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July 25 weaponless goes to iMiPi! Post your map iMiPi. I failed in about 4 tries... curious to see what I missed. I was always about 2 seconds short. Good call on that as a challenge chilese.
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i just could not leave this alone :) july 25 without weapons in 2:28 http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7963/9klm.jpg http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7600/oe3e.jpg
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July 25th with no weapons? A nice idea :) Thanks! Was fun to do! :D I have made a few technical failures and so it took 1:32 - a little longer than it should be. You should get sub 1:30 If you play flawless. First i only give you the proof i did it without weapons and you tell me if you want to see the spoiler map layouts http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3238/70q.jpg http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4673/b9nj.jpg
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July 25th w/o weapons also looks like impossible, filled around 80% of last totem before those collector gone away under water =( . With weapons 1:42
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You 2 guys humble me every time. CHALLENGE: (Probably impossible) July 25th with no weapons. I got close, but the creeper always broke my last collector before activation. I ended up with a 3:37 using weapons for my first with weapon time.
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Oops! Mentida (inadvertent). That was my fourth attempt (not counting the abandoned one, which I guess technically makes 5). fwiw My times were 4:47, 4:00, (abandoned failure), 3:54, 3:53.
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I like a challenge, chilese. 3:53 (also my third attempt, with one "abandoned" attempt, and I shaved a whole second off between the 2nd and 3rd). http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/9796/oxuz.jpg And I didn't look at your map until after, iMiPi. Very similar of course, but with one major difference. I'll save my map post as a spoiler if necessary.
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4:45, first attempt on july 24 http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1720/t65k.jpg http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/643/8fcn.jpg and i'm sure some of you can do better :) have fun!
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@Stotty652: if this is too hard for you, check the first 3 versions of the game before you play this one. the first version is named "Creeper World Training Sim" here: http://www.kongregate.com/games/whiteboardwar/creeper-world-training-sim ...the second "Creeper World: User Space" here: http://www.kongregate.com/games/whiteboardwar/creeper-world-user-space ...the third "Creeper World 2: Academy" here: http://www.kongregate.com/games/whiteboardwar/creeper-world-2-academy ...after that you will be able to play "Creeper World: Evermore" ...the CW:E missions are not always tough. actually you can finish some in about 70 seconds, but only if you KNOW what to do. so... get your butt to the training, private! :)
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July 24. 5 minutes even on my 3rd attempt. The Challenge. Show me how its done gentlemen ( and ladies if you are present ).
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@Stotty, this version of the game is really just designed for people that have a good foundation and just like playing lots of levels. Try Creeperworld user space for a more linear approach to understanding the game. There is a link just above
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@stotty652 wow, really? I never willingly do tutorials in a game unless it's some complicated RTS (like homeworld). But this game is pretty straightforward. after a few minutes of experimentation you should figure out what everything does. And as to the spores, all you needed was a healthy wall of SAMs, the spores wouldn't make it halfway to the nearest reactor.
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to be honest, the tutorial doesn't cover more than a third of the buildings available, and having played for half an hour and not beating a single level, I struggle to see how there is a way to win, especially with the spore attack that wipes out EVERYTHING you've built as the creepers 'creep' way to fast and back you into a corner so you have to centralise everything!!!
In conclusion, I hate this game.
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@chilese: as i said, this wasn't serious testing. on some maps it will be better to chose the 20% build speed upgrade over the 10% energy upgrade. it's just rare. it sounds contradictory at first. but think about when do the 2 upgrades take effect: the 10% energy upgrade is ALWAYS on. the 20% build speed upgrade is only on IF you build and WHEN you build. it only makes the build packets come out 20% faster from the city, so you still have to wait for the last packet to travel with normal speed to the building site, and only after that you can send new packets there - and use the 20% bonus only for the production time from the first packet to the last.
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@iMiPi: Thanks. I am very surprised that the +20% isn't a better first choice. Obviously, my logic is faulty. My education continues. :-)
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@chilese: WARNING: i just made this for fun. it's not serious testing. i was too tired to do it as it should be done: FIRST TRY, 20% build bonus, 6:31, score 9020: http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/6661/u9gr.jpg http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/7775/ek0f.jpg http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/9327/1vj6.jpg http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/6600/j82.jpg http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/483/gpfc.jpg and SECOND TRY, 10% energy bonus, 6:12, score 9063: http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/6894/wh7c.jpg http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/3420/6t0b.jpg http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/7220/qqli.jpg http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/2608/sfcr.jpg http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4601/8y3i.jpg WHY was this not serious testing? obviously, i should try many times on both upgrades to get excellent times on both. i didn't. so, don't take this too seriously :)
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@iMiPi: I have a favor to ask. Would you do the build speed upgrade vs. energy upgrade experiment on July 22? I went from 8420 to 8666. I'm sure you'll crush my time either way. No drones if you'd like to make the experiment more dramatic. Thanks.
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@SmileyFaucet: use the pause: key "p" or click on the pause button. @chilese: mostly it's better NOT to build near the first location of the city, except on some rare maps.
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@chilese: the july 13 map is a good example for the 10% energy upgrade being better than the 20% speed bonus. there we had to build just a very few structures, and needed to load the blaster and totems simultaneously at the end. therefore 10% more energy was better by 3 seconds game time. with the 20% build bonus only in 1:40 http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7295/0fkp.jpg http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2705/yq4g.jpg http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7544/mi2v.jpg but with the 10% energy bonus in just 1:37 http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2483/0o7l.jpg http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/7794/u2kb.jpg http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3572/ekxn.jpg
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Could you stop it from going into survival mode after 60 minutes? I play the game really slowly while doing other stuff and it's very annoying to have your sprawling networks of reactors destroyed in 2 seconds through no fault of your own.
