. T2 pet on archon is great, T3 not so great although if you get it to 325, it'll be better than T2. Spellcraft rules (inc effectiveness FTW), and first class was Necromancer until Archon.
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@arkadisevyan, you needed at least 1e400 mysteries, so you can change realms, which then gives you memories on doing so.
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Just got the hard badge and I feel pretty done with this game. But it has been a good game, it has a lot to offer. I enjoyed the challenges and exploring the different classes. After you've completed all challenges I recommend checking the wiki for the secret achievements as they are like mini-challenges.
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@LeMonk212, as for me it took 2-3 realms to get e550 (T3 pets), that was damn hard. But then T3 pet rocketed me to e650 in the same realm. I'm using Heretic only till the first realm. 5 gear sets, almost all attributes maxed exept Wisdom (0), Empathy (100, just to get 175 with Bites and use all the pet exp set) and Versality. Spellcraft was the last dumping stat.
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I've used Commissar's torn a bit with Oni. Nice item till about e600+ mysts, maybe less (if you can ride legendary carpet), but later on you have enough atts naturally. So, you can save some att points and still get perks. Pure points are almost useless due diminishing returns, but perks are cool sometimes. Badly, there's no options to save attribute patterns and it's damn boring to mess with points. Maybe you can get more from Commissar's torn mixing it with Geode, Ley keeper or Chimaera and dumping points in Versality, but ... i've found Oni too complex.
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@LeMonk212- You need 600 attribute points and Paragon 21 to use Commisar's torn sleeve, so Demonologist would not get a lot of use out of it. It is apparently very useful for Oni, though.
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@LeMonk212 imho Archon and Oni/Demologist are the only classes that can make use from comissar's scroll. It's not owerpowered.
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@3xp3ss The auto expedition really is a must have. for doing realm changes. But yes the bat catcher first as i mentioned. My mistake was the standard upg lvl 1 before i got the others. And well the first weeks of played i didnt know there where red and green dust jars because they where hidden behind the screens. So yea i lost lots of dust crafting those colors. I just hit myst e800, took me 4d7h going from e720 to e800. Im at the endgame of this realm, change coming soon. But at this lvl i earn 5-6k memmories every day. temptiing to just farm for 10 days.
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@Aelendril be prodigy, equip True Sorcery and craft+wear equipment that grants character xp from sources/actions/else. Archivist IMHO as pet, so you might as well gain some mysts. Same for 220 and likely 240 when you reach those milestones, although Temporalist could be better then.
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@Tecit, Chiropteric (maxed) calls a bat in 12m in default. Maybe weapon charging pants will speed this up. Finally i've decided to spend dust - too hard buffing with manual batsm anyway. That was my mistake to spend Relics on auto expeditions, not bathunter :)
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3xpr3ss I need to play heretic some more. When you hit paragon 34 and get void memetics, it should boost heretic. I hope the general advice post i made gives some help. I would not do a realm change without the auto expedition, catalyst gain.
How long does it take for the chiro rod wep to create 1 bat? Maybe something like the crystal ball wep would give a spell cast gain that is worth more, compared to time spend with each wep active time. Maybe do spend the dust on buffs = rune gain = trial gain = lots of bonus like faster bat gain.
Each exile added to total also gives a bonus, Just cant remember where. But a perma buff in the current realm run.
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@3xpr3ss Its allways diffecult to follow someones writing unless the item name is also followed with what kind it is, as weapon Redemer. But yes makes sense now, i understand the point, chiro rod is for the buffs from bats collected with it. As to not spend dust on buffs. Redeemer really is the weapon for heretics. I havent tried it that much but have it upg max. I did not spend dust on buffs until hmm realm change with the 160k mems. Didnt need to, but been doing it every day since then, i guess i just buffed my dust gain enough, to do so. 1-2 times/day 5-10k yellow dust spend. the flow of archon earning mana then switching to xp upg gear for xx hours after buff runs out. The all eater doesnt work for me unless i use void gear, its like 5 times more from void.
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@Tecit, i plan to use Chiropteric just to get some buffs form bats, that temporary ones. All-eater suxx for Heretic, even with void gear and his special void spells. I think it get more from casts then pure VM, even with Voidterror. Redeemer shines for me, despite the class suffer till about 1-2e6 memory.
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3xpr3ss crono rod, is it really worth it? mine is zero upg, caught 107 bats this exile, gives 34k profit bonus.
My all eater is max upg, ench to lvl 20. gives 70 million bonus. Just try the all eater where you buff it while using max void gear. It seems the rod, even with 107 bats caught in 24 hours, is so much weaker. ofcourse the bonus could be better if i had it upg, but then again, have a try.
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General advice. Save up for shop bought upg. 1: Bat collector, 2: auto expedition, 3: standard upg, 4: standard upg 2.
Memory/realm upg. ofcourse depends on total points and what is available. But go for "foundation" upg for easier realm change. = auto or faster trial completing,faster runes, and some extra dust. And "tools" bold followers = faster auto expedition. The rest of my points are spread out where the bonus/points seems to give the best benefits for the cost. example, 30 days since last realm change, ive maxed my completed trials at 400, getting all the bonuses, but only done 147 total. saving up runes to my soft cap of 30 before doing realm change. Preparing that way for a quicker realm change power return. same way i save up blue dust for exile change, because i use the "enigmatic parchment" offhand gear, so after exile i spend the saved 5-20k bule dust to get ench dust, that gives the parchment currently 120k char ability bonus.
