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agreed on both points Escheton, Bagpuss must be an employee and the game is fun. But there are things about the game that doom it from ever getting a massive following. Id be willing to bet half of the players put tons of money into it just so they can play without being limited so much.
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what??? 1 ever 2 hours??? that crazy i'll go tobed at 1 wake up wat 11 and only have 5????thats bull shit thatl only take me 10 mins to use those up
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ah ha! I can 'recycle' cheracters in the guild hall...
btw, it looks better in full screen mode (which you can get to from their web site, which also starts a new game since it is a different cookie)
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the sheer size of your posts alone indicate that you are an employee of whatever company made the game not even counting the over the top boasting
but it is a fun game...
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Sorcery Quest is a REALLY great game! I started playing a few months ago and have become completely addicted – thank God for the turn system, otherwise I'd be on there all day!
This game is very light-hearted and fun, in the tradition of the great RPGs of old. Plenty to keep you going for months (if not years, with the extra content they keep adding) with far less grinding than some other free online RPGs I've come across.
(Apologies for the multi-posting – I couldn’t fit what I wanted to say into one post!)
The main thing about this game:
Sorcery Quest is for life, not just for a weekend!
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The turn system:
To begin with, I used up turns very quickly and was champing at the bit for the next chance to play but, as the game progresses, fights (and therefore turns) last for longer and there’s plenty to do that doesn't involve turns (like watching PvP fights in the ladder tournaments, which are run by automata – another great strategic gaming opportunity!).
Certainly the regenerating turn system is much better than some online RPGs that have time delay in moving between areas or doing quests or regenerating injuries or any of the other systems that put in place to make the gaming take longer. With SQ, as long as you have turns, you can play as fast or as slow as you like; then you come back tomorrow for more (or several days later if you want a big hit all at once!).
All in all, the turn system keeps me sane and, although it was frustrating to have to wait when I first started playing, that was just a sign of how great the game was!
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Paying for the game
For a long time, I didn’t pay anything and didn’t feel like I’d missed out. Sure, there were occasional treasure drops by monsters that I couldn’t take immediately but I eventually raised enough gold to buy them anyway.
After a while I realised that I was getting so much enjoyment out of the game that it was only fair to the developer that I give him something for his trouble, so I bought some tokens. $10 will get you 1,000 tokens, which is enough to pick up 40 pieces of rare loot (so that you don’t need to get the calculator out, that’s 25 cents each); I figured that was well worth it and a $10 investment lasts for ages. I don’t buy additional turns because I spend enough time playing already!
You could put in a load of money to get extra turns and premium items to level up as quickly as possible and whizz up the PvP ladders. But you don’t need to do that to get to the top – it may take a bit longer without paying, but it all balances out over time.
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The more I play the game the more I'm beginning to like it. I understand the necessity of the action points to keep the servers from overloading, but I would suggest a slightly faster regeneration speed.
well done and nice art
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also another thing i have noticed for those thinking of saving turns up is a turn limit. I haven't played since my first time and im on 48 turns since yesterday
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No it's not a matter of opinion at all. Either you're wrong or right. It's a question of fact. Nobody's trying to trick you, it's a simple bold-faced lie that a 3 year old could see through.
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axolotl sorry but I'm going to disagree with your disagreemant. I believe it is righteous and that is just a matter of opinion so I can see how only a few may agree. First I dont like someone trying to trick me into thinking something false, and I promise you that there will be many people some kids some who just dont think, but many people nonetheless who will spend there time beleiving what the developer said and realize after days that they wasted there time on a game where they were mislead. I'd like to think that hopefully some of them people will read the comments and can then make up there own mind after hearing a different viewpoint on the developers real intentions.
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I'm actually finding the game rather enjoyable. Yes I wish there were moer turns but I play a little a day or every couple days and it's fun.
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"NOTE: This game is meant to be played on a day-by-day basis, meaning you have a limited amount of actions you can do every day."
UNLESS YOU GIVE US MONEY, THEN YOU CAN PLAY ALL YOU GODDAMN WANT LOL! :DDDD
Sorry, had to take a shot at it again.
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""The game server is currently undergoing maintenance, please come back later."" -hours i was waiting ... boring...
1/5
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I see why it might tick you off about the game balancing, but that's how a lot of these P2P/F2P games hook F2P players. You should be proud that you're not stupid enough to shell out to protect your pride in some pointless online game, but I really don't think your anger here is righteous.
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See but my theory is that you are in fact complaining that you can't get something for nothing. Everyone's a hypocrite, really who gives a flying f***? It only matters if you hurt someone with it, which is not the case here.