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Question of the game for all you time-junkies™. Is it better to build some collectors and move over them or to just move the city to its best spot and build from there? My best time on July 20 (3:36) came from moving the city immediately, but I am open to all of your insights.
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@Lyndon re Jul 14 Nothing special I thought. Two city moves (one was trivial right at the end), two drones, and 5 blasters to punch. I have an image but imageshack seems to be having technical difficulties right now. Regarding upgrades, I think I disagree on the choices others are making; I usually choose 10% cheaper 1st, 10% production 2nd, and then #3 depends on the map... but I can't back that up empirically.
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@iMiPi: It appears you have given yourself a challenge. Find a map where you can quickly collect 1 (and only 1) upgrade. Defeat the evil creeper in your usual fashion and compare the 2 times. If you do this on a couple of maps. My gut feel is that the 20% build speed (acquired quickly) is the best choice always. I would rather have 12 collectors at normal production (call it 12 x 100 = 1200) instead of 10 units at heightened production (call it 10 x 110 = 1100). But, I am open to continuing my education under your tutelage on this subject. :-)
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@LydonC: -10% cost never beats +10% production. you get the cost bonus only if you build, and you can not build all the time. but you produce energy mostly all the time :) a more interesting question is: what's better, the 20% build speed bonus or the 10% production. the answer depends on the actual map and your strategy.
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Nice, Lydon. You improved on my relays along the top, too. The first time I tried, I did a relay and two collectors up there, but two relays is better than that. Obviously, one of each is even better.
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Yeah, relays are good) changed base place and got 2:24 on July 17:
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1940/of3v.png
p.s. Does "-10% cost" beat "+10% production" on very early stage?
p.p.s. @FroztySilva, how did u beat July 14 under 5 minutes? I can only do 7 :)
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Excellent use of relays, coolpapa. I was happy with my 3:23 until I saw you beat 3 minutes, so I had to try. Could - not - do - it. Not until I looked at your map then did I see the relays jumping the creeper at the last plateau (I had been trying to fight through it). Brilliant. Sub-3 minutes was easy after that. This is why I like when people post their times and maps. I like what chilese did recently too - create a specific set of restrictions and issue a challenge under them. I wish I could upvote some of his observations more than once (his reference to me excluded).
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Whew. Got July 17 under 3 minutes. 2:56.
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/870/mlut.jpg
The upper-left upgrade turned out to be not worth the time, which shaved about 20 seconds off my previous time.
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@Zagzyg You can buy the original creeper world game and play an infinite amount of maps, AND support the developers! Double win!
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The ONLY reason I don't give this a 5 is that I can't turn off "survival" mode. Sometimes you just want to play around with a map, options, etc.
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There really needs to be some sort of archive longer than the 7 days, missing a great opportunity for people to meta game this
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@Selieno: Okay, I redid July 17 with the following self-imposed rules: Don't move the city. Don't use pause. No drones. Eliminate all creeper. Then I turned on the green packets. I did allow speed packets and I did allow movement of mortars and blasters. Here is a screenshot of the 9:35 time. I did make a few mistakes along the way, but left them in. Now you have something else to talk about. Thanks for the challenge. By the way, I'm not one of the super good players. :-) https://picasaweb.google.com/chilesej/Artwork#5901805418655423746
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@Selieno: I went back to July 17 and attempted the old school approach. No pause. No moving the city. No drones. Sadly, I forgot to turn off the green packets and the game ended. Yes, it does take longer, but it is still fun. Just a different type of fun. I am surprised that you are against moving combat units (blasters, mortars). That isn't cheating, it's normal military planning. You move your troops where they are needed. So I'll attempt this again without moving the city, no pause and no drones. I'll turn off the green packets until every drop of creeper is gone and all 5 emitters are capped. Then I'll end the game and hopefully post my score.
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@Selieno: It doesn't remove the challenge, it merely has a different goal, time. The game can be played many different ways: Least time, Remove all Creeper first, Survival, Without Pause, etc. The player gets to choose what method he wants to use. Sadly, the only mode that can be effectively shown is least time. It would be wonderful if we could choose setting and have our results displayed for that set of parameters, but the game does not allow that. In fact, I will often replay a level and go for a different goal, like total creeper removal. Im sure the truly good players, FroztySilva, iMiPi and others also play a level with different goals upon replay. What you suggest is that the only way we can compare methods is on a set of parameters you disagree with. That is certainly your opinion. In honor of your mild protest, I will go replay today's map (I got 3:23) with the intent of not leaving until all the creeper is gone.
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OK, 4:50 for Jul 14. Got that monkey off my back ;-) Any other game recs in this style anyone? My all-time favorite is/was DesktopTowerDefense v1.5, with CW1 being my second now.
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I thought that 1:39 could be beat, combining my play with LydonC's... good job, iMiPi. Anyone able to beat 5 minutes on July 14? (I haven't yet, and not sure it's possible, but I'm having fun trying.)
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i thought 1:39 could be the best possible time on july 13... well, i wasn't right :) 1:37 is possible too with the 10% energy upgrade http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2483/0o7l.jpg http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/7794/u2kb.jpg http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3572/ekxn.jpg previously i used the 20% build speed, but then there is too little power at the end.