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I disagree with the notion that rogue is the weakest class because the reality is entirely opposite. You can consistently beat the game under 35 minutes with rogue while other class has much higher uncertainty. What's actually weak is the "stealth" stat. A lot of people don't understand the strength of dungeon sense and end up picking other weak talent also adds to the problem. I am going to post a short guide here for the class.
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Interesting how, in a game titled "Rogue Fable," the Rogue is the WORST character. Even with 25 sneak, advanced enemies detect me, even as I fill them with sleep darts and use the evade skill. Really, the only useful thing that the Rogue does is detect enemies.
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I didn't know until the game ended that the mission was to find the holy grail. You'd think that would be in a brief intro...
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I'm still encountering the occasional bug where the merchant won't open his window; in fact, it happened just once in the middle of talking to him; he wouldn't register any purchases. It's not consistent, and it's not predictable. ...also, Ice Mage when?
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Btw for people who often starve to death, a meat is guaranteed to appear at floor 4,8,12 while a merchant is guaranteed to appear in all later zones. The rogue class is indeed the most versatile class for speedrunner since he got dungeon sense which is arguably the strongest talent in game. You should level your character to level 3 and grab it before descending to the second zone of the game.
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The game is actually not so difficult and complicated compared to most of the old school rogue-like. In fact this is the second game I would introduce to my friend who want to taste the rogue-like genre, after they have beaten the enchanted cave 2 in a single run. I like how this game handles the class. However I found some of the terrain not so funny to navigate, especially the ice caves which has the annoying cold mechanic. I also dislike the randomness in level 5-12. Overall 4/5 seems to be a fitting score.
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I hate to love this game. I love to hate this game. I must press new game. I MUST PRESS NEW GAME. I MUST PRESS NEW GAME.
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This game does a great job of conveying how different adventuring playstyles work. The hyper-offense of the Barbarian plays very differently than the calculated outranging of the Ranger or the sneaky hit-and-run, go-up-and-down-stairs of the Rogue.
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Every once in a while when the game is playing I experience severe lag. The game goes really slow and my computer is burning up half it's resources (only 1 tab open). Probably the worst part about this is I'll move 2 tiles per 1 minute of timer going by. Getting the 45 or 60 minute achievement is impossible with all this lag. Do I have a software (flash) problem? Or is it the actual coding of the game that is causing this. It seems like a pixel game should experience no lag..
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GRRRRAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!! I was doing ridiculously well!!! I managed to get triple enchantment scrolls from one of those wishing wells and got it all on my staff, plus I had maxed out my fire attunment, plus I had a level two fire ring then I got teleported in the middle of this room filled with 8 bats and 2 golems and I couldnt manuver around them, they cornered me and killed me!
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OK, I finally won the game, but I have to admit it was fairly cheaty. I found a ring of lifesaving, and every time I used it, I immediately closed the window. It started me back at the last floor I'd left, so I was able to do the last few levels repeatedly until I got them right. Next: to do it again without cheating.
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As of today, I've begun experiencing a problem where the game loads, I choose a new character or hit Continue Save, and... then I get a blank screen and it never progresses. Anyone else encountering this?
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found the gauntlet again another good game this time i tried out archer class
max archery then max vitality and warrior skills and some foccus for tanky 100%ep archer
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Welp I'm done with this game. After countless attempts I finally reached the 16th floor. I killed an enemy blocking my way to the treasure and the game instantly froze.
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@PuzzleMage it's intentional, they're like, "elite" monsters. they're super dangerous when it's the maggots that spawn from the corpses.
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Occasionally I run into a monster that moves twice as fast as others of its kind. Is this expected variation or a bug?
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And I thought DCSS had ridiculous difficulty spiking. I also thought all the poison gas and all the maggots from those decaying corpses in the sewer level gave me enough cancer. Then I experienced the ice caverns and those STUPID GODDAMNED CRYSTAL BALLS, and then my entire body was littered with tumors. God bless the Necromancy book, the life drain bolt and the cannibalism skills are practically a must-have.