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Game's nice, but how on earth do you progress with so few turns ? next spell in 20 levels, max 2 levels a day... all right I'll find another turn based I don't want to pay
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It is a nice game but the enemies don't feel like they are balanced for free players. Items cost much more than you can get by fighting early battles. The game seems to be set up so that the only way to progress at a decent speed is to buy gold and outfit your crew with the best gear and smash everything in sight. If it wasn't for the turn issue this could be countered by grinding. However with the limited number of turns a day there is no practical way to progress without buying tokens, which is probably intentional.
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And agrreed with you Obelisk. Kippy you need to learn to read before you make a statement and not be some robot who just jumps into a conversation and just starts repeating what everyone else is saying. There is logic behind both mine and Obelisks words you just got to look. It may be harder for you then others but just keep working at it and soon you will be able to upgrade that robot brain to a more improved one. Now I'm not saying you are going to be smart or anything but just keep hanging in there and you will reach your goal one day.
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I think we hurt po lil kippies heart. Maybe we should stop pointing out the obvious and allow all of these ignorant fools believe what they are told to believe.
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and ccloo get a clue. There Philosphy is a lie. And while are whining might not change anything from there side at least people like us who may decide to read the comment section before they play will realize that its just a waste of there time. And if all of the whining I'm doing causes 1 person to not play this game, then guess what , I'm a happy man.
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So that is what my problem is. I can deal with the fact the developer wants to make money and that the turns are not free. But I do not like when a developer tries to manipulate fans of his games into thinking one way when the fact is really something different. And for those that do like the turned based system, you probally dont know there will come a time when you reach a chest, find a really powerful weapon, and must purchase it to obtain it. Which is just another point showing you how wrong the developers statement is. Fact is that the players with these superior weapons will sit on top of the leaderboards while the ones without the cash will sit at the bottom.
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But then he decides to allows people to buy however many turns they want and to allow those same people to do the things that the developer stated would not happen and that is how he inteded it to be. I'm sure I could have worded it much better but can you not see the Hypcrocity and deciet in that? That is where my problem is.If the developer really cared about giving everyone a fair shot which he stated was his sole intention in why he made the game the way he did, then he would either A. Not allow people to buy turns so they can rush up the leaderboards while the rest of us who cant afford it sit at the bottom.
B. He could make all of the turns free so everyone has an equal shot at reaching the top of the leaderboards.
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axelot my friend you are missing the point. Had you read through what I wrote I clearly stated that my beef wasn't with them trying to make money but rather the decietful ways they are marketing it to others out there. If you would have completely read my post then you would have known that. Because I don't have a problem with a developer laboring hours and hours on a game and they might want some money to compensate for it. But they are trying to decieve everyone by stating that the developer put the game this way in turn format because he wanted it to be a more casual experience. He then goes on to say that if he had given everyone free turns then whoever played the most all nighters would be at the top of the leader board.......... continued in next comment
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.. Er. Honestly? I can't think of anything to say about that, kippy. That's.. just.. it's so completely unrelated to what I've been saying this whole time. It's like you haven't even read my arguments and just classified me as a pissy whiner.
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i agree with axo the game developers dont have to make games. niether do they have to make the games free for you to play so stop whining.
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And finally, there's another word for that "philosophy" of yours. It's called not listening to your target audience and driving people away.
I'd like to bring up once again that I would love to play this game if I didn't have to wait a a full 24 hours to get about 10 minutes of playtime.
Also, once again, premium items = no balance. Stop bullshitting about the balance stuff when you go and offer more turns and fancy items for real money. F2P games can never have balance no matter what you do. If a F2P game has premium content, there's virtually nothing you can do to make balance, especially with this game. Newbies will never catch up to veterans without paying money. Where's the balance? If someone wants to, they can spend a bunch of money and grind day in and day out. Where's the casual factor?
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Also, someone with unlimited turns COULD catch up to a veteran player that didn't have unlimited turns in a smaller amount of time. Let's think for a second. I know, it's probably a bit strenuous for you, but try and stay with me here.
If you get 12 turns every 24 hours and someone has been playing for, say, 90 days, that means they have used 1080 turns. If a new player has unlimited turns, they can probably use up those 1080 turns over the course of a week, tops.
Get it? A newbie can catch up to a veteran easily if they are pathetic enough to buy more turns. Balance. Broken. Case. Closed.
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ccl0o: FOR LACK. OF. A. BETTER. WORD. HOW MANY TIMES MUST I SAY IT. SCAM IS A BAD WORD. I DIDN'T USE A GOOD TERM FOR THIS SITUATION. I'M STUPID AND I FAIL FOR THAT. MOVE ON PLEASE.
As for the rest of the stuff you said, you're still managing to miss the point, somehow. This isn't about having the choice to play casually or in a more hardcore gamer fashion. This is about the developers saying the turn regeneration system is for balance, even when they say "OH BUT YOU CAN PLAY ALL THE TIME IF YOU WANT. JUST GIVE US MONEY. :)" And there can't be balance when you limit new players as much as veterans because the new players will never catch up. Please get it through your thick skull that I'm just trying to say that these people can't keep pulling the "balance" card out of their asses. It just doesn't work.
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Max480: It isn't spam if it's something that contributes to an argument or conversation. Learn your terminology.
Axolotl: I have NO problems with premium content. I'm aware that companies with F2P games have to do that kind of stuff to keep above the surface and I'm 100% okay with that. What I'm NOT okay with is providing premium content that breaks reasoning behind a shit turn regeneration system. You seem to be avoiding the fact that they say the turn system is for balance and to make the game casual, but then offer more turns for money. Balance broken. Case closed.
I'm fine with offering more turns for money if they would ADMIT that the turn system can't be backed up by saying it's for time regulation or balance whenever they offer an opportunity to break that balance.
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If you wanna be pissed, be pissed on behalf of the programmers who are probably working for someone who doesn't know shit about game development and getting paid half the value of their work.
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Erock. You're missing the point, so let me be more blunt. Guys like you and Obelisk, or whatever his name is, expect that everyone else is going to do nice things for you. Frankly, YOU are the ones that piss me off. The developer is out to make money. While it might not be the most noble thing in the world, still, they're actually making something, and then marketing it, just like EVERY OTHER company out there. Whether or not you enjoy the system is irrelevant. They aren't bad for giving you less free gaming than you wanted, they're good for giving you any at all.
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Does everyone get as much enjoyment as I do staring at my screen for 2 hours and then when I finally see that 1 turn has been added I go into shock and start seizing all over the place. Or is it just me?
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Also I'd like to add after going to there website that not only can you buy more turns if you have the cash but items also. And whats makes these items even more specialer is that these items you can buy will be encountered somewhere in the game. So pretty much you find a chest it has a special powerful upper tier Item in it. Time to get excited right. Maybe not because you didn't realize it has a $5.99 cent price tag on it. Guess you better just put your greatest find back in the treasure box. Wow whoever is the lucky one to find that will be excited when they realized they found a treasure chest that they have to add loot to.
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Lynixe you are absolutely wrong my friend. You are making the turn system to be better than what it is. For a casual gamer who may spend an hour playing or less a day, its still complete ungracious in the turn giving department. You get 12 turns a day which I would think could give you a max of 30 minutes of playing time but probally something closer to 10 or 15. I have absolutely no reason to come here, but the developer deserves an ear spanking so he getting it from me.
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Obelisk you are absolutely correct and I share your feeling for the develpers. I'd kick them in there nads if I could. As Obelisk said before and the developer on his website, Here is a quote from there website. It says the reason that they limit the turns is because they wanted it to be a casual experience for players, and had there been unlimited turns, then whoever played the most in the begining would be at the top of the leaderboards. So according to them they wanted it to be fair for everyone. But then they turn around and are offering deals to buy more turns for anyone who has a little cash to dish out. Any non idiot can read between the lines of those last two sentences and realize that the real reason the turns are so limited is because the developer figures he will make more money doing it his way then a user friendly way. But that still doesn't give him the right to be a giant hypocrite and mislead people just so they dont think hes the greedy SOB he is.
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It's a nice looking game, but asking people to pay money to grind random encounters in an rpg is a bit much even if it's micropayments. I can see myself maybe paying $5 for an optional endgame dungeon in a good flash rpg, this game wants you to pay for every breath your character takes, I'll probably forget it exists before I get out of the first dungeon.
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nice game. The turn system is to allow ppl to break from the game,not playing it all day long. Besides, the series itself is not supposed to be finished in a or two day. I do not buy tokens too and I think that this games requires fair amount of planning and strategy to enjoy it to the fullest.
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What part of "lack of a better word" don't you understand? Besides, I gave several more fitting words, so be sarcastic at those instead.
My life isn't idyllic, by the way. It's not a big deal to get pissy at poor business moves and stupid people trying to defend said business moves.
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wow major glitch... I disbanded my party so I could create a new one with my fourth character... and those 3 characters completely disappeared. I searched all through out the menu with no luck. Well that screwed my. I was already pissed off with the turn system. This just makes things worse. Definitely dropping my rating.
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Ripoff? That's amusing. Extreme hatred? I wish my life was so idyllic that I could get that angry about a game developer!