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@LeMonk212 I will say Archon is the best. have equipment setups. 1: mana, 2: void. 3: xp, 4: crafting/dust. switch between them and use spells that benefit each setup. Archon has a fast mana gain but also long term constant bonus growth.
Shaman has too many spells and its really the necro ones that boost it. The gear upg is summoning, so spending dust on that limits your play to that.
The oni, well 3 settings x 3 gear setups, its madness.
desolator seems useless. Temporist, i tried with some of its specialized gear upg, hundreds of years skipped in time, nothing really came of it. Archon instant power + growth seems soo much more powerful, even over time. Heretic, maybe has potential, but even though i have void gear max and enchanted to lvl 20 with archon use, heretic still seems slow, no not having the permanet growth of archon. realm change 30 days ago at 160k mem. now im at 160k more if i realm change. but it allso grows 6k/day. Its a balance, archon just seems the best choice.
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@LeMonk212 - In theory, assuming you have the best equipment for the class all at Epic+ and limitless time to play actively, it looks like it is probably the Temporalist. The Archon requires less (particularly in active play), but it is slower in the best case. My main source: https://idle-wizard.fandom.com/wiki/Class_Timescaling_Guide
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If i max Chiropteric Rod (12m to bat) and equip
Temporal Scabbard (100% weapon charge speed), there will be 6m bats? I want maxed buffs before burst and tired to spend yellow dust.
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What t focus on for memories depends a lot on youor preferred class. For Archon, Remembering Complexity is very strong. Forefather's Wor and Muscle memory are also very nice. Recalling Power is pretty good.
That said, by now (2e5 memories), I have also maxed Reclaimed Methods
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Ih8regin, its all a balance on when the limit is reached regarding realm change, got 160k memories, will get 132k now if i change. I set some goals, wanted to do x2 or x3, doubt that is realistic. so now my goal is atleast myst e800, at e779 now, 8 days or so to go. currently 23d20h since last realm change. other goal is getting shop upg stanard upg to 2, to get 2nd god selection. As that will make regain after realm change easier again.
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Ih8regin Yes i pushed to lvl 220 for legacy boost, now stuck at 49. I Have considdered other classes, but so much says archon is the best. Many of them have the strangest/too many spells to pick from compared to spell slots. Archon has so many possibilities, quick growth and then all the perma buffs over time. The other classes lack one or the other play style. I have tried to boost The accumulator weapon rather then all eater, but havent upg it to max, so for now it seems really bad compared to all eater, however with JMS it grows really fast. Its more a end game/realm change stuck situation. Pushing for void memetics growth, n2 and n3 need to be lvl 15. at myst e770. 2d3h myst e6 growth. Realm change has to make sense, loosing all pantheon and more is a great cost.
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And if you're really stuck with archon, perhaps it's time to check other T2 classes, it's possible that say Oni can be pulled up to par within two days, or Shaman, although I feel like AC builds being orders worse than spell-based ones. I tried temporalist but it didn't grow as well as archon, but it's good to amp legacy if you're stuck on character level stage.
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@Tecit blue cats work like (1+bonus)^quantity, so those 4.96% are given each time you upgrade a blue cat, and 1.0496^186=8136.xxx so kinda matched, after all the displayed value is rounded, and rounding a base for exponent gives a lot of error for actual value. The Head is charged for log(mana)*log(void mana)*log(casts+VE+AC) (with coefficients) so with that many casts JMS offers there's no need amping either VE or AC, but void mana is required indeed.
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Ih8regin, my mana income spell setup is, missile storm, radiant pool, syphon power, nullzone, fire with fire, karnaphens spellshroud. weapon all eater. I imagine you use the same and found it its about e2 higher then Debilitate with speelstealer. That is if all eater is setup with voind gear. and yes i switch to void gear to max my void then income gear. getting a little Deb buff or other while geathering void. But i also got XP gear setup where i change the spells a bit to get all buffed up like tempered arcanomancy is at 1.56Qi%. JMS is perma on spellslot for the casts and switching it all up with gear doing spell buffs. It all stacks but still getting stuck at this lvl.
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Ih8regin i noticed green cats say 926 + 189.00% = total 175.20k% my blue cats now say 196 x 4.96% = total 1.32M%
Notice the green is a + while blue is x.
But before i got catalyst memetics unlocked the blue where like half or worse then green in the total bonus. Some f up math going on. Gettting 300k + amounts of catalyst overnight atm, it hardly does anything.
well theres +20k% income at e1500, then 400% offline income at e1564 and then next 20k% income at e1591. So from e1400 its all memetics bonus and that only comes from craft dust. Pantheon becomes a tiny bonus that takes days to make a dent. spend my 4x 36 hour time boost, so now i earned e4 myst in 1d11h. The Deb+Cs gave me a boost earlier. But out of real options now, its too early to do another realm change.
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@Tecit exponential buff is never useless, and blue cats are exactly that. Re Head of All-eater, yep I tried and found out JMS really caps Deb after several hours, so I now spam Deb+CS while gathering void mana. And thanks for warning, getting close (e1200 mana).
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@ih8regin the math in this game is a total mess. Theres no way to predict anything without testing it, like gear combinations with different bonuses, char/pet/income/incan/evo.
Heres and example after i got catalyst memetics unlocked, Blue catalyst used to be useless. look at this on my arcanaspring.
Green 889 x 153% = 136.02k%
Blue 186 x 4.96% = 815.34K%