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i really appreciate how "roguelike" this is, plus lots of new fun twists. i got the hard badge with the Warrior first (Shrooms, Weapon Shield) plus Rogue (sneak attack), and Fire Mage (Fireball) talents.
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Caution: Altar of Trog (critical hits when under 1/3 of HP) does not seem to work with Inferno Sword! My current HPs are 22/78, and I score crits with my normal sword, but not with Inferno Sword. I switched several times between both weapons.
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@tf2spyspysap The rouge isn't that bad. The rouge skill tree is hard to sue by itself, but it combines well with the others, particularly the warrior and the barbarian. Less so with the mages, but it can still work.
the ranger on the other hand, is pure trash. The ranger skills do not combine well with anything, and you are also beholden to rinding extra ranged ammo. You can try to play the ranger as a ranged character, but it's hard. You can also try to use it as a melee character, but then you need another skill book.
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Necromancer is the most viable to get the badge. I was lucky and ended up with 20 fortitude, 20 necromancy and found every book. Very high skill for lvl 18. Toughness is a nice addition and the one that boosts defense. Then, the storm mage spell that freezes everyone for 5 turns. Poison cloud is perfect for nests ans towers. And leeching is of course great. And playing mage avoids the red mushrooms...
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I've tried playing this game three or four times and it has locked up every time. It seems that you can often cause the game to freeze if you're a fire mage and shoot a fire ball then click anywhere else before the fireball hits its target and/or before whatever you've shot finishes exploding.
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Ooh! A red mushroom! It's probably an item that can heal--
"Fire Mushroom - Dangerous mushrooms which explode with a burst of fire when stepped on."
Whoops
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Just the Rogue left to make it to the trophy. I have a few gripes about him though. For funsies I got my Rogue to 23 Stealth early on (fluked out by finding 15 skill points on level 2-3 + a robe), and average Melee. Even with maxed Stealth, monsters with low spot checks (Stone Golem 6%) instantly saw me (Except imps (5%) they're happy enough to ignore me). Teleporting into a room appears to be 100% noticing + death. I'm at the point where I can't use the Rogue as a Rogue and am instead relying on treasure drops to give me wizardry items.
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Needs WASD controls. Using the mouse just feels really clunky compared to how well-fitting the game could be with WASD controls and mouse to perform actions and inventory/skill management.
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vadhaghl: It's a bug. Sometimes the game just doesn't let you enhance certain equipment. Annoying, but nothing that can be done.
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I was playing a Warrior, and three times could not use a scroll of Enchantment on my Inferno Sword, or my Spear. They showed in the list of enchantable items, but clicking them had no effect. So I had to waste the scrolls on lower level equipment. From previous games I am pretty sure that enchanting those weapons used to work. Did anybody have the same problem?
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I was killed after an enemy spawned object (unspecified for spoiler prevention) attacked me. My death message reads "your level 6 character was killed by a blood in the the arcane tower." (yes, that is typo free, and no, a spot of blood on the ground did not attack me)
I didn't realize I was playing "drug lords and dragons". XP
All in all a very enjoyable, even addicting game. Just thought I'd comment with a funny occurence.
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I Love that OP Change of class. And was very ironic my way to win this time. I enter the last floor and I See thoe objrctive of that quest next to me. I have 2 options to end the game in the lame way and catch it now or explore the whole last flor before taking it i see the time is 58 mins and catch it inmediatly winin the under an hour achirvment.
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Finally. Dear God, I can let this curse go now. I figured my victory would be with a necromancer, but it turned out to be a warrior who found a storm staff. Electrical damage was at around +134% by the end.
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For the merchant problem: if he won't sell you stuff it's likely because you have too many items for your (inventory) side of his sell screen. Use up some consumables and projectiles, then try